I see a lot of people prefer the Montana Pitch blend for waterproofing leather archery products and was wondering if the paste or liquid works better and which is more user friendly ?
Thanks
Denny
Hey Denny,
I like the paste, though I have not tried the liquid.
Thanks Kenny !
Denny
Hey Denny!
I have used the paste to successfully salvage a shooting glove. Stuff is WONDERFUL! I haven't tried the liquid, though I have a bottle on the shelf.
BobW
Never tried the liquid. The paste works great on boots.
Denny,
Like everyone else, the paste is what I've used also with good luck. There is another brand called Obernaufs (sp?) that most of the high end boot shops around here recommend. I started using it a couple of years ago and really like it a lot. It is available in paste or liquid and again, the paste is all I use.
Ron
I use the past, I find the product is really good and so pleasant to smell.
Paste for me too. I use a small cloth and apply to a warm boot. after I am done, my hands are just great. no more chapped, dry skin.(for a few days)
Love the smell also.
Obernaufs(sp?)is good too.
Chuck
p.s
If you see me at kzoo, remind me to get some more pitch blend. Can't find it local and I am about out. Thanks
Have used the paste for at least 10yrs or more.
I have never used the liquid but hand rub in the paste and it liquidizes with body temps so it is virtually liquid when applied.
Also, Montana Pitch Blend is not a waterproofing. It is a leather conditioner and helps leather repel water. I don't know of anything that will make leather waterproof and you don't want it completely sealed because it has to breathe or it will rot.
I agree with Pat. Great for soft leather like a shooting glove. I used it on my leather boots too. But then after it soaked in for a few weeks I went back over with SnoPruf. Not nearly the sealer a heavy wax is, but good stuff all the same and used as a pre wax conditioner makes a lot of sense.
Paste :)
Is Sno Seal similar to Montana Pitch Blend? If not, what makes one better than the other, in your opinion.
I have a couple pair of leather, Gore-Tex boots that are in need of something. The leather is beginning to look dry and scuffed.
BP
I've used and been happy with the Montana Pitch Blend paste as well. Especially like it on my leather boots. With that said, after visiting with several outstanding saddle makers/leather workers I have started using Canola oil on my archery related leather goods. It's cheap, odorless, dries quickly,and lubricates well. The professionals tell you to save your bucks for something else. Canola oil is what they use. :wavey:
Thanks for all the info. guys! I think I'll get the paste.
Brian,
Sno seal is a Beeswax base waterproofing paste.
Denny
I use both. For leather that needs a really good conditioning, like it has been dried out or abused, I first apply the oil liberally. I think it penetrates deeper and faster to get the leather softened. After an overnight, I apply the paste for further conditioning and protection. Works for me.
Never tried the canola, but stands to reason that it would penetrate. For mud and snow, I would still want a beeswax based top dressing, though. I have some bear oil and beeswax paste that works also.
Montana Pitch Blend is all natural materials; mink oil, bees wax and pine pitch. I believe Sno-Seal has silicon in it and I have heard it blocks the pores and prevents the leather from breathing. I don't know this for sure but I have never used Sno-Seal.
I use both. The liquid works great if the leather is dried out and really needs "nourishment" (one time I used it to restore my son's baseball glove, which had been left outside in all kinds of weather for several months; it was good as new!). Once the leather is restored, I use the paste for waterproofing.
Paste but never tried the liquid
Don't know it for a fact, but I heard that sno -seal destroyed the stitching of someone's leatherwork and that it doesn't let the leather breath.
I do know that pitch blend is great stuff and has never hurt anything that I have applied it to in over 13 years of using it.
You really want to avoid anything with silicone in it, especially on leather goods.
Some folks swear by Bear Grease, although I don't use it since it has petroleum products in it and is made in Finland, I believe.
Bear Guard is made in Maine and is primarily Bear fat and bees wax. Works great on leather that you PLAN on getting wet.
Paste, been using it for quite some time now, great stuff! Don't care for the liquid, just my opinion.
Paste User here too!! Good Stuff, and Smells Good too! :archer:
Been using the paste for a long time with great results. As mentioned before, the paste liquifies when you rub it in. My first pair of Russell boots are going on 7 yrs old, and I'm sending them in to be resoled this winter (walked the original soles smooth) and Pitch Blend has kept this leather as new. I apply whenever it looks like it is drying out a bit or after hunting in really wet weather. Probably every 10 days to 2 weeks during hunting season.
Ryan
QuoteOriginally posted by Ray_G:
I use both. For leather that needs a really good conditioning, like it has been dried out or abused, I first apply the oil liberally. I think it penetrates deeper and faster to get the leather softened. After an overnight, I apply the paste for further conditioning and protection. Works for me.
You took the word right out of my mouth. I do exactly the same thing. It works great.
I don't like my leather goods softening too much and losing shape or stretching...
The mink oil in MT Pitch tends to do that due to the mink oil. I've been using another product, Australian Leather Dressing...harder, and doesn't soften the leather, fwiw.
The paste is great- been using it since it first came out - almost 30 years ago....
Shoot straight, Shinken
I used Pitch Blend before it even went on the market. Howie Fly invented the original formula that Paul Brunner started selling. They paid kids to gather pine pitch. Paul's brother Bill eventually took over the Pitch Blend business. Sno-Seal has petroleum distillates in it. Big difference. You could eat Pitch Blend, although eating mink oil is probably not a good idea. Where the hell does mink oil come from anyway? I put a mink in a vise once and got no oil whatsoever out of it....
By the way, Pitch Blend works GREAT on fabric treestand seats that squeak. I used to hunt out of Climax hang-ons a lot. The fold up fabric seats always squeaked in cold weather. IO tried everything to quiet them. Nothing worked until I put Pitch Blend across the metal bar on the folding seat where it touches the fabric. Your seat will never squeak again.
QuoteOriginally posted by Gene Wensel:
Where the hell does mink oil come from anyway? I put a mink in a vise once and got no oil whatsoever out of it....
:knothead: OMGosh... thanks for the AM roll on the floor, Gene!
First buck mink I caught at Freezout Lake up on the MT highline, I tried to skin in my kitchen...I knew the tail had to be perfect and was nervous as I split and tried to "pull" it...must've squeezed the haunches just a bit too hard in my anxiety and had buck mink gland spray all over the bloody kitchen... Nothing 4 hrs of MT winter winds blowing through the place didn't fix.
QuoteOriginally posted by Gene Wensel:
Where the hell does mink oil come from anyway? I put a mink in a vise once and got no oil whatsoever out of it....
:) Thanks for that one, Gene!
I've tried mink oil, snoseal, and the montana pitch blend works the best IMHO! Jason
Yep, Pitch blend! Works great on the squeaks in the quiver straps. I used it once on a ash selfbow. Gave it a nice golden color!
Gene, was the mink alive or dead? I think it only works when alive :D
I have been using Schnee's lately just because it's odor free. Don't know what it's made of, but it works well. I will sure try Bill Turner's Canola Oil. Thanks for the tip Bill.
I was told by a leather dealer to use kiwi neutral shoe polish and protects and nourish the leather. After I'm done do some small pieces of leather work I seal it with this and it doesn't soften the leather it makes it a little darker but I would like to try the pitch blend.
Been using the paste. The pine smell is natural also.
Were can you get Pitch blend have heard of it but do not know were to get it at
The oil is good for conditioning, but less good for waterproofing due to the lower wax content. Personally, I like Sno Seal better for leather boots--doesn't soften them up so much.
Onebwhtr, 3 Rivers Archery has it.