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Title: Carp Shooters
Post by: oxnam on January 14, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
Some of you guys shoot a ton of carp.  I have seen pictures and videos of guys shooting a lot of fish.

What do you do with them?  I assume they are not being consumed, so I was curious how they dispose of so many, especially after some of the contest shoots.
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: KHALVERSON on January 14, 2010, 07:40:00 PM
i personally bury them
they grow great tomatoes and roses
just bury them deep enough that you dont hit them with the rototiller
god what a smell
kevin
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on January 14, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
Give them to the local Russians.  They eat them and love it when you give them over.
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Post by: chad graham on January 14, 2010, 08:03:00 PM
i put them in the ground next to my neighbors roses and he loves it! i shot 34 fish this year.
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Post by: Buckeye Trad Hunter on January 14, 2010, 08:31:00 PM
Compost, turtle or catfish bait, bait for coon traps if permitted, and yes some people say if properly cleaned that they are some of the best fish you can eat, although I've never ate them myself.
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Post by: rp65 on January 14, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
When I was in my early teens my dad smoked them and they where very good, but only in the spring before the water gets to warm. We also thew them in the pen for the hogs to eat and boy did they love eating them. I have not shot carp for many years,but I think I should try it again. It's a blast!
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Post by: LC on January 14, 2010, 08:59:00 PM
Well I gotta be totally honest here! Carp are NON NATIVE SPECIES. In simpler terms they was brought here and introduced and just like similar species they can and will overtake the native species in a short time. If with a open mind you investigate what happens to native species when they are introduced you will look at them more like a cancer! I don't take killing ANYTHING lightly but I will readily kill gypsy moths, flies, mosquitos, rats, mice, starlings, termites, slugs, aphidis, potato bugs, etc when deemed necessary. You get my point. With that said also they are bottom feeders. That means they suck thru the  silt of the bottom of ponds and rivers where most all the contaniments are. Most are full of mercury etc. I use to bring them home and bury in my garden till I realized the local DNR recommended no more than one carp a year for consumtion. Lets just say I quit burying them in my garden or quit giving to local pig farmers.

So now your left with the decision, let them run rampant and destory all native fish and live forever or try to do my best to control them and have a blast doing it! Well theres my answer! I practice catch and release. Slice the air sac and let them go back. I've never went back the  next day or actually a few hours later and I found a single fish. Usually within one pass a snapper has them or a raccon.Actually I feel sorry for both of them knowing the results of consumption.
I will add there was a local stream that was TOTALLY taken over by carp in our county. My trad brothers with a new found passion of bowfishing cleaned up that stream. They said it couldn't be done but lets just say after four years there was no more shootable carp in that stream. The locals never knew why but the game speices, smallmouth, large mouth, drum, muskie etc flourished. They loved it. Life was good! Then this year for reasons still not clear the water became polluted again, green alagae, and KILLED EVERY living thing in it..... EXCEPT some fry carp. Local folks were furious and rightfully so. They said all we had left was carp! Some was even quoted in the local paper saying this stream use to be nothing but carp but for the last several years  was full of game fish! Go figure! They eventually traced  this years fish kill back to mine runoff, gas well brine dumping all within legal limits. The bottom line they never cared about the river till some local trad bowfishermen cleaned it up and they never even realized it! True story!
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: oxnam on January 14, 2010, 09:14:00 PM
I am definately not concerned about the wasting of carp and they have proven to be quite invasive.  I have used them in the garden, but I sure don't have enough tomatoe plants for that.  

I have heard of the cutting the air sack, and I think I heard someone say that a fish and game officer suggested it.  Does that keep them from floating up when they are dead?  Where do you cut?
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Post by: yekrut on January 14, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
I smoke them and eat'em , just cut out the mud line and get after em, there good if cleaned properly. we get them in the spring.
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Post by: LC on January 14, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
The air sack is a rather large white sack located close behing the the gills and a knife on a dead fish will expose it quickly.
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Post by: LoweBow on January 14, 2010, 09:23:00 PM
LC...I'm right there w/ you, especially w/ the Bighead and Silver carp that we shoot each summer.
I shoot tons...and not exagerating...literally tons of fish each summer.  Live for bowfishing!  Used to have a guy years ago that would take the commons and buffs, but when he passed I just began heaving them into a sinkhole here on our farm.  I have no remorse and the critters get a great meal outta them.  We eat the cats, paddlefish, some buffs, and my boy loves the gar.  Not saying we eat all the buffs and gar, but buffalo ribs and longnose backstaps are good eatin.
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Post by: Earthdog on January 14, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
In New Zealand it is illegal to remove them from the area,most guys just leave them on the bank,but I bury them.

The reason your not allowed to remove them is that they are a noxious pest and not removing them is just one step in helping top stop the spread.
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Post by: tradsniper on January 14, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
There is a wild life science center near were i usually go bowfishing so I just take them there and they feed them to the bears
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Post by: legends1 on January 14, 2010, 11:10:00 PM
Depends on where we hunt them.Some locations we go there are people who want them.They say there realy good to eat.Other than the bones they maybe.Other spots we dig a pit.
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Post by: Mechslasher on January 14, 2010, 11:17:00 PM
fertilizer for deer foodplots
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Post by: finkm1 on January 15, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
I shot a few last spring and buried them in the garden, but a local family of skunks kept digging them up. The rest of the carp I shot, I disposed of in some tall weeds away from the river. They need to be harvested and the critters will eat them, so I don't see it as a waste.
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Post by: Roy Steele on January 15, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
When I was younger the old guy I knew either dipping and later on summer when we carp fished he kept them all and cold packed them.Although I havn't  eaten it in a long time I've eaten it quite a few times.While along the river camping,dipping,fishing etc. and I liked it.
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: John Nail on January 15, 2010, 05:10:00 PM
send them to Gitmo. Good enough for teriorists.
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: oxnam on January 15, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by John Nail:
send them to Gitmo. Good enough for teriorists.
Too bad we don't treat terrorists like terrorists  :banghead:
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Post by: Ranger Rick on January 15, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
i bury them beneath bushes and flower beds. It makes good fertilizer and the contaminants dont get into the food chain. I also know a local fox farm(nonlonger in business) used to take them.
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Post by: Autumnarcher on January 16, 2010, 09:10:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by John Nail:
send them to Gitmo. Good enough for teriorists.
I think we should getto shoot them cowards we got caged up in Gitmo with a carp arrow too, and feed them to the carp. Talk about an invasive species! I'd rate them stinkin carp way higher than some flea infested Al Quaida piece of human garbage.
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Post by: knd2970 on January 16, 2010, 09:41:00 AM
I have a farmer that lets me throw them in his speader. He mix's them up with the manure. Shoots them in the field's.
Also a great way to obtain hunting rights on a farm.
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Post by: kybowman on January 16, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
Hey Mike,  I sure hope that sinkhole is downwind of the house!!!!  Because I know you are not exagerating the ammount of carp you actually shoot each year. You are a one man invasive species erradicator!!!!!!!!
8^p pee ewwww  haha
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: Mike/Columbia Basin on January 16, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
I would suggest that whatever you do with the carp just make sure that you DO NOT leave them on the bank where shot. That ruins the carp shooting for the next guy. There is a local stream that gets hit pretty heavy here and it stinks bad after few days.
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Post by: sweeney3 on January 16, 2010, 10:47:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by John Nail:
send them to Gitmo. Good enough for teriorists.
:clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:   :clapper  :clapper:
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Post by: sweeney3 on January 16, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
And oxnam's and autumarcher's too.  I missed those the first time through!
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Post by: kybowman on January 16, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
Maybe we can bring the Gitmo guys to Mikes sinkhole!!    :goldtooth:
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Post by: Possum2 on January 16, 2010, 02:07:00 PM
I'm not a animal activis by all means I've taken my share, but why would you shoot something and then just bury. Gar, common carp, bighead, silvers and asian carp are all consumable and very tasty if fixed right. Specially when they are smoked! Gar you can boil it and dip it in butter and garlic and I swear your eating lobster!!!
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Post by: Gehrke145 on January 16, 2010, 02:52:00 PM
Talk to local farmers, when I lived in WI we would shoot thousands a year.  You can only get so many under the garden lol.
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Post by: LoweBow on January 16, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
Possom2...like I said...we eat plenty, but there I could feed my county w/ the amount of fish we shoot in a summer.  I will not allow guys to shoot paddlefish if they do not intend to eat them.  Most all have figured out how delicious these are.  We shot 47 bigheads one night on the Ohio river....have shot more on the Tennessee, but of these 47 most were over 40# w/ 28 over 50#.  Yes...over 1 ton of fish.  My boat is a 2070, but won't carry that poundage....nor will my tandem axle trailer w/out taring something up.
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: Stone Knife on January 16, 2010, 05:43:00 PM
I don't eat them myself, but I have given many away to people that do. I use them in the flower garden or for coon bait during trapping season.
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Post by: Izzy on January 16, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
After I slap one of my cousins across his mug with the carp tails I toss them in the weeds on an island and they get eaten by coons, turtles,crows,guls and eagles.If not on the island I just put them back into the river.The slapping part is a custom my 2 cousins and I started a while back.The first man to shoot a carp gets to slap the other 2 fools and keeps doing so until each man gets a fish.If you miss alot you will keep getting carp slapped again and again and again.I hate when Im the fool getting slapped but when Im not I laugh til I cant breathe.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: pintail_drake2004 on January 16, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
we dont eat them, but there is a certain "group" of people fishing the area who will buy them everytime. The ones we do keep we cut up into 1" squares and use them for trapping coons. We can get about 150-200 sets out of a decent sized carp.
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: Mark Kronyak on January 18, 2010, 02:54:00 AM
I get them mounted...
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Post by: Mark Kronyak on January 18, 2010, 02:55:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Shug/HPIM0523.jpg)
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Post by: Mark Kronyak on January 18, 2010, 02:56:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Shug/HPIM0529.jpg)
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Post by: Mark Kronyak on January 18, 2010, 03:00:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Shug/DCP_0003.jpg)
Title: Re: Carp Shooters
Post by: oxnam on January 18, 2010, 04:35:00 PM
Wow Mark, I didn't realize that anyone would ever have them mounted.  Looks like some big carp.
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Post by: bretto on January 18, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
Wow Mark, do you know the weight of those fish? Great looking mounts also.
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Post by: Mark Kronyak on January 18, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
The bottom pic on the wall with the rocks was a 59# 12 oz Grass Carp  the only reason i mounted it was because it was a new state record.. I was sure I would never mount another... well the next year I shot a 65# even grassie.  It was lil over 5 pounds bigger than the one I shot the year before... making it a new state record grass carp..

More incredable... a week after I took the second Grass carp I took a Common Carp ( middle pic) that weighed 43# 14 oz. that fish was 1# 13 oz bigger than the previous state record that stood for 21 years... Lucky?... I'll say.

But I promise I'll never get another carp mounted..maybe