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I was reading in Guru's thread that Biggie said the hog just didn't look right so they didn't want to eat it. My brother once shot a deer with his recurve that had a large pocket of pus on it's brisket. When he was skinning it out it went all over the ground. It looked like about a quart at least. The fish and game said it was probably a snake bite.It got me wondering how many animals out there are shot but end up not being eaten because of something being wrong with them. I know there are a few out west with chronic wasting disease. Gary

squirls or rabbits that have worms.  and does a cotton mouth count?

I shot a mangy fox once, but I wasn't planning to eat him anyway.   :biglaugh:

nothing I would eat but shot yote that had a bad case of mange. almost completely bald

Shot a deer once that had brain worms.  
I fed the coyotes

Shot a red deer hind,an when I cut her open she didn't seem to have as much blood in her as I expected.

Then I started skinning her an noticed she had light pink flesh instead of it being blood red.

She stayed there,I think she was due to die anyway.

Hi I am new to the forum but have been checking it for awile now. I shot a turkey 2 years ago that you may all find interesting.

In Oct fo 07 I was out doing some day time scouting. I came across this Jake that was trying to get away but could not. After a further look, I noticed the turmor looking things all over its head and some on it's feet. I had a tag in my pocket so decided to put it out of his misery. Not knowing what was wrong with this bird we got a-hold of the dnr. I guess this bird has the avian pox. I donated the turkey to the WDNR for study.

The jake wieght only 8 lbs had no spurs and a whopping 9.5 " beard.
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I saw a couple pictures of a turkey somewere that had legs that looked like that. I shot a doe once that had huge warts all over her

Yes, I shot an elk once that had a pus pocket onit's left foreleg. Every bit of the meat had a bad (sewer?) taste to it (what we tried), it all got thown away.  

Last year my buddy and I killed about 500 pounds of carp.  Does that count?  We fed the coyotes and coons.

Brett

I shot a buck that was in velvet that had large lumpy warts on it. Fish and Game checked it out and was interested in the disease but said the meat was OK to eat.
I had a friend who had to shoot a black bear that charged him and his son while they were duck hunting. Turned out to have a broken jaw and was starving.

yes shot a whitetail Buck(in Rut) one year and upon gutting and skinning found many punture holes in Deer(from fighting) he was black and blue  and green cheaked liver and well it was green as well so Coyote food don't think he would have lived as he was in poor shape,, I allways cheak liver out make sure it has no spots and looks normal the liver will tell you as will color of meat and smell if it smells bad it probably is !  :thumbsup:

I shot a possum that charged me three times in a farm grove. It seemed like it was drunk. I banged it in the head with a shoot away blunt, which I wiped down with mud and grass and then covered the possum with a piece  metal and put a chunk of concrete on top of that. The poor thing must have been rabid.

I shot a rabbit that had some sort of grub looking thing come out it's butt. I too fed the yotes. Still gives me the yucks.    :p

Another was a doe I had to come back the nest day for. It ended up being warm that night and when I found her she was bloated with flies everywhere. I tried to field dress her but the smell almost made me pass out. She stayed.

I was walking along a river a few winters ago and spotted a doe bedded in the high grass on an island and she was looking at me. I kept walking a few 100 yards past her and crossed to the other side to sneak up on her. When I got about 15 yards away from where I though she was, she stood up and I zipped an arrow through her. Out into the river she jumped and died. I walked back up river to the shallow spot to cross as she was floating away. She hung up on a sandbar a 1/4 mile down river and I waded out to drag her in grabbing an ear. It came off in my hand. I grabbed a leg, dragged her up on the sand bar and the poor thing was in bad shape. Looked like the Yotes had attacked her and she swam the river to get away. Did her a favor I think and feed the Eagles

One time, a corsican ram down in Texas.  He smelled worse than the average sheep, and when we caped him, found his hair pulled out in clumps and his hide & good part up the hair covered in a stinky, gritty, greasy ooze.

Both the guide & taxidermist said they had no idea what it was but both recommended against eating him or messing with the cape. Ended up doing a European and the carcass went on the burn pile.

To this day I've never seen anything like it. On the hoof and to all outward appearances before I arrowed him he looked healthy, but I wouldn't have eaten a bite of his backstraps on a bet.

I shot a small buck that was wondering all over and was wobbleing. When I opened him up the lungs had golf ball size white lumps. I called the dnr Biologist and emailed pics. He said he thought it was ok but If I didn't want it don't check it in and he wanted the lungs to look at. The coyotes got it before I could do anything else.

I shot this deer on a sunday evening so the Biologist was not available until the next morning and we had a caution in our hunting guide about lung disease, and TB and to leave the deer alone.

Dave

Yep back in the mid 80's I was hunting on Fort Bragg and killed a nice 8pt that had a bullet hole in his front leg and when we peeled the hide off the glands had infection in them so it was disposed of.
Terry

Shot a sow with my longbow, I thought she had been sucked down by a litter....the arrow zipped through her, she fell over dead as a mackeral. The more I examined her, the more obvious it was, she was sick. I hate leaving anything for the coyotes, but I did this time.

My son in law killed a 8 pointer with blue tounge. DNR man said not to eat him.

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7 point killed in suburb of Cleveland, had been running around the property that I hunt for 2 years like this and was chasing a doe when I killed him.  When we field dressed the buck the meat had a stronger than normal smell to it and their was puss throughout the cavity so we called the game warden and he had us discard the meat.

Killed a turkey with a black mass in it's breast. I assumed it was cancer.

Saw a deer with green puss in it's hind quarters, and what looked like bites. I guessed coyotes were after it.

I shot a buck back in 1987 while in college and when i got to him i could smell guts really bad.

When i dressed him i found 22 rifle shells all in him.

He had been shot in the stomach and in other places but that stomach wound was terrible.

I cant believe he was still able to get around.

I had one bad - really bad - tasting buck that I tossed out once.  I have no idea why but I had eaten enough venison to know that something was not right.  

Also, for folks that shoot multiple deer in a year - it is a good idea to mark the meat packages somehow before before they go into the freezer of which deer the package came from just in case what happened to me happens to you.

That way you don't have to toss out all you packages.

several years back i killed a squirrel, and when i cut open his body cavity all his guts (heart and lungs included) were neon yellow, and it was pretty rank. so i put a big rock on him...

good idea lt-m-grow, never thought of it......

I have a friend that shot an old elk.  It hair was slipping and smelled gross.  The packing plant would not let it in and the DOW issued him a second license...

I shot a button buck a few years ago that I found injured without functional back legs.  After I shot it I noticed it was foaming at the mouth.  I couldn't find physical damage so then I was not sure if it was injured or sick so I didn't eat it.  

I shot an injured doe the year before that.  She had a bad leg.  Once I got her skinned out I found the one hind quarter was basically skin and bone.  I had to toss that whole quarter away because there was hardly any meat on it at all.  The rest of her was very strong tasting and really tough.  Fortunately I mark all my meat for the year and deer number so I just tossed it out.  I have a hard time not shooting an injured deer, but next time I find major muscle waste from an old wound I am not sure I will go to the trouble to process it unless I cut out some and try it first.

This year my hunt bud shot a 6 point with bad hindquarter He said it was diseased and cut off around the entire quarter & discarded it. He ate the rest. He said the hide was mangy & full of tumors.

Killed a nut dragging boar hog a few years back so nasty I couldn't eat it. BBQ'd it then took it to work where it disappeared. I cringed watching folks eat it.

Idaho, 1975.  Heard a shot where my friend was and drove down the grownover logging trail to pick him up.  Big buck was laying flat in the road.  As I drove up, it raised it's head and then put it back down.  I got the gun out and killed it w/shot to neck.

Turned out buddy hadn't shot it and you could see the rib structure thru the hide.  Gutted it and you could see the pellets in the colon.
Basically just skin and bone. I left it.

Called the game warden, Left message about what I had done and where it was.  I was taking wildlife course at the U of ID and knew they would be interested.

Next day he showed up at camp with the deer and wanted me to tag it.  Ugly confrontation.  I told him to write me up if he thought he could get a jury to convict me of anything.  He backed off, started to drive away, stopped and backed up to ask me if I wanted the 5x6 rack.  I told him to get out of my camp.

About 6 months later I heard he got fired. Guess I wasn't the only person he got crosswise with.

He never turned the deer over to the University.

I recovered a buck that I had hit a little far back and we put it to bed at dark.  We came back the next day and it was dead, dressed it and tagged it.  When I butchered it the meat stunk so bad it almost gagged me.  Smelled like a barnyard.  The meat smelled the same way.  I threw it all away.

It's getting near dinner time and I'm losing my appetite reading this thread.

I have shot rabbits and squirrels that have white spots on their livers.....when I kill one like that it goes to the coyotes......

This year I shot a buck found some kinda worm up in the hind quarter in the back leg of it and my ag. teacher found the same kind of worm in one of his deer took it into the biology teacher and he couldent identify it.

My buddy killed a doe a couple years ago.When we were skinning her she smelled really foul.There was large pockets of puss all along her back from some sort of injury.She became coyote food.

lt-m-grow  often if you turn your deer over to a game processor you will not get your deer meat back. Some processors will cut YOUR deer up and give you back YOUR deer meat.
Some though just weigh the deer; and give you the percent of meat normally you would get from a deer that size. They do not care if you get your deer or not.
They will then take any left over meat and toss it into a 55 gallon drum. That drum goes to the sausage making company; and if you ordered sausage- it is from every ones deer or elk.
 A good game processor will take your deer; cut it up - take the meat that is left over; and make hamburger or sausage from it and it alone.
These guys are worth their weight in gold.

It is why I do all my own processing.

I shot a deer once that had mange; and I was given another tag.

With rabbits ; a liver that is yellowish and sickly looking indicates disease- toss it. But white spots are fat deposits - if the liver is red and healthy looking; the white spots are not an indicator of disease in and of themselves.
Probably a fatter - healthier rabbit; and one that will be great in the pan.

Cooking a diseased rabbit will kill the disease; you are in most danger when cleaning it. Its really best to take some rubber gloves and check the liver before adding it to the bag. Don't get the disease off a glove by using it over and over- just use it once and put it in a plastic bag to dispose of it later properly.

Infections usually will make the whole animal unpalatable.

Good to see we take out the weak and diseased from the herd.

Wow knd2970 that is a gross looking turkey. I wouldn't eat it either. I shot a small buck one time that had a weird growth in it's heart. The growth partially blocked the blood flow. The deer acted real slow when I was watching it before I shot it. Gary

My first duck ,well I thought it was a duck turned out to be a coot.It had some green crap coming out of its mouth.Nothing but fertilizer now,that was when I was 16 yo.   :knothead:

About ten years ago I shot a decent seven point that had a infection or "Gang green" It had some infection in the loins and hind quarters. It had previously been shot with a .22 below the ear. I put my tag on the deer and called the Game Commission. I had a Warden come out and offer another tag, I declined and was happy to have harvested the buck and also to put him out of his soon due misery. Big Ed

Shot a cow elk in Colorado in the late 80s.  We quartered her and packed her out with horses.  When we got back to my buddy's ranch, we hung the quarters in a run-in shed and noticed a rather large lump on one of her shoulders.  Externally, it did'nt look like anything nasty.  I made the butcher aware of it.  He said it seemed to be some kind of tumor.  To be on the safe side, he ended up throwing most of the shoulder away. The rest of the meat was fine....thankfully.

didnt shad kill a nasty turkey?

I shot an 8 point a few years back that wasn't acting right. Once I found him and rolled him over to dress I counld see his neck skin still moving. He had been fighting and took a horn thru the neck and the blow flys had gotten in there and layed eggs. The poor guy was being eaten alive by maggots. I still think about that one sometimes....yaahhk!
SL

Shot a small basket racked buck a few years ago, he let me stalk within 10-15 yds of him, shot a magnus 4-blade through both lungs and he just stood there. I walked away and watched him for about 5 minutes, then he got wobbly and fell down, waited a couple of more minutes and walked up and grabbed his antler, it and a chunk of skull popped off in my hand. puss leaked out around the pedicle, looked like he had been hit by a car, and had two other broadhead wounds, deer smelled awful, the carcass was left for the animals. Amazing how tuff these animals are.

My friend was telling me a story about his dad hitting a doe on the road.  They called the cops, got the permit and took it home.  While gutting it in the barn, out came the fetal fawn.  They were both pretty disgusted.  Anyway, they processed the doe and put the meat in the freezer, but anytime they considered eating some of the venison, the image of the fawn dropping out made them decide not to.  They eventually just threw the meat out knowing that they were not gonna eat it.