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A sore back will keep me from climbing this Saturday so I will be in a treeseat on the ground.I'm not confident in this so I need some advise from you groundpounders. Also some pics of your set ups would help. I probably wont be building any blinds just using natural cover such as blowdowns.Any other advice? Thanks,Bucky.

be sure to have a good back drop.  be very still.  i hardly ever make a blind. i like to set up on trails where they have to walk past me.  i you have never hunted off the ground get ready for a rush if  one gets close.

Bucky - I've killed most of my deer with both bow and gun from the ground. It is WAY more simple than the tree stand mfrs would have you believe.

#1 - wind in your face (or at least not blowing toward the deer's location)

#2 - broken outlines (brush behind you is more important than in front, both is better)

#3 - even less movement than in a tree stand (that's where the biggest advantage is IMO)

#4 - no eye contact with the deer (maybe it's me, but I think they sense that somehow)

#5 - pick a spot (I forgot this one in October!)

#6, 7, 8 - Have fun, gut deer, eat backstraps!

Let them pass before shooting.  I learned that lesson (again) recently.

Pick a tree wider than you are to lean your back against...it will keep you hidden...sit as still as possible. Sweep your eyes side to side frequesntly...your head not so much. Keep the wind in your favor ...good luck

Get one of the army booney hats and stick some vegetation around the brim.  Breaks up the round dome predator look our heads give.

shaggy suit.  Keep movement to a minumum.

i usually try to find a blow down and sit in the top.But  if the wind is in your favor and your still your chances are pretty good

Ditto to all the above, with addition. Your bow it's self can be games biggest clue your there. Use a bow sock and keep the bow as close to full draw position as comfortable. Draw with as little side to side motion as possible. Most herbivores have poor depth perception but can easily pick up motion from side to side.

Stick to passive hunting using natural cover till you get the hang of it....then get really sneaky!

Good advise above. It's like picking a treestand site only with more options.  Another option might be to stillhunt (slow slow slow).  

This time of year, I see fewer deer moving around of their own volition so I get the impression that going to them seems to be the way to play.  If nothing else, you get some late season scouting in and perhaps some additional notions of where to set up next fall.

If you're going to be sitting, a piece of something between your 3rd point of contact and what you'll be sitting on is nice to have.  Could be as simple as a piece of plastic, or a store bought foam thing.  

Clear out any branches / leaves / whatever that are in your immediate area.  Noise is defiantly something you want to avoid.  Before you settle in, draw from as many angles you can think of, that'll show you what needs to be removed.  A pair of pruning clippers make this process much easier.

Can't emphasize enough to have a comfortable seat to sit in otherwise you'll be "twitching" all the time trying to get comfortable. A couple of bow hooks for your bow, clippers to clear small branches and shooting lanes, a small garden hand rake to clear the ground around your stool/chair, good face and hand camo  and you should be good to go.

I have always hunted from the ground. If you are familiar with the area you should( if the wind cooperates) be able to find a good natural blind My 2 all time favorites were a a small horshoe shaped brushpile with a bush growing just in front of it and a leleand -type cypress that had been struck by lighting that left an open wedge on one side. other than the wind the two biggies are absolute silence and absolute stillness. A good book on this is "Voice of the Hunting Gods" by Roy Rivett.

*sit on the down wind side of the trail so they dont wind u

*break up ur outline

*make sure ur comfortable (the more u are the less u will fidgit and move

*absolutely DO NOT make eye contact somehow they pick it up or sense it

*wait till they pass or look away to shoot

*enjoy it close encounters on the ground are one of the greatest rushes u can get!

There is some great advice from everyone. The only thing I would suggest would be if still hunting spend as much time behind your optics as walking. It will amaze you on how many times you can spot a leg,horn,or other small part of an animal. Keep wind in face walk real slow. When you think your walking slow enough then slow down more and glass more. Good luck.

Hopefully Charlie Lamb,or John3 will jump on in.   :pray:

thanks everybody.one thing i'll be hunting some thick pines with some small hardwood openings. i could sit in the dark pines and watch the openings. anybody have any pics of their set ups? one thing i lack is confidence from the ground.i have to get over thinking you can just shoot a deer from a treestand.

The wind will be your biggest enemy if it is swirly.  

Make sure you wear a face mask or paint and gloves.

Check with your doctor before going because being 5 yards from deer on the ground will cause heart palpitations and shallow breathing.

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Here you go George. This was a quick setup I used to take a spike running a ridge along the AT. As you can see you don't need much cover. Just a matter of following basic hunting rules and staying out of the "line of sight" Also I like to sit as low as I can get away with. The higher up you sit the more critical concealing movement becomes. So try to sit as low as you can and still shoot comfortably.

Good luck buddy, hopefully we'll be able to hang out again soon.

Here's a pic I took from one of my spots with my phone this year.  Unfortunately, this was the Monday AM after PA archery closed this year (was out hunting turkey; killed a bird from this same spot last year.)  

Perfect wind, it was blowing from my front directly to my rear.  This buck was a pretty decent 8pt; he crossed half again as close to me on his way in to tend a scrape just off to the right of the pic, all told he spent 10 minutes or so inside shooting range.  The woodline behind him is about 18 yards in front of me.  

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awesome pics!i'm getting confident now.

All the above advice is great, I use a Double Chair I have when I hunt the ground. I try and use as much natural cover as possible and cut shooting holes. The picture shows me turkey hunting but I use the same location for deer hunting when the wind is right.

i have a real good treeseat and like deadsmple said i'll keep it low.

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If you plan on making a brush blind I'll give you some advice.  

I would suggest you set up in an area where you know exactly where the animals are moving and adjust wind etc.

Be able to see whatever it is you are shooting in TWO small spots.  I usually have a shooting hole about a foot in diameter and I clear a small (very small) amount of brush away so I can see another spot on the trail.  It might be good to do it on both sides of you so you can see whats coming.

As previously stated, make sure you have a good back drop and only move your eyes.  If you think you hear somthing behind you, don't turn around.  It's probably already suspecting something if there is any wind.

Keep your bow in an easy access spot as you would in any tree stand.  

Tell us the story about how you saw 'em flutter their eyelashes at you!

Good luck!

be on the ground in the morning.this will be a new game for me.