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Title: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: BowHuntingFool on January 12, 2010, 11:32:00 PM
I shoot CX Heritage 150's, I recently trimmed up and footed some of the old busted ones with 1 inch pieces of 2216's and use them for rabbits, small game and stump shooting. I really like this idea and they turned out excellent! I was wondering if any of you guys do this with your other arrows, your big game arrows. Would their be a problem with penetration or any other problems I should be aware of?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: George D. Stout on January 12, 2010, 11:40:00 PM
I usually foot the bill for things around here 8^).
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: Grayseas on January 13, 2010, 08:31:00 AM
This is a good question, I am looking forward to hearing the responses.
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: L82HUNT on January 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
I foot all my hunting arrows now, Easton Axis Nano  with a 1" piece of 2018.  I shoot thru quite a few deer this year and good bull elk.  I dont think penetration is really a problum since the biggest diameter is 20/64".
 The only problum is the footing like to tear up 3-D animals a little more, but well worth it.
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: vermonster13 on January 13, 2010, 08:51:00 AM
Bevel the edges of the footing and the target problem will be very minor. I foot my axis and a few other carbons, the durability gain is enormous.
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: Intuit on January 13, 2010, 09:56:00 AM
I have footed some Beaman 340's with 2117 shafts. I used the carbon insert with a 3/4" 8-32 allen cap screw installed, then slipped the aluminum shaft and insert over this. Gave me 270 grns. up front with Zwickey broadhead.

As I like to shoot off a T-300 rest, I fiddled with the length of the aluminum piece until I could feel it bump the rest at full draw. Kind of like a silent clicker for a draw check.

Dave is right, just taper the back of the aluminum piece before you install it and target removal is not a problem, in fact the carbons pull easier from foam because of the larger diameter of the aluminum. - John
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: ron snowaert on January 13, 2010, 10:08:00 AM
I just recieved some blemished shafts from Big Jim very happy with them, they are a little light so I added 3 inches of 2117, fits just right also added about 150 grains of threaded rod, I think it was 1/4 inch inside the shafts just behind the inserts. The final arrow weight is 575 grains. Very happy with the final arrow weight and flight are perfect
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: T Folts on January 13, 2010, 10:20:00 AM
Anybody want to do a carbon arrow footing build along to teach some of us?

Terry
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Post by: kat on January 13, 2010, 10:30:00 AM
I foot all of my CE arrows, at both ends. 1.5" up front and .5" at the nock end. I leave my arrows full length, and add 235 gr. up front counting the footing.  This helps to weaken up the spine, and get good arrow flight.
Like Vermonster 13, I taper the ends, so they don't catch in the targets.
This makes them as close to bullet proof as you can get.
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: L82HUNT on January 13, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by T Folts:
Anybody want to do a carbon arrow footing build along to teach some of us?

Terry
Hope this is what your looking for.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=074690#000000
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: Friends call me Pac on January 13, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by L82HUNT:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by T Folts:
Anybody want to do a carbon arrow footing build along to teach some of us?

Terry
Hope this is what your looking for.

 http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=074690#000000  [/b]
I bet I have referenced my videos about footing carbons about a dz times now.  Mods can it be placed in the how to section?
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: T Folts on January 13, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
I saw that but I can't view the video, I'll try on a different computer. Also Whats the difference between outside and inside footing. My main reason for footing is for shaft durability, I break alot of carbons for some reason. Plus I need to repair some that have the insert shoved in so those will be external footings and used for rabbits and tree rats.
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: BowHuntingFool on January 13, 2010, 11:23:00 AM
T Folts, thats exactly why I did what I did, my inserts were shoved into the arrow and split them. I cut an inch or so off, slid on the aluminum footing then installed the insert. After that set up I glued the footing uptight to the insert! very easy to do, I followed Pacs video!
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: T Folts on January 13, 2010, 08:25:00 PM
I have a 2213 and it seems to tight. Is the 2213 just a thinner wall?
Title: Re: Footing carbon arrow question...
Post by: ishoot4thrills on January 13, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
I chamfer the edge of the footing just a bit so to make them easier to remove from targets. I use footing on all my carbon arrows, no matter what I shoot with them:

 (http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Broadheads003.jpg)

Results:

 (http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/2009BowKill-doe007.jpg)

 (http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/2009BowKill-doe008.jpg)