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Title: is 40# enough?
Post by: bornagainbowhunter on January 11, 2010, 05:58:00 PM
My Dad is having trouble drawing a 50# Pearson that I bought him for Christmas.  I am going to buy him a 40#er.  Will that actually be enough weight to hunt with.  He bowhunts mainly for whitetail.
I am sure that it will be fine for bunnys or squirrels. But deer?
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: TxAg on January 11, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
yes
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Post by: Ray Hammond on January 11, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
yes
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: James on laptop on January 11, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
It will depend on your Dads hunting and shooting ability like with any other weight bow.The bow will do the job just fine if your Dad does his.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Buckeye Trad Hunter on January 11, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
40# is plenty for deer but you have to make sure the shot is good (as with any weight).  Check your states laws to make sure that it's legal to hunt with.  Here in Ohio 40 is actually our minimum hunting weight, so yea he'll be fine.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: ron w on January 11, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
A friend shot a 150 class deer with a 42# Shrew and a 2 blade broadhead last fall, The shot was 17 yards from the ground and was a complete pass thru. The picture was on Ron La clairs web site. If all is right, its enough.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: tradtusker on January 11, 2010, 06:16:00 PM
with the right arrow set up you bet it will work
just make sure those arrows are properly tuned
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: greg fields on January 11, 2010, 06:20:00 PM
Would I use it when I am capable of pulling 60?  No
Will I use it when I can only pull 40#-  not even a question.....
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: bornagainbowhunter on January 11, 2010, 06:27:00 PM
Thanks guys.  I really did not know if his shoulder problems were going to permit hunting whitetails, as I see, it should not be a problem.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Pointer on January 11, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
sure it will....my dad used a 40lb york recurve for years with old bear cedar shafts and bear razorheads...no troubles for him
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Doug Treat on January 11, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
It should be fine.  Just think of it this way: A 40# recurve (esp. a new one that takes a faster string) will shoot a 550 gr. arrow faster than a lot of 55# selfbows using the same arrows (10 gr./# arrows) and you hear about a lot of guys hunting even bigger animals (elk and such) with those 55# selfbows.  This is exactly my situation this year with shoulder problems.  I'm trying to talk myself into going after elk with a 40# Quinn recurve this year.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: customcrester on January 11, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
No problem,it will do the job.My father has been bowhunting since the early 1950's and most hunters back then used bows of 45# for everything.Only when the compound bow was invented did shooters start shooting over 50#'s.Use a SHARP broadhead and your father will do just fine.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 11, 2010, 07:45:00 PM
yes, but 40# at his draw length.
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Post by: Ragnarok Forge on January 11, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Get close and put it in the boiler room.  40 lbs with a clean shot wil kill anything in America.
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Post by: Broken Arrow 1 on January 11, 2010, 08:39:00 PM
yes
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Post by: gordie on January 11, 2010, 08:48:00 PM
i like rob...he has a nak for understanding.

where can i buy some of that...LOL.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: VA Robinhood on January 12, 2010, 09:23:00 AM
I have had numerous passthroughs with a 40# bow on deer shooting about a 500 grain arrow.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Fishnhunt on January 12, 2010, 09:52:00 AM
I had 2 full pass thrus on deer this year.  I also had 2 spined deer.  On the first spined deer, the head passed thru the spine (dropping the animal) and lodged into off shoulder blade and then broke at the aluminum threads.  Onn the 2nd spined deer, the head lodged into the spine dropping the animal but the head did not bust thru spine.  

I had previously reported that the bow was 40#@ at my DL.  I was wrong.  I recently put the bow on a scale and it scaled to 40#@28 and 37#@27.  My DL is 27" so I am pulling 37.  Its a '65 Howatt w/ B50.
I shot the above deer w/ 515-580 grain arrows.

Over the next few months I am going to practice form and execution to hopefully avoid more spined animals in the future.  Also, I'm going up in bow weight.....not b/c I need to, butb/c I think it will be a fun challenge.  I'll report back with my results.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Squirrelbane on January 12, 2010, 10:06:00 AM
for a deer? absolutely
for a squirrel? no
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Post by: Jesse Peltan on January 12, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
40# will work.  I'd use a skinny 8125 for sure though.  4strands padded to 16 will work well.  BTW 4strands is good up to 49# of draw weight.  I think OL found an increase in speed equivalent to 15# of draw weight with a skinny string vs a dacron.  A 4strand padded to 16 will work for old bows too.  An important thing to remember is that from 37-49# of draw weight 4strands of 8125 will be the SAFEST string.  More strands will put more stress on the tips and less will put more stress on the string.  Also try to get his foc as high as possible.  Basically take advantage of all the newer research to help penetration.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on January 12, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
I killed a deer this year with a 42# self bow and got a pass through on a quartering away shot. Its all about the sharp broadhead, and tuned arrow! A poorly tuned arrow out of a fifty pound bow will perform much worse than a well tuned arrow out of a 40# bow
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: pcappy08 on January 12, 2010, 11:05:00 AM
yes, at that draw weight i would recommend a good sharp 2 blade
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: James on laptop on January 12, 2010, 11:17:00 AM
Or a good sharp 3 blade.  ;)  

I shot through a little buck this year with no problem useing the VAP Terminator,425gn arrow and a bamboo osage bow that really comes out around 38lbs at my 26" draw.You should have no problem at all with a glass bow because my wood bows are pretty slow compared to glass.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: shadman on January 12, 2010, 11:39:00 AM
No problem!
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: on January 12, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
I hunt with women that use 40 pound and a little less draw weight. The most important thing you can do is to make sure that he gets perfect arrow flight. It is very easy to get arrows that are too stiff. Some bows and shooters can shoot a variety of aluminum arrows and get good flight. Other bows are real fussy for spine, for those I almost always find that wood shafts get the best results and the best penetration. Nothing penetrates worse than a clumsy flying arrow, heavier weights are great, but only if they are flying good.  I have seen too many pass thru's with lighter weight bows to ever criticize anyone for using a bow that is easy for them to shoot.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: JEFF B on January 12, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
i will second that  pavan  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Sheepshooter on January 12, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
I took a kid out hunting a few years ago. I put him in a tree and told him I'd pick him up in a couple of hours. When I got back the little twerp had a young 5 point elk on the ground. On his first day of bowhunting, ever! He was shooting a 40 lb bow (at his draw) and he got a passthrough on that elk. He had practised hard all summer and was a really good shot. He hit that elk perfect too!
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Renaissance Man on January 12, 2010, 08:51:00 PM
Good arrow flight, very sharp two bladed broadhead and you will be golden.
One of the nicest fellows I have ever met was a fellow who one the recurve division at one of the first Denton Hill shoots, he was in his late 70's, his son won the longbow and his grandson was shooting with them.
he sat down with me at my Renaissance Archery booth and talked awhile. He shot a 43 lb. bear recurve. Hunted everything with it and had been doing so for thirty years.
Deer, bear and I believe some big game hunts with it also.
Same bow, same arrows and broadheads.
I would have no doubt about your fathers hunting with a 40 pounder.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Herb Calvin on January 12, 2010, 09:26:00 PM
Ohio isn't real clear. The rule and law folder sayss 40# but nothing said and draw.
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Post by: T-Bone on January 12, 2010, 09:32:00 PM
On peteward.com Shanon Kuzik killed a very nice bull moose with a 40# Wright archery recurve with a 500 grain arrow and a two blade magnus.  I believe it was a 15 yard shot and the arrow got complete penetration and stopped in the off-side shoulder.  Pete ward also said that Shanon was actually drawing only 27" and was pulling maybe 38#'s.  His 500 grain arrows were traveling around 140 fps with that bow.  Pictures of that bull are shown on peteward.com under Rodney Wright archery.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: jcprintz on January 12, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
It sure will work. I killed my first deer with a bow in 1969 using a 42# Pearson recurve and a Bear Razorhead.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: fixer on January 12, 2010, 11:56:00 PM
Just keep'em sharp.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Renaissance Man on January 13, 2010, 12:27:00 AM
It as always comes down to this, the broadhead does the deed, I would not be comfortable hunting with a bow less than 40lbs because I think your arrow will not have enough mass to transfer energy even with a good sharp broadhead.
I just ordered a longbow that will be 45 @ 28 and i draw 28 and a half to 29 depending on the grip.
I would be more than comfortable hunting that bow for anything in the U.S
For years I hunted with a 45lb at my draw length Howatt Hunter and a longbow of the same weight due to a neck injury and take deer was not even an issue.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: Pinelander on January 13, 2010, 08:20:00 AM
Three years ago, I did a short-draw on a very large whitetail buck. At 26" draw, the 36 pound-driven 420 gr. 2014 aluminum broke a rib on entrance and went through his chest... the deer was dead in less 15 seconds.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: yukon chuck on January 13, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Shot placement and very sharp broadheads are the prime considerations regardless of bow weight. With a 40# bow you certainly have enough power to kill efficiently, but shot placement and sharp broadheads are more important than ever. Also, thought must be given to reducing your "maximum effective range" to help you accomplish the goal of proper shot placement. Reducing max distance may result in a reduction in chance for error. Good luck.
Title: Re: is 40# enough?
Post by: jomama on January 13, 2010, 04:09:00 PM
absolutely.