I have a friend that is wanting to try and tune up some carbons. He has a 30" draw length. In order to try and get EFOC with his draw length what is a good light weight, high spine carbon shaft?
I am gonna be a watching this one too. I don't have quite that long of draw weight, but I do pull about 70 lbs. and I have trouble getting the weight upfront.
You could try a Goldtip Entrada Ultralight. They come in a spine of .300 .400 .500 and .600 GT makes some good shafts.
Radial X weaves are good and light
Look at the Carbon Tech line of arrows (the Cheetah for one), as well as some of the Carbon Express shafts.
Craig
Vapor Jets.
Very high quality...toughest carbon I have ever used. I think they are around 6 gpi with a spine of .350.
Almost forgot, the 400=.350 spine and 500=.300 or something close to that.
You might also try some AD Nitro Stinger orange label,they are lightweight and stiffer then AD Trads.The green label Nitro's are even alittle stiffer then the orange label.You can get a high fOC with these tapered carbons.
Maybe an ACC?
I like Easton and Carbon Express for delivering the spine and quality they advertise. Many other carbon mfgrs I have used were less than stellar about delivering what they advertise.
Also, ACC are about as bombproof an arrow as is made.
Carbon Techs and Gold Tips broke on me far too easily.
Good luck, I'd like to have his KE problem!
Snag- i shoot carbon express 250's. cut too 32"- draw to 30" out of 66# longbow with 300gr up front. total weight of 650gr. they bare shaft great.
I have made some CE 250's for him and we can't get enough tip weight to get good EFOC. He is shooting a recurve.
I'm thinking he needs below .300 deflection.
Thanks guys, I'll look into some of these.
the easton epics are around 8 grains an inch for the 400s
If .300 deflection = 105# spine weight I think he will need something stiffer if he is to keep them at +30" bop and put 225gr or more out front...?
Victory
I'm going with beach BH, Victory HV-300 Have A .300 Spine and are 6.9 GPI. Their 350 are 350 spine and 6.4 GPI The lighest spine to weight ratio I have found yet.
I used to be a staff shooter for Victory, but I got a dozen shafts from them that were no good at one point and stopped shooting them. They were a very good consistent shaft, but the dozen I got were sub-par on durability at best. They would take absolutely no abuse. In fact, when I would flex a shaft slightly to check for cracks or splits in the carbon fiber, it would usually just snap.
Maybe they have their QC issues resolved now, but I've since went to Easton shafts for my carbons and haven't looked back.
Craig
Never heard of these before this thread, so i had to google them. What is the outside diameter of the HV400?
You never mentioned the bow wt. Here are a few suggestions. Arrow Dynamic Trads, AD Nitro Stinger Golds, CX 350, Gold Tip 75/95.
I have been shooting Carbon Express Maxima 350's and have been very pleased with their durability and shooting qualities. I use the Maxima, not the Maxima Hunter and they are 8.2 g/in. I load them with 100 g brass inserts and 200 grain points, for 555 grain arrows to shoot out of my 60ish# recurves at my 28" draw length. I think if they were left long they could be tamed with a 50 grain insert if your friend is not shooting much less than 60# at his draw length. These shafts are a bit pricey though. Good luck.
I have been shooting Carbon Express Maxima 350's and have been very pleased with their durability and shooting qualities. I use the Maxima, not the Maxima Hunter and they are 8.2 g/in. I load them with 100 g brass inserts and 200 grain points, for 555 grain arrows to shoot out of my 60ish# recurves at my 28" draw length. I think if they were left long they could be tamed with a 50 grain insert if your friend is not shooting much less than 60# at his draw length. These shafts are a bit pricey though. Good luck.
The bow is 50#@28". I was thinking of keeping the shaft weight down if possible. This is just because of others posts on here about EFOC. It seems the theory is a light shaft, but stiff shaft to handle alot of pt. weight...?
Flatlander,
I was tipped off to the Vic archery HV's by one of Earl Jeff's posts a few months or so back.
I now have em in .400 and .350 but have not set up the 350s.
The weights and OD's are like this (from Vic archery website. Vic archery seems to be one of the arrow companies that actually list the specs on their website in an easy to find place)
.300 OD = .287 GPI = 6.9
.350 OD = .284 GPI = 6.4
.400 OD = .282 GPI = 6.1
Look on their websites FAQ for the specs on nock and alum insert. Good luck in whatever you choose.
Thanks for the info. I don't know how expensive they are, but it would be easy to get EFOC with them!