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Title: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Bob L. on January 06, 2010, 11:58:00 AM
No scientific tests done but when it seems like my wood arrows are quieter at the shot than my carbons of similar weight. Anyone else notice this. My whip Classic with these woodies is dead quiet.
Bob
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 06, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
Yes I have I think its because they flex more and I think you can check out wood,carbon,aluminum archers paradox on youtube.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: billy shipp on January 06, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
Every bow I own shoots quieter with wood arrows, and that's about all I shoot today.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: JEFF B on January 06, 2010, 12:35:00 PM
yes they do make a bow quieter more flex and heavy shafts will do it. but after saying that i shoot alum and they are quiet as well  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Bjorn on January 06, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
If the aluminums or carbons weigh the same as the woodies, are perfectly in tune with the bow, and the screw in points are tight(wouldn't that be something-LOL!)they can be as quiet as woodies.
I find most non wood shooters are less concerned about noise than are their woodie shooting counterparts.  :bigsmyl:    :archer:
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Kenneth on January 06, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
From my limited experience I have found woodies to be quieter on bows with leather rests and strike plates but if the rest or strike plate has a little more cusion then aluminums and carbons are just as quiet.

Ken
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: rabbit_buster on January 06, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
X2 what bjorn said.....
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Firstarrow on January 06, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
Good posts everyone. Good points Bjorn.

We did a test one year while out hunting. Three of us shooting 3 different bows with 3 different arrows. Shot those three arrows out of oneanothers bows into a dirt mound while the other two hid behind said mound (scientifically listening for what an animal would hear : ) . We found that the aluminums had a ring out of each bow. Carbons had a "buzzy thump" (is that a description?)and the woods had a thump. Over all we voted unamimously that the woods were quieter to our ears. It may have been that the woods were no less quiet, but the frequency / pitch was more acceptable.

I would like to see a scientific test to verify our findings.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on January 06, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
What do you mean with quiet? Quiet in the hand or quiet to the ear?
I shoot POC's and carbons.With POC the bow is more quiet in the hand, as to the ear I notice no difference.
I suppose it has to do with difference in weight, my woodies weigh more then my carbons.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: George D. Stout on January 06, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Hollow tubing will magnify any noise, so that is your answer, at least for the most part.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: pcappy08 on January 06, 2010, 02:10:00 PM
Not a scientific response but I think woodies are quiter cause they're not hollow thus they have more material to absorb vibration
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Bob L. on January 06, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
Good Point on the hollow tubing never thought of that maybe thats it. Quiet meaning to the ear Flying Ducthman for me.
Thanks for the responses.
Bob
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Don Stokes on January 06, 2010, 05:03:00 PM
Wood arrows are definitely quieter than aluminum in flight. Haven't had experience with carbon.
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Post by: shadman on January 06, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
Yes, but not enough to make any difference.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: vtmtnman on January 06, 2010, 05:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by George D. Stout:
Hollow tubing will magnify any noise, so that is your answer, at least for the most part.
That's what I was thinking.Woodies are solid...the others are hollow.I've noticed wood is a touch quiter from my Schafer than the others.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Ranger Rick on January 06, 2010, 06:16:00 PM
woodies are quieter in my selfbows and seem to be more forgiving on spine
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: bentpole on January 06, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
Vince at Mohawk Bows told me the same thing a while back. Wood arrows are solid; carbon and aluminum are hollow. It makes sense to me. I find that woodies are quieter.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 06, 2010, 06:52:00 PM
to say that woodies are quieter than carbons is like saying chevys are faster than fords.  neither have the most important data - the comparison specifics.  

though i love the nostalgia of a poc shaft, if woodies were proved to be twice as quiet as carbons, i'd still predominantly use carbons for hunting.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: George D. Stout on January 06, 2010, 06:56:00 PM
Oh Rob, you are just a techno-twanger from way back.    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 06, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by George D. Stout:
Oh Rob, you are just a techno-twanger from way back.     :saywhat:     :)
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: L. E. Carroll on January 06, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
A question from  dummy.... has anyone ever injected liguid foam from a can into a shaft and allowed it to dry?  would that quiet them down? change the spine? increase the shaft weight?

Might be an area to explore???

Gene
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: snag on January 06, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
Interesting idea Gene.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 06, 2010, 07:21:00 PM
the only thing i wanna shove inside my carbonies is a 4.5" internal weight footing sleeve.  

one thing for sure - efoc carbons are REAL quiet, at least for me.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Ben Maher on January 06, 2010, 07:45:00 PM
so the guitar players are now arguing about the noise from  their bows .....
wait til they bring out the carbon reflex deflex telecaster ...then we'll see some real arguments!!!

but in answer to the original post .. i find my woodies quieter than carbons , but not by anything overtly noticeable ....

ben
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: blktail on January 06, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
What George said.All my bows are quieter shooting woods over the hoolow ones.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: L. E. Carroll on January 06, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
Don't own, nor have I ever played a Guitar.... just asked a question  :confused:

Gene   :notworthy:
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: bowmofo on January 06, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
wood is much Quieter, I shoot wood with wood and I get the comments!
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: myshootinstinks on January 06, 2010, 08:19:00 PM
My bows are quieter w/ wood arrows, especially at 10+ grains per pound. Plus they are a lot more fun to build. As George said, a hollow tube will resonate.
  Some these skinny, weight forward carbons may be a little noisier but they sure shoot nice.
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Bob L. on January 07, 2010, 03:18:00 PM
Any other opinions out there?
Title: Re: Observation-Do woodies make your bow quieter?
Post by: Capt on January 07, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
In my experience wood arrows seem quieter, might be better tuned to the bow, point/broadhead may be on the shaft tighter, or maybe just heavier.  Could also be a little aural illusion because I like to shoot wood over the man made stuff.