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Title: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: kennym on January 04, 2010, 11:58:00 PM
The land where I took the buck in my avatar and several others is going to have to be sold off to pay my mothers nursing home care.  160 acres of beautiful hunting ground.

My boys all took their 1st deer on it,wish I could buy it,but not to be...

Just wish a trad bowhunter would end up with it!
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: elknutz on January 05, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
I am sorry for your loss, but its for a good purpose.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: PAPA BEAR on January 05, 2010, 12:25:00 AM
that sucks...if i had that kinda money i would buy it and gift it right back to you kenny.memories are important and sounds like you have a lot of them there.maybe you could get the hunting rights on it.always hope.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: GRINCH on January 05, 2010, 02:15:00 AM
Thats just sad,so sorry to hear.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: K.S.TRAPPER on January 05, 2010, 07:05:00 AM
Dang it Kenny that sucks  "[dntthnk]"  I sure hope someone buys it that will let you still hunt on it.

Tracy
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: 2treks on January 05, 2010, 07:23:00 AM
It saddens my heart when a family farm gets sold, but it is a great thing to take care of our families with know regret. Good on you Kenny and prayers and blessing to your family.Can you let us know when(or before) the listing is made? maybe someone is looking to move to MO.
Take care.
Chuck
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Whip on January 05, 2010, 07:30:00 AM
That is too bad Kenny.  I'm sure you would like nothing more than to be able to keep it in the family.  
Have you explored all other options?  I spent a carreer in banking, and dealt with a number of cases where we were able to help preserve a family home.  Each case is different, and it doesn't always work, but if you would like to talk about it shoot me a PM or give me a call.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: GingivitisKahn on January 05, 2010, 08:03:00 AM
That stinks man.  Just a thought, but you might consider negotiating hunting rights for yourself and family and getting that written right into the contract.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: RayMO on January 05, 2010, 08:12:00 AM
Kenny, when I read your post my reaction was "oh no!". I understand, but man it just doesn't seem right does it. We have to take care of our own and my hats off to you for making a difficult choice. My wife's parents are in their 80's and they live with us so we can help them.

Hang in there man and God bless..

RayMO
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: 2treks on January 05, 2010, 08:21:00 AM
Nice offer Whip
Sometimes we need to dig deep and ask for some help or advice. that is when you find some friends and people that care and can help. I hope it works out just right for you Kenny.
Chuck
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: D. Key on January 05, 2010, 08:43:00 AM
Sorry for your loss.  Good hunting ground is sure hard to find and you hate to loose it when you have it.

I hope you find something ind the future.  Best of luck.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: NDTerminator on January 05, 2010, 09:01:00 AM
For a good reason, but that just flat out sucks.  Sorry for you, Bro...
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Uncle Buck on January 05, 2010, 09:12:00 AM
maybe you could work a deal for the sale that included hunting rights for your immediate family.
I have seen such deals a few times. It all depends on what the buyer is going to use the land for.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: BMN on January 05, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
Very sorry to hear that. Hopefully everything will work out for you. God bless.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Downwind Lefty on January 05, 2010, 09:23:00 AM
Kenny - as stated above it's possible to include hunting rights in the terms of the sale. I once had some ground in Western Maryland and when I purchased it - there were 4 names of people right in the contract that had been granted lifetime hunting rights. The land had been sold a couple of times and they "conveyed" each time.

I had no problem with it and hopefully you could work out the same deal for you and your sons.

Good luck.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: joekeith on January 05, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
It'sa shame.  Hope something works out where you can still hunt.  Like the old saying, "a man's gotta do, what a man's gotta do."  Good luck Kenny.  :pray:
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: RRock on January 05, 2010, 09:53:00 AM
Went thru the same thing about 6 years ago. Had to sell the home place. Always though I'd retire back there.  Kenny, check out the "Half Loaf", theory, see if it applies to your situation.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Dave Bulla on January 05, 2010, 09:56:00 AM
That's too bad Kenny.  I've not had to deal with that scenario yet but my mom and dad have been taking care of my mom's parents for a LOOOONG time.  It started when my grandfather had a couple heart attacks and ended up with Alzheimer's.   My grandmother has never had a drivers license and couldn't take care of him by herself so she asked all the kids who would help out.  She told them all that whoever was willing to care for them till they died would get the farm.  My mom was the only one to volunteer.  Honestly, at the cost of nursing home care it was the best deal all the way around as the money from the farm would have only lasted a couple years and grammy is still going.  It's been a heck of a burden with plenty of "horror stories" but they were able to keep the farm in the family.  Last I heard, full time doctor assisted care nursing homes can cost well over $50,000 per year.  That can suck up money from a farm sale real fast.  Depending on your mom's health, it may be smarter to have the kids take turns caring for her or do as my parents did and have one kid take the burden and be compensated accordingly.  It's not easy either way.

Hope you can work something out.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Mudd on January 05, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
I'm sorry to hear it. I had a favorite spot I hunted for well over 25 years, its where I got the Woogchilde started with her hunting career so it holds a bunch of special memories for the both of us. So I certainly understand what you're facing.
God bless, Mudd
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Mint on January 05, 2010, 10:02:00 AM
That really sucks. But if anyone thinks they will be in the same position you should talk to an estate planner. I believe if you have no assets in your name for 39 months medicare will pick up the cost of the nursing home. Planning ahead of time is the key.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Rick Wiltshire on January 05, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Kenny,

Is there a way you can post info on the land in case anyone has the ability to purchase the land?

Could they PM or e-mail you for info?
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: TNstickn on January 05, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
Nothing more important than taking care of family. I've been telling my kids thats how you judge a man. Proud and sad for you at the same time. I hope some of the suggestions above can work for you.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: turkey522 on January 05, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
Sorry to hear about that,hope everything works out for you.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: joevan125 on January 05, 2010, 02:23:00 PM
I know how you feel we lost a 1,600 acr lease that we had for 8 years and we shot only big bucks off the property.

If i would have known we were losing it i would have taken a lot more deer, been sick about it all season.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: StanM on January 05, 2010, 03:22:00 PM
So sorry to hear that Kenny.  What's right isn't always easy, and what's easy isn't always right.  I would encourage you to respond to Whip and Rick.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: hogdancer on January 05, 2010, 03:42:00 PM
post the info. when you get it you never know ?  I just bought some hunting land or I'd look at it myself and would have been happy to have you continue hunting, there may be others on here like me that are looking for land as well.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Brian Krebs on January 05, 2010, 04:00:00 PM
That sucks.

I 'lost' my mother on Christmas eve in 2008- and she was hooked up to the care-center money drain.

Seems like the people that are the most important to the patients: are those that are paid the very least.

 Something for all of us to think about as we get older.

 It takes a split second to have a stroke; and that can at any time of your life; leave legal issues up to courts and realities that we just plain do not like.

Talk to a legal professional now about estate planning !
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: xtrema312 on January 05, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Mint:
That really sucks. But if anyone thinks they will be in the same position you should talk to an estate planner. I believe if you have no assets in your name for 39 months medicare will pick up the cost of the nursing home. Planning ahead of time is the key.
I have had relatives and my wife's grand parents distributed much of what they had ahead of time so they didn't have assets.  I have also heard people putting stuff like land in a trust to protect it for their family.  From what I have heard if you don't have money they can't bleed you dry, and they have to take what Medicare pays instead of everything they can take from you at whatever rate they want to charge.  I wouldn't go down without trying everything.  Maybe you could even sell half or some lots if you had to do it to get it worked out, but at least you would still have some land left.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: Mojostick on January 05, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
Find out who's buying it when it sells. There are still windows of options, unless hunters are buying it. While leasing is a dirty word to some, it's reality now, like it or not.

Property taxes alone make it so for many land owners.

If hunters aren't buying it, the present owner could mention that you want to lease right off the bat, at the closing.

If hunters aren't buying it in todays reality, if it's prime ground, if you don't lease it, more than likely someone else will.  

It blows, I know. But it is what it is.
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: kennym on January 05, 2010, 10:29:00 PM
Hey guys,
Thanks for the help.

First, let me say I am NOT upset to sell it to pay Ma's care. She worked her whole life,she deserves the best.

It is in a 3 way partnership with her sister and another of her sister's heirs. I am the power of attorney for Ma ,but have to work with the other owners to set price and sell.

Anyone interested ,feel free to call me or pm me. We have 6 months. 660 734 2113

Farming it just doesn't pencil the payments for me,so I don't think I want any part of it.

As said above,get your stuff in order,3 years age ,she lived alone and took care of herself.Now she needs 24 hr care, she stayed with my sis as long as possible,but had to be admitted to a nursing home to have round the clock care.

It was too late by the time we knew, I wish with all my heart I could change something......

Scouting for new places to hunt,Kenny
Title: Re: goodbye to my hunting ground
Post by: eman614 on January 05, 2010, 11:28:00 PM
i got places you can hunt if you want to come to georgia. i hope you can find something closer to home though. hope your ma does well in the home. good luck, eric