Trying out some Foam/Bl. Glass limbs.. R/c..
Are they AS FAST or..Slower than Foam/Carbon??
Longerlasting ? More Resilient?? What? Should I keep them and hold out for f/c.. I NEED the
collective Braintrust of Experience!!
I have both Morrison foam/carbon and just foam glass both are some of the best limbs I have owned performance wise.I do think you gain a few FPS with the carbon but other than that quietness is pretty much the same and draw smoothness feels the same to me.I ordered another set of "A" carbon/foam recurve limbs last month I did the carbon mainly because I shoot low poundage and have a shorter draw so every little bit I gain helps.If I was shooting 55+ lbs and had a 28" or longer draw I would just go foam core at those specs you will be smokeing a arrow with out the carbon.
I have about a 29" draw, on 53# @ 28" limbs which
is about 56#@ 28"+-.. Was mainly worried about reliability... Know of a couple of foam/carbons that blew up.. I THINK--- I'll like the foam/Blackglass. Just not sure.. :bigsmyl:
I have two pairs of Morrison LB Cheyenne limbs.
One is Foam the other Wood core, both pairs are super smooth drawing, and very quick, slight edge to the foam. I would be real shocked if the foam limbs ever give you a problem. These are Bob's premier limb. I paid over 700 for mine, better be the best.
Put them on a draw force curve. I'm betting foam or glass will measure the same. Smoothness is measurable and a function/result of limb shape. Less weight should mean more speed though; all things being equal of course. Carbon, done right, is lighter than glass, so should be faster as well, again, keeping all the variables equal. I heard the Korean Olympic archers are back to wood? Not sure.
The Draw force curve really only tells part of the story I think. I'll try and chrono them and let you know. As far as the Korean archers, they could probably win with solid fiberglass limbs, they are just that good. No one has such solid form throughout the entire team.
I have/had several sets of morrison limbs cheyenne recurves,ILFs,Cheyenne longbow limbs,cheyenne Bamboo limbs. I have shot them all through my Chrony with the same a 540gr arrow my findings have been just what Bob said in order of speed bamboo the slowest,then foam, and then carbon/foam being the fastest. That said the bamboo limbs I had were world class limbs fast,quiet, and smooth draw so its really hard to pick a set of limbs from those three choices. As far as failures I haven't had any but if it worries you just go with the foam they will be great limbs when you get them.
I'm wrestling with the very question of bamboo or foam core myself. I've a Cheyenne riser Bob built me that just fits beautifully.
Bob suggested that if I want the longbow limbs for the Cheyenne (I do) that he would solidly recommend the foam core to smooth out the draw since shoulder arthritis and back stuff keeps me at 50# or under at my 29" draw.
Cheyenne came with 54# "C" bamboo recurve limbs and I quit shooting them after shoulder surgery 6 years ago. Just not going to ever get back to 54#! Been shooting some used 48#@28" D recurve limbs. I want longbow limbs big time... :)
Course, Bob also finds the carbon-foam to be 3-4fps faster, which translates to more imparted energy, but they're quite a bit more expensive.
I'd be delighted to read more about anyone's findings on the Cheyenne longbow limbs in either bamboo under glass or foam core---or better yet, actual comparisons between them...
You can't go wrong with those limbs.
I traded my A recurve limbs a few months back that were bamboo core new recurve style. I got in trade the foam carbon limbs and I am hear to tell you you would not believe the diff !!! Biggest diff for me was so much faster and so much quieter as if Bob's older limbs were not fast and quiet already. I picked up a solid 6fps faster and so quiet for a recurve ! If these are going to be limbs you plan on keeping go ahead and buy foam carbon and be done with it, they are worth it.... JMHO
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I have just a set of foam limbs,bob told me that the bigger advantage with carbon is more on longbow limbs.
The one's I'm trying are foam/Black glass.. How do they rate---->> carbon/Foam?? I know carbon/foam are faster 3-6fps? But are foam/b.glass ??? More Dependable?? :confused:
Dan,
Reading back over your concerns, it seems the stories you've heard about foam cores breaking down is stuck in your head...
And rightfully so for the $$. I've known Bob for several years. Not like some who buy/sell with him regularly, but we've shared many fires when he used to come to E. Shoots to peddle his bows. He's a genuine person of honor.
I'd call him. Tell him straight up what is bothering you and ask for his input. He's as straight a shooter as ever walked. I'd trust what he tells you.
I got the carbon foam longbow limbs on my Cheyenne.I had the foam longbow limbs before I got these.
I do like the carbons more by a bit.I think they shoot a little crisper.Possibly a little more stable on a marginal release with the stiffer properties of carbon being more resistant to torsional pressure.
The foam are very nice as well.both are very quiet.
I liked my foam limbed arapaho recurve limbs alot.Very impressed with the carbon foam recurve limbs on my cheyenne that are supremly fast limbs.
I have had good luck with the foam and foam/ carbon.Both are very quiet and shock free.
The carbon/foam cheyenne longbow limbs are one of my favorite setups.I got an A riser all phenolic with D limbs.I draw it 30 inches and its one of the smoothest pulling and shooting bows I ever had.It is quiet!
I believe black glass is gonna be tougher as far as banging the limb on hard objects like concrete or steel.Especially the edges of the limb.
Thanks for the help Guy's!! Was out shooting them yesterday trying to get a Feel for them! They are fast. Still wondering??? What am I Missing?? Can I be Happy w/ a Honda when I wanted a HARLEY!! LOL. :biglaugh:
One thing to keep in mind is that Bob uses glass on the belly of the carbon limbs which makes them much more durable. Usually when the carbon blows up it is on the belly of the limb.
I have three sets of ILF long bow, all carbon backed and foam cored with glass bellies. They are fantastic limbs and seem to be very durable. I had my lightest set on an old riser and they jumped the string (long story, the string loops were too big) and flew out of the riser, sliding 10 yards down a concrete floor at the range. They are just fine and have been shot at least 700 to 800 times since then. They don't really have any noticeable scratches except for one corner of one limb, that I just superglued. The concrete was smooth and finished indoor style though. I think the carbon foam limbs are very tough.
OK Bob, where are you? Technical question here.
just kinda hidin. keeps me out of trouble. What ther question???
Spoke w/ Bob (Extremely Fine Gentleman) today. He allayed ALL my FEARS.. Made me understand that each Alien needs his own kind of spaceship :notworthy:
So I take it you have a new set of limbs ordered?
By the way Bob that 20 inch riser is pretty darn cool.
Gotta love the foam core limbs, I've had 3 sets and when I got my first set I was blown away at how smooth they drew and how much quiter they were than all the other limbs I had shot, but this is one mans opinion but do yourself a big favor and get a set, you'll love em!
Received the foam/b.glass limbs,very quiet. Fast!
Bob allowed me to understand that the extra 4fps
Wouldn't be that " Beneficial" with my almost 29" draw. Not for the money. :biglaugh: Also, I've had "c" limbs in c./foam and they weren't NEAR as
smooth as these "D" limbs..I think I'll be satisfied.. NOW if this dadgummed Weather would just cooperate!! :biglaugh: