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Title: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: LongStick64 on December 28, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
What is the difference between Actionwood and Dymondwood ?
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: wingnut on December 28, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
Actionwood is laminated birch, Dymondwood is laminated birch that is impregnated with resin.

Mike
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: Dave Worden on December 28, 2009, 02:24:00 PM
And.....probably because of the impregnation, Dymondwood is heavier.  It sure makes a nice riser!!
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: xtrema312 on December 28, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
I heard dymondwood is heavier, but is it stronger?  I read impregnated wood can be brittle.  Does this apply to dymondwood?
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: LongStick64 on December 28, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
So which one makes a better riser in your opinion, anyone have one that delaminated.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: wingnut on December 28, 2009, 03:09:00 PM
Dyamond wood has a repretation of cracking and delaminating.  We were considering using it in a future bow line but after talking extensively with the manufacture, we have decided not go that way.

Mike
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: xtrema312 on December 28, 2009, 03:29:00 PM
How is action wood compared to other quality hard woods?  Birch doesn't sound all that tough, but if laminated I would guess all the glue would maybe make it stronger.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: wingnut on December 28, 2009, 03:32:00 PM
Yep the multilam materials are much stronger and stable.  Most wood gunstocks these days are made of one kind or another.  I wish we could still get the maple actionwood.  It is heavier.

Mike
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: legends1 on December 28, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
As Mike mentionaed above Dymondwood is not requamented for use in bow riser by the company.Mike also mentioned the diffrence of the two products.Actionwood is a slang name for the use in archery.Actionwood is called Stratabond by the manufacture.Actionwood (Starabond) when used in risers is most often seen in
black(gray)or brown.I use the black Actionwood in my new 60' Tornado recurve with a 17" riser,and use it upon request in my other recurves with 21' risers upon request.As Mike mentioned Actionwood is used in gunstocks and bow risers.Bowyers who use lamanated products use Actionwood.Such as Blackwidow,Palmer i believe.
I order the black (we call gray) from Rutland Plywood.I have it made in 16 1/2" x 51" sheets.In that size min.order is four sheets.For a riser or two it would be best to get it through Bingham projests.I have never had a problem with the Actionwood. Never used Dymondwood.Actionwood is very easy to work with.Take finish very well.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: pdk25 on December 28, 2009, 10:10:00 PM
I think pronghorn risers are made from dymondwood.  Anyone heard of any problems?
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: BigStriper on December 28, 2009, 11:21:00 PM
Hummingbird Bows also use Dymondwood in some of their Bows,and I Love mine,

Kurt
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: jacobsladder on December 28, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
Love my dymondwood firefly... Going to have another made soon...

Lots of bowyers use dymondwood.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: 30coupe on December 28, 2009, 11:33:00 PM
Both of my Kanatis have dymondwood risers. Jason has built lots of them with no issues. They are one piece bows though, but Herb Meland doesn't seem to have a problem making three piece bows out of them.

Both actionwood and dymondwood are resin impregnated, but dymondwood is impregnated under extreme pressure, which is why it is heavier.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: OH Longbow on December 29, 2009, 12:03:00 AM
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: OH Longbow on December 29, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
I've used both and think they are both excellent.  Though, I will say the Dymondwood was brutal on tools.  Things got dull real quick.  As some have pointed out, it is brittle.  When I was cutting my riser, I used a router to shape the fades.  The ends broke out a little from the beating of the cutting edges but, it wasn't anything a little smooth-on couldn't cover up.  The build is posted on here and there are examples of both Dymonwood and Actionwood.

John
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: marlon on December 30, 2009, 08:28:00 AM
My old recurve bow was made of action wood strung it up to weight it slipped took it to far the limb broke but the handle wood was intact. The bow poundage was 155# @ 28.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: wingnut on December 30, 2009, 08:36:00 AM
marlon,

Is that a typo?  Dang 155 @ 28?  My scale doesn't even go that high.

Mike
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: Charlie Lamb on December 30, 2009, 08:41:00 AM
Not a typo Mike. Marlon shoots some brutally heavy bows.

I almost sold him a 92# recurve I had in the shop. It was a little light for him. If I hadn't cut the shelf on the wrong side he'd now have a bow for his old age.
:D
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: wingnut on December 30, 2009, 08:43:00 AM
Dang it!

I'd have to double the number of lams and go to .060 glass to get something like that.

Bet it left a mark when it blew.

Mike
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: 7 Lakes on December 30, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
I've used Dymondwood for years without any problems.  It rasps well, smoothly without clogging & it's heavy which is what I'm looking for in a riser.  

A scratched finish will have no effect, moisture is not absorbed like it would be in Actionwood.

I like it.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: Hill Hunter on December 30, 2009, 10:56:00 PM
I have a Jordon Stalker I got about 2 months ago with a camo Dymond wood riser and camo actonwood limbs, I love the feel of it and it shoots great.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: Sixby on December 30, 2009, 11:49:00 PM
I saw a pic of the burgendy or rosewood diamond wood and then a grey riser. Couldn't stand it so I ordered the two colors from Binghams and am going to build a bow with the combination. I'll let you know what I think of it when I get the bow done. I've never built with any of those laminated woods before. I understand that what Binghams has is built with yellow birch which is much stronger than the white or paper birch. I honestly do not know who supplies which kind of birch.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: k. sisco on December 30, 2009, 11:52:00 PM
Hey Sixby post some pics. when you get it done,I sure would like to see it.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: TradBowyer on December 31, 2009, 12:19:00 AM
i've used 4 risers blocks, 2 split, the other 2 came out fine. The one that split, split perfectly right down a joint. I spread the joint apart, shoved smoothon down in the crack, clamped real good and bingo. the other cracked too bad for me to fix. Dymondwood is very dense, on the hard side on the tools, but takes a finish nice. You can build a much smaller riser and cut a deeper sight window with it not to mention a very stable material.
Title: Re: ActionWood vs DymondWood
Post by: Holm-Made on December 31, 2009, 02:13:00 AM
Dymondwood is compressed under lots of pressure.  I understand that there are 2 grades of it as far as density.  You do not want the denser varity as it is more brittle.  Chad