Don't be discouraged because your non premium (but funtional and cost effective)wool hunting garment leaks like a screen door in the winter wind. Take a tip from the golfers and buy yourself a windshirt. Here are two shirts and one vest version. They consist of a shell and a tightly woven nylon liner and will keep you warm without adding bulk (we have to swing a club).
In very cold weather I wear long johns, wool shirt, windshirt, non premium wool coat and keep very warm even in cold windy weather. So wear your Asbell pullovers, Ron LaClair hunting shirts, Columbia hunting coats with confidence. Available at any golf store on online golf stores.
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Good idea. My wife used to sew silk into the top 2/3's of wool pants she sewed for me. Believe me, on Adak in the Aleutians it was a must.
Do you sweat a lot with that on ? I would think it would trap the moisture in.
These wind shirts are the best. When the weather starts turning toward the cold side up here I wear on under my riding cloths on the motorcycle. Makes all the difference in the world.
Wind shirts are great and I often use them as a layering garment with wool...even premium wool. I know that a lot of hunters worry about them making noise, but I have personally experienced no problem with this as long as the wind barrier in beneath other layers.
Thanks for posting your timely tip, reddogge!
Claudia
IF a hunter/shopper gets REAL lucky you can find one (far right, above) for $3.99 at Goodwill !!!!
Since you're going for wool anyway, check the rack for windshirts and brush pants, too!
Headed out, hopefully into snow flurries and a crisp day of woods time.
I found that they clash with my green Masters coat. :cool:
My first thought was nylon=noise, but fortunately, Claudia has already addressed that. Thanks for the tip.
This is good info, been wondering how to cure this very problem, and do it quietly. ANY wool, I dont care how much it cost can use a wind break behind it.
Thanks
Eric
Great tip thanks.
VTer,
Dang bud if you have a Masters jacket, you can afford the good wool. LOL
Cabelas has a light jacket, windshirt also in camo. I picked one up last year and use if for layering. It will be on the list for Alaska next September.
Mike
I find they are still noisy even under other layers. What works best for me is wind stopper polar fleece as a layering garment. It doesn't seem to make much difference where the layer is for me. Not all polar fleece wind stopper is noise free though. Try on several different brands for the quietest material at a good outdoor store like REI. Right now is a great time to buy the stuff...Doc
The brown one I'm wearing is absolutely noise free and very soft. The Sunderland from Scotland (blue) is a little crinkly but under a heavy wool coat you can't hear it. It also stops the wind the best.
I walk and play with these things and don't get all sweaty or clammy but if I had a difficult hike in I'd either pack my heavy wool coat or pack the wind shirt and put it on while on stand or moving moderately or slowly. I don't think you'd sweat anymore than a wool coat with a wind stop liner in it.
Years ago I purchased a set of the green Scent Lok suits. I am not a fan of Scent Lok but that old green suit makes a great windbreaker and is dead silent. I keep it just for that reason. I have also purchased some nice scent lok garments from Sierra Trading Post because these garments are usually very well made and the addition of the scent lok makes them pretty wind proof. If you have a Scent lok suit keep it for those blustery days. If you see one for sale get it....you won't be disappointed in its wind breaking properties.
Thanks for sharing I have done this for years. A word of caution -- if you are walking for any distance you may want to pack in the windproof, or walk at a pace that does not make you sweat, and yes we are all different in that regard your experience will guide your actions. Happy outdoor activity. Reddogge thanks very nice thread for us wool lovers.If you are in Wisconsin and want to golf we have some really nice courses. I will not slow you down my current handicap is zero -- you have to be decent at something. Thanks Jerry.
You'll be giving me a pile of strokes.
The wind shirt wouldn't be used all of the time, only in very cold windy weather. That's the beauty of it, wear it or take it off. It's not a permanent part of your wool clothing.
Good info. and easy to pack when not in use.
QuoteOriginally posted by VTer:
I found that they clash with my green Masters coat. :cool:
:bigsmyl:
its a good idea did not think of it, thanks
Good grief.....I wear "non-premium wool".....now I feel really cheap. 8^).
I have a poly hooded sweat shirt that will break the wind and is not noisy. I can wear it over top a light wool sweater, and wear a heavy wool shirt over that. It's not really complicated if you think about it.
Now I don't hunt on the top of Mount Washington, in 100 mph winds, so I usually stay comfortable and warm with minimal clothing.
I had this thread on my mind for several days.
Not wanting to invest a lot in something I was unsure about, I thought I would go visit "the auction site" to see if I could find one cheap.
I did.
I got a brand new golf v-neck pullover wind shirt for $2.99 plus $2.75 shipping. Paid with PayPal. Didnt even have to leave my seat. SOMETIMES the internet is just great. ;)
Just did a "wind shirt" search.
Its worth a look.
Thanks for the idea on this. :thumbsup:
Wind has been howling up until a couple days ago.
another great idea thanks for shareing now where did my wife put mine :banghead:
Most of my wool is non-premium. Old military sweaters, etc. I found that an old field jacket liner works well in windy conditions with little or no additional noise. A little too warm if you're moving alot.
I have to agree with tippit on the fleece too. I have a liner from an upland coat I got for Christmas two years ago. Rarely wear the coat but the fleece stops the wind and is almost too warm at times.
Just another tip. I wear these windshirts fishing too on chilly windy days. You can get away with a lighter outer jacket with the windshirt underneath.
I was looking at the KOM & SI wool but can not justify the cost at the moment and so I have ordered a pullover from Teresa; very interested to see how it works out.
On the topic of wool in windy weather, it seems to me that if the wool is woven loose enough to let a considerable amount of wind through, you are going to lose a large amount of the insulation properties of the material if the wind stopping layer is on the inside...or am I missing something?
Red Dwarf
Great idea... will hit the thrift shop tomorrow.
Great idea... will hit the thrift shop tomorrow.
Red Dwarf, That's what this post is all about, using the windshirt under the wool to block the wind. You may want to read it.
Been using them for years from when I used to golf with my father right through the NY winter...man we were nuts...lol...I've even bought them 2 sizes too big and layered polypro and another fabric under them to avoid what Chetter is referring to. In a dark green I've found them to be effective as an outer garment in the woods and the newer fabrics are indestructible....thanks for sharing
reddogge
I did read the post, have another read of mine. My point is that when the wind blocking layer is on the inside of the insulating layer (the wool) then surely the action of the wind penetrating the wool will have a detrimental effect on it's insulating ability.
Red Dwarf
Great tip. I just purchased a Cbelas Windshear Fleece jacket on sale for around 69.00. It can be used alone in mild weather and as a layer in cold,cold weather. Quiet as a mouse too. They didnt have the pants in my sixe but as soon as they do I will be getting a pair.
I was thinking the same thing Red Dwarf was....
If the wind is blowing right thru it and the wind shirt is stopping it, then everytime it does blow thru, it's like blowing all the warmth out of the wool.
I think the point he's trying to make is that something used to block the wind would be more effective as an outer layer so as to keep all the insulating properties of wool in tact.
Just like to make a point about Cabela's "Wind Shear". Seems that not all their 'Wind Shear" is the same stuff. Some of it is quite, some is very noisy.
I just purchases two items from Cabela's both with Wind-Shear. A fleece vest, that is very quite to the touch, and a camo wool zip sweater that is as noisy as heck. Obviously they are both NOT the same stuff. The sweater was on sale, and I can see why. Its impractical for hunting where quite is needed.
Maybe beware of Cabela's Wind-Shear when its on sale? Or be prepared to send it back. There appears no way to tell the difference between the two in the descriptions, both are just described as "Wind Shear"!
I will certainly give this a try, it can't be worse than the Windshear stuff from Cabela's, as far as noise.
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I think the point he's trying to make is that something used to block the wind would be more effective as an outer layer so as to keep all the insulating properties of wool in tact.
I've been using the windhsirt idea for years and it works well. The others do have a point though. Kind of like why they put
Tyvek on the outside of your house and not the inside.
If the wind stopper is on the inside of a garment...it may stop the wind...but it would serve a much GREATER purpose to be on the outside...stopping the wind and leaving the warm air from the inside next to the wool/fleece....like double pane windows.
However,...the outer wind blocking shell needs to be made of a QUIET material.