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Title: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: dino on December 25, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
I've read a lot of threads over the years of guys looking for or talking up the old autumn orange XX75s. What makes them so good?  Just nostalgia, they're better than a legacy XX75 or different in some other way?  

You know if easton started making them again they wouldn't be cheaper than a GGII 75, so why would you pay more money for an autumn orange over an GGII black shaft?  I used to shoot them a long time ago just never seen what makes them so special, just curious.  dino
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: tollgatetraditions on December 25, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
I think they are better because they are discontinued and not available.  Plus the fact that they were made with swaged nock ends to use glue on nocks and available in a multitude of sizes.

The Gamegetter Blacks come in four spine sizes (the lightest being 2016) and have bushings installed to use Easton's super nocks. Inexpensive but not a big range of sizes.

Carbon seems to be where the market is today.

george
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: JRY309 on December 25, 2009, 12:55:00 PM
I like the autumn orange for their looks,they are not any better then any other XX75 aluminum.I like Legacy's for their looks,but I have a shoot GGII,Camo Hunter,Autumn orange,Legacy but any XX75 is fine with me.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: dino on December 25, 2009, 01:27:00 PM
I was wondering about the swaged nock, but legacy's have that too.  The swaged nock is way better than the super nock/unibushing thing in the new gamegetters IMO but the legacy is still available if you want the swaged nock thing.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: doowop on December 25, 2009, 01:59:00 PM
The orange color makes them faster!!!  :^)
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Spectre on December 25, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Just 'cause they look great. Thats all.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: maxwell on December 25, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
The aluminum should be the same( I think)  xx75 so its pretty much color and size availability.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Brian Krebs on December 25, 2009, 02:24:00 PM
easier to find- after a pass-through or a miss.

I was under the impression that the gamegetters were either a lesser grade aluminum; or made to less stringent tolerances..

I really liked the autumn orange xx75 shafts.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: SS Snuffer on December 25, 2009, 02:56:00 PM
They are LUCKY thats why they are better!!!!
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Ric O'Shay on December 25, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
Ben Hogan was asked why he preferred one golf ball over another. His reply was simple, "Because its better." So is the Autumn Orange XX75. Don't leave home without 'em.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: George D. Stout on December 25, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
Why do you need a reason for us to like them?  We don't need no stinking reason!  8^))).  We just like them.  

I also like he swaged nock, because you can use a wider variety of nocks, like Bjorn, Bohning Classics or Mercury, etc.  I usually shoot what I can get for the best price, and you can't argue with Easton XX75 no matter what the color.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: cacciatore on December 25, 2009, 03:52:00 PM
Since they are been released I always prefered xx78 over the xx75,much thougher Aluminum.Befor them I was attracted more by the JDA supernatural or the unique Serpent.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Wary Buck on December 25, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
Because it harkens back to our younger days, when for many of us we were just getting into this game.  You've heard of Throwback Jerseys...well, these are Throwback Arrows.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: George D. Stout on December 25, 2009, 04:30:00 PM
Maybe your younger days 8^).  My younger days were in the mid to late 50's.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: vtmtnman on December 25, 2009, 04:32:00 PM
I love them.They're more gooder.

And I lop off the swage as soon as I get them and on goes a unibushing.That was the best thing Easton ever did to aluminums.No more glue drying,cleaning the swage or other annoyances.Pull busted nock,push on new one,done.  :thumbsup:  

Glueing nocks is for wood arrows.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Jwilliam on December 25, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
Wish they still made the green gamegetters too.


Bill
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Spectre on December 25, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jwilliam:
Wish they still made the green gamegetters too.


Bill
What he said.

I just think that the AO shafts are "classic" looking. They always seem to shoot nice, too. I like to glue my nocks, too.
I would like to find me some of them old fiberglass shafts.....what are they called again?  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Big Bird on December 25, 2009, 04:52:00 PM
I hate change and they looked good to.they were just good arrows.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Warden609 on December 25, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
The chicks dig it  ;)
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Ken Taylor on December 25, 2009, 06:04:00 PM
I liked the autumn orange because they were easier to find than  camo arrows but yet they didn't stand out excessively while hunting. To accentuate the problem further for me, they have quit making 2419s too!
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: BOWMARKS on December 25, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
Billy    

Green Gamegetters yuck  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Rufus on December 25, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
I liked them too. Just cause. I have one 2016 left to my name. I have it ready to shoot with a broadhead on it but I won't do it. Kinda like the old sweatshirt I've had for 30 yrs. that I won't throw away(my wife will for sure; retrieved it twice from the dumpster twice), they don't make'em like they used to.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Charlie Lamb on December 26, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
Loved the look of them. Favorite combo was a 2219 AO shaft, brown fletch, brown nock, and Zwickey Delta bh.
  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/cloudydraw.jpg)
 (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/lowgoat2.jpg)
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: marshall brown on December 26, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
I took alot of deer with those orange shafts. They sure do have sentimental value to many people. I've only got a few left and treat them as if they're gold.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Ric O'Shay on December 26, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Jack Howard turned me onto 2114's for my Jet many years ago. I bought all the AOs I could get my hands on. Just checked the closet and found 42 of them.....   :bigsmyl:  

Danny
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: CDR on December 26, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
Oh Ric O'Shay I am jealous.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: ron w on December 26, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
I like them cause when I started they were state of the art arrows and I couldn't afford them on my dishwashers pay...lol. I still like them, but I shoot wood mostly now.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: outbackbob48 on December 26, 2009, 02:58:00 PM
I liked them because they were orange. I hate camo arrows , somethings should be camo but not things I,m trying not to lose such as flashlight, tp, and arrows. Why would I pay more for artifical wannabe wood legacy arrows. Look like cheap artifical wood. Almost as bad as faux fur. UUUUUUR. Bring back all the sizes an orange color.8>}  Bob
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Pepper on December 30, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
Orange...........vitamin "C"......Thy're healthy.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: NDTerminator on December 30, 2009, 11:27:00 AM
I always cut the saged nock end off and put on uni-bushings...
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: JEFF B on December 30, 2009, 12:34:00 PM
yup i have seen those we even had em over here at some stage. why do they change  good things that work i just dont understand em at all. oh well i guess thats why they call it progress   :D
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: smokin joe on December 30, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
They looked good in the fall woods.
They were also darn good arrows, much more user-friendly and far better than what Easton is making now -- better looking too.
I have a few AO 2117's and 2016's left from the old days.
I am shooting nothing but wood arrows now, but I would probably shoot autumn orange Eastons too if I could get them.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: rickshot on December 30, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
Well, nothing wrong with the nostalgia stuff, especially when you can look back and realize you were growing up, along with Easton. Be that as it may, I pulled out a '68 Bear and an '81 Easton catalog to see if I could find something better than my memory...which was the easy part.

In the '68 Bear catalog Easton 24SRT's were still available, as were XX75's and X7's. I have a number of 24SRT's...they are bare aluminum with no added color. The only mention of color was "full length olive drab shaft color, extra.....doz. $1.50." Also listed were Bear Magnum Arrows, which were "made of a special tough alloy to Fred Bear's specifications."

From a 1982 Bear Archery ad, the Bear Metric Magnums specs state X-7 alloy with a "Sylvan Brown Hard Coating. Non-corrosive, will not wear off. Most other arrows are only anodized." (I have both Magnums and Metric Magnums...finish is similar, numbering system changed.)  

However, more to the point regarding the Autumn Oranges, in the '81 Easton catalog specs are given for the Autumn Oranges and the Gamegetters, of the day. The Gamegetters were 2024 alloy with 8000 lbs. less tensile strength and were dull olive green with soft anodized finish. The Autumn Oranges, stronger 7075 alloy and had a hard anodized finish.        

Of course, these few references offer less than a complete story, but it seems a fairly clear indication that coating/anodizing aluminum shafts was evolving. Aside from Bear Magnums (which I also favor), Autumn Oranges and Gamegetters were what many hunters had to choose from...and between the two, Autumn Orange was the winner, hands down. Also, in 1980 X7's were made with 7178 alloy, placing AO's in the mid-price range.

All things considered Autumn Oranges won the day, and still continue to deliver superb performance. IMO, they rank high on the all-time "if it ain't broke don't fix it" list. Rick.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: outbackbowhunter on January 01, 2010, 10:55:00 PM
The best aluminum arrow has yet to be built by Easton.

I would like to see a legacy shaft with a swaged front end and a loose uni nock system for the back end.

That is to trim the back of the shaft for length and a factory swaged taper up front for the broadheads.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Mountainboy on January 02, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
I just thought they blended in with autumm better...  :)
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: Shooty1 on January 03, 2010, 01:59:00 AM
I like having arrows that are a solid, visible color just for the sake of easily checking alignment while shooting. Bright arrows are visible in low-lit woods, or at least more visible than faux woodgrain or black.
Title: Re: What makes autumn orange Gamegatters so good?
Post by: L. E. Carroll on January 03, 2010, 02:39:00 AM
I gave my hunting partner a full dozen AO 2219's.. [ new full length shafts ] last summer and I know he was sure tickled to get them.. They look great on his SR Swift and sure shoot nice.. what more is there to like???

Gene  :wavey: