I have been having some shoulder issues. I had to drop my draw weight down. I had been looking at the F/D cruve of the longbows. it seemed to me that the not having all the preload of recuvre limbs would be jus tthe ticket for my shoulder.
I had ask Mike and Jason at Dryad bows to build me a set of longbow limbs for my ILF riser.
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Yep they did. 43#@28" 61" AMO on the 17" Dalaa a 58" string gave me a 7.5" BH. bamboo core, clear glass. these limbs are 26.5" butt to tip. sent a 365gr AD trad lite 188fps at a 29" draw (fingers).
Very well mannered limbs. Has that smooth top of the line longbow feel to the draw. as for as my shoulder is concerned the limbs worked out better than I excepted.
The Dalaa and the Dryad limbs make a ncok busting pair. I didn't have to float a bank loan to pay for them either :) .
rusty
schweeeett!!
Thats just cool.
Mke and Jason are going to put the limbs in their line. I am not sure of all the details. After the first of the year they will post the details. I got a 50#@28" pair order to use on bigger pigs. :) .
These were the short limbs. the medium and long were a little faster. I saw a 15" wooden ILF riser they have in the works. it and the short limbs would make such a dandy pop up blind bow.
rusty
I ask you "Just how cool is that?" Answer..way!!! That will satisfy your "traddiction"!
Thanks for sharing Rusty.
God bless,Mudd
I tried the limbs on several different ILF riser. Here is one of my favorite risers. A DAS Elite 21". Made a 65" bow. I screwed the limb botls in till I got 43# on my fingers and a even tiller. Soooooo sweet. This is my small pig kit.
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rusty
Nice. :thumbsup:
dang nice rig there Rusty! seeing you and Mudd post seems like the old days... :)
That one arrow with the big Simmons head should do the job for sure!
Bob
Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't have sold my Dalaa!!!!
Hey that is real neet stuff. I like the looks of your pig setup! :thumbsup:
I shot that combo yesterday with Rusty's riser. Dang it is amazing. I was shooting 1" groups at 18 yds and it was smoking.
Got a little tweeking too do but the longbow limbs will be ready for production on the 3rd of January.
Mike
If you are interested here is look a the strung and unstrung profile. I shoot the Dalaa off the shelf and the Elite off a flipper and plunger
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rusty
The Dalaa now has a little longer string on it (58"). it dropped the BH to 7.5". Endless loop 10 strands of 452X, padded loops and padded center serving to fit nocks. I made the same string for the Elite Kit. You have never ever heard a quieter sting walking bow. Yes I not only shoot longbows limbs off a metal riser but I string walk the 65" bow :) .
the Simmons BH arrow is a just incase arrow. Has a steel adpator, weight tubes and weighs in at 620 grs. Mike shot it out of the bow yesterday. I told him it shot a bit lower. He put his shot about 1" above the dot. The arrow does penetrate.....just in case.
rusty
Here is almost profile shot of the bow at full draw. I think mike, the Big Bear, was right at his 29" draw when the pic was snapped. He was only canting his bow a degree or two so the picutre is pretty valid.
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There is a place some where that the short limbs are gonna be... well ah.... short. they sure go thru 29" with no problems, this is the first string a little longer. when I made the lighter string that lowered the BH the bow picked up 2 - 3 fps extra speed
rusty
rusty
Since the limbs are a true ILF limbs you can just let your mind go wild :) . We tried the limbs on a Spigarelli Evoultion barebow 23" riser.
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Produces a 67" bow smooth as silk. set the draw weight at 38# and the tiller even. There is not a safe foam target around. :)
rusty
I really liked shooting the Spigarelli, it has the lines of a one piece but shoots like the high tech riser that it is. Man was I stacking arrows with that combo.
We are going to start taking orders for the limbs on Jan, 4 and will offer 3 lengths, shorts (like Rusty's), mediums (2" longer ntn) and longs (4" longer ntn).
We also can do custom lengths if you need something special.
Mike
Those limbs look great at Mike's 29" draw,bet they would go another inch or two without stackin! Very nice!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Neat! I didn't know that Dryad would make limbs for the ILF. I always liked the ILF phelonic/wood risers, but have never seen limbs in the weight I like. If Dryad could make them, I might be interested again.
And while I personnally am not a fan of the metal risers, I have to admit when they are set up with a good set of limbs (i.e. bamboo cores) their performance is flawless. Enjoy shooting it!
I'm wondering? How do you guys think those limbs would work with a 25 inch Hoyt Gold medalist Riser? This has me thinking. I have a Hoyt riser I really like but would have no idea at all what length or weight of limb to order to end up with 40 pounds at 28 inches. Hmmm. :)
We can make them in the length and weight you want. Rusty has a 25" riser we can test them on and I have a 23".
How long do you want the bow ntn?
Mike
gapmater - I can help you with that if you want. The short limbs set up on your 25" Gold Medalist would give you a 69" bow. Mike built my limbs at 40#@28" on a 19" riser. I have a gold medalist risr also. The limbs draw 34#@28" on that riser. I made a 67" string to use with the GM.
I don't know what standard Mike and Jason will use for their limbs but you gain or lose about 1# per inch from the legend written on the limbs. If 19" was the standard you would need 46#@28" to get 40# 25H 69". I have shot my limbs on several 25" FITA risers. To test the stability and accraucy I put them on my full FITA Brenardini Aladin with a AGF Safari sight, vee bar and long rod. 20 yds indoors I was knocking on 280 which is as good as I can shoot.
edit for correction - sorry that is a 66" string. 12/24/09 8:30 pm
rusty
That is pretty cool, Rusty. Mike, I like the limbs on that bow. I would like to shoot a bow like that one of these days.
Mostly just for visually effect :) I tried the longbow lmbs out on a Hoyt Game Master. The surprise was mine, While the bow looks a little Star Wars like, it shot very well. I am using a springy rest. I shot the bow with a pin sight, string walking, and instinctive. Bow shot very well any style I tried.
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with the Game Master you have to snug the limb bolts down. So there is no adjustment for tiller or draw wieght.
rusty
this is great i have pinnacle2 and GM2 that could use some upraded limbs. the spigarelli really does get me thinking. this post is cool
Steve,
Give us a call in January and we'll hook ya up.
Mike
i will mike thanks steve
Trashwood, that's some great information, thank you much.
Mike, I'm thinking something like 66 inches. I will be contacting you for sure. I have been looking for something like this for some time. It is getting me excited actually. :) Talk with you soon. Don :)
gap - I am not sure you will get a 66" bow with IFL longbow limbs and a 25" riser. that would mean you would have to have about 1.5" taken off each limb lenght. that would be a 24" limb. If you draw is 26 or 27 inches it might work. if it is 28 to 29 or greater I am not real sure it would happen. A 23" riser would give you 67" bow and a 21 would give you 65" bow with the short limbs.
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here is a pic of my gold medalist when I was messing with it. I had the limb bolts (limb butt trollies set at the minimum. the 67 in string shown was about right. I took the bow out to the field range. I started cranking the the limbs bolts to see if I could get a nice light traget arrow on the point into to the traget rings at 80 yds. when you tighten down or losen the limb bolts you dan lose your BH. It takes a bit of fiddling to get things set optimumal. I like fiddling with the bows so it doesn't seem like a chore to me. Looks like I neeed about a 5/8" longer string now.
When you get the Dryad limbs bolted down a bit and working pretty hard they really come to life. Looks like I am going to be 12 o'clock hiogh ion the 80 yd but a couple of rings in from the edge.
rusty
as you can see I get the limbs bolts tightend down pretty good. well all i could tighten them down and still maintain my even tiller. I didn't weigh them with a digi scale, just an old dial scale. they were somewhere around 38 39 40 pounds,
rusty
Rusty, I see what your talking about and it makes sense. I'm not opposed to a longer bow at all. It sounds like these limbs shoot really well for you.I cannot tell from your pics, but do they have black glass? I have 3 Gold Medalist's so I guess you can see I like that riser. A good set of longbow limbs just sounds like plain fun to me. I saw a set of longbow limbs on a Quinn Stallion sometime back and I thought that was cool too. I'm like you in the fact that I like to tinker, so this sounds like alot of fun for me. I will be contacting mike for sure real soon right after the holiday to see if he can help me out. Keep in touch man, I'm interested in hearing more as you experiment. Thanks, Don
Hey! you guys are havin just too much fun! :)
Hmmm... I didn't ask my wife for anything in particular for Christmas.... yet!
Ron
Gap,
Rusty's limbs are bamboo with clear glass. We are finishing up a set of heavier hunting limbs for him in the bamboo and black.
I thought I had a pic of the his limbs but everything is from the side as we shoot them.
Mike
well then my question is on my 19" pinn. 2would i get the short ones sounds like they would come out at 64-65 inches? my ILF quest started with the GM riser trad tech 50#ers bolted on came out to a 70ish inch bow 70 + or - a pound what a .
Thats really neat...I'm not a metal riser fan but I think your set up could convert me...lol.!!
Ron,
There are quite a few nice wood and glass or phenolic ILF risers available. Our 15" will be ready in a couple of months.
Mike
here is a front view of my Numboro Uno :) Dryad ILF longbow limbs. I really like the natural camo of the clear glass/bamboo limbs.
Some time we need to talk about the different limb fixtures and how to change them. The topic may be outside the scope of topics allowed by TG, not sure. Maybe we can get Connie to take some photos of the easy process to change the various limbs fixtures (Hoyt Game Masters, DAS/Dalaa, and ILF) and post them on a how to page on the Dryad web site.
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Rusty
can we see pretty please
It is legal to hunt pigs at night over bait in Texas. I have got a honey hole that has a much bigger pig population than it can support. Mike and I have lowered the population some but not near enough :) . You have to be able to hit the pig ON THE SPOT because they are in really thick sutff. My "tactical" rig is one of the rason I wanted the light draw longbow ILF limbs. Over time we have found that if you take out sexually immature females you can better control the population. Here is my "Tactical" with the Dryad ILF longbow limbs
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Hawglite, SRF sight, String tracker and bracket. The rig is a tack driver
rusty
Hey great!! Thanks Rusty for the pics of the limbs.
Mike
That Evolution riser is just incredible - I love the lines in it. I'm really looking forward to the ILF series, Mike - performance and Dryad go hand in hand, this will just add a new dimension to the equation.
Chris,
We are real excited about it and just thrilled at the performance we are getting from the limbs. The riser is progressing and should be available in a couple of months at the latest.
Longbow limbs are available too order on Jan. 4.
Mike
very cool Rusty !!!
i love the versatility of ILF set ups .
Least ya think I am teasing you. Here is the first sounder of the night gathered around the tube feeding with a 45 degree elbow at the bottom. Our stand was 9 yds from the feeder. it was hard to pick a spot because there were so many, hard to focus. the SRF sight makes you frame the spot. Ya need to be able to put the arrow thru the heart so they go down as quickly as a pig will. we are in a square mile of very dense privet bush.
The trail cam took 256 pictures that night. I think is wa 4 different sounders. As i recall Mike made an attempt at counting the different pigs but I don't recall the number.
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It is a great set up for a pair of fast quite longbow limbs. Jst wait till the pig get his head in the 45 degree elbow. Ya'll be bbg soon.
rusty
I have been shooting the Dryad ILF longbow limbs for two or three weeks now. The dalaa/dyrad with a short doniker on it has a physical weight of 2# 14 oz. the longbow limbs and riser are very kind to my shoulder. Infact the rig is dead in the hand on release. The riser absorbs most of the energy from the release. the Dryad limbs have no shock but the fact that your bone and muscle goes instantly from holding 43# to holding 2#14oz can put a lot of stress on the old orthopedic processes.
with shoulder issues you have to find the optimum weight between the physical weight of the bow and the bows ability to absorb the release momentum. 2#14oz is a prefect for me.
The force draw curve of the longbow did indeed make it musch easier for me to shoot. I must have a shoulder spur that catches right when the recurve limbs start loading at 1/8 draw. the longbow limbs let me get past that into the power triangle with no pain.
I am good to go for a few more years. :) I got thank my best freind and hunting buddy Mike (and Jason) for putting the time and brain power into the project. I don't think having to listen to me whinning all the time had anything to do with it :)
rusty
Yep Rusty it's been a fun project and has yielded surprising results. I believe folks are really going to enjoy shooting the ILF risers with longbow limbs.
We are going to be working on Static Curve limbs in a couple of styles in the ILF format also.
Mike
educational and exciting.ILF has caught my attention i have tradtech longbow limbs now any pionters/dvd/articles with lots of pics on ILF setup ?
the DVD Maters of the Barebow Vol II has quite abit about hunt with an ILF rig but not lonbbow limbs per sa. Mostly the only difference is ya have to come up with a BH and a string lenght. you have to set the tiller on ture ILF riser. I shoot an even tiller.
I had to set the BH on a pair of Trad Tech longbow limbs a littel higher than you'd think to get them work out. It was after I bought a pair of Trad Tech Loingbow limbs that I started really tring to get Mike and Jason interested in the project. The only thing I could find out there was $600 limbs which is just way above the price of a hunting limb. I don't know for sure what Dryad's finaly price will be but I paid $325 for this pair. clear glass, bamboo core. the same limb they are making for their orion so they have a lot of experinece with it.
The production limb is going to have a micarta wedge and mine had wood. So the final price might be differnet but it will still be in range that would justify the price of hunting limbs.
I don't know if TG will allow a thread about setting up the ILF longbow limbs on an ILF riser. If you have question or need help tring posting the question and I'll try to help you. I have had a good bit of experience setting the Trad Tech and the Dryad on various risers testing them out.
rusty
Rusty,
The base price is set. Bamboo core, black glass, micarta wedges and overlays. . . $300. Clear glass option +$25.
We are going to offer veneers and such on our custom ILF bows with our riser.
Mike