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Title: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: buckeyebowhunter on December 23, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
Hey guys my dad and i were looking at some black widow Short Recurves and PL longbows. But the web site doesnt have very good pictures of either bows. I was wondering how many of you guys shoot these bows what are your thoughts and if you have any pictures could you please post. Thanks.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: gilf on December 23, 2009, 11:06:00 AM
I don't have any pictures but I have owned both a Black Widow short recurve and a PL.

Mine were older so didn't have the P prefix. Both were excellent bows, the recurve was a little too short for me so I sold that. The longbow was great, one thing worth a mention is the grip which was a little fuller than most longbows I have tried.

Just found a couple of pictures but there are not very good I'm afraid.

 (http://www.gilfster.com/archery/widow_1.jpg)  (http://www.gilfster.com/archery/widow_2.gif)
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Dave Lay on December 23, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
I have owned 3 or 4 PL's and currently have a 64 inch 60@28 PLV take down, the pl's have a diffrent grip than Gilf's  post, alot slimmer,I am sure some one will post up some pics, they are a excellent bow, I dont think you can go wrong with a pl.. I havent shot a psr though
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: JRY309 on December 23, 2009, 11:28:00 AM
Grips are a personal choice,I much prefer the grip on the newer PL longbow grip over the grip of the older LAG longbows.But that is me and what I like.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Dsturgisjr on December 23, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/Ibows.jpg)

These are my PLs. I've had good luck with them since they were prototypes.

Top down:
PLX td graybark crossgrain
PLX td osage
PLX td autumn oak crossgrain
PLX td osage (extra grainy)
PL III td painted (they hate it when you do that   :)  )
PLX td bocote

The PSRs I've shot were handy feeling, but I'm just more of a longbow person.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: swp on December 23, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
Had an LIW longbow (predecessor to the PL) and I liked it. Bought a PSR and now it is my go to bow!
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r27/sparson_bucket/08BearHunt015.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r27/sparson_bucket/100_0570.jpg)
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Mike Burch on December 23, 2009, 12:03:00 PM
buckeye,

I've owned both at the same time and they are great bows. They both were the greybark models. The PSR was a little quicker and the PL was a little quieter. They shot very similiar to me...easy to switch back and forth.

Mike
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: rolltidehunter on December 23, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
i just bought the PLII "GrayBark". it is so smooth and so quiet. ill send you a pic throught email. i cant figure out how to post a pic on this here
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: wscruggs on December 23, 2009, 12:44:00 PM
I think after the first of the year they are going to come out with another short bow. It is supposed to be a shortened psa riser.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: sj_lutz on December 23, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
I've got a 56 inch PSR III and am very happy with it.  It's 50lb @ 28 inches, were I to do it again (and I probably will at some point) I'd go with a 58 inch length.  


(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/sj_lutz/IMG_0841.jpg)

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/sj_lutz/IMG_0842.jpg)
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Mike Manassa on December 23, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
I have a 58" PSRX Osage 48#@28"..Only bow I own..Very smooth and stable..Mike
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Junglecat on December 23, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
I have a 56 in. PSR III that is 53 lb. at 26.5 inches.(Approx. 57 to 58 pounds at 28 inches.)Nice bow and one of two Widows I own.I will probably sell this sometime in the near future as I have a problem with my left shoulder.Love the bow just need a lighter draw weight.My other Widow is a TF and is 49 pounds at 28 inches.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: L82HUNT on December 23, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
The PSR and PL will shoot within 3 or 4fps of eachother.   IMO the PL is a better shooting bow.  Although neither is noisy, the PL is quieter.  And more forgiving.
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/100_5311.jpg)

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/102_4884.jpg)
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: stickbow04 on December 24, 2009, 12:00:00 AM
i test drove both bows in 05, loved then both,but only could get one[ $ ] so I went with psrv 58" 58# @27 very smoth & does not stack, great for ground blinds. and the guys at BW stand behind it 100%
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: frassettor on December 24, 2009, 05:51:00 AM
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/frassettor/DSC00496.jpg)
I love my PL's. Very smooth, and enjoyable to shoot
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Jim Picarelli on December 24, 2009, 06:47:00 AM
I have a 64" PLV,50@27 and a 58" PSRV,52@27. I can pick up either one and shoot without a hitch.The PSR is my go-to bow though
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Skinner on December 24, 2009, 06:52:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Blutck/IMG_0359.jpg)

Rear RHS
58" PSRII, 52 @ 28.
58" PSRX Bocote, 60 @ 28.

Front LHS
64" PLGA, 60 @ 28 with Beavertail Grip.
62" TD PLX Quilted Maple, 53 @ 28" with BT Grip.

Front RHS
First bow is not a BW but a 58" RF/DF made by mikecc (Mike Bird from UT) of this forum.
62" TD PLX Tulipwood, 60 @ 28" with BT Grip.
62" PLX Kingwood, 57 @ 28" with BT Grip.
62" TD PLX Osage, 52 @ 28" with BT Grip.

Skinner
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Pegen on December 24, 2009, 07:37:00 AM
I've owned both. I've sold both. I bought another PL, shorter and lighter 62", 57@28 instead of 64", 63@28. It shoots great. I would consider buying another 58" PSR for these "tight spots" hunts.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: buckeyebowhunter on December 24, 2009, 08:03:00 AM
Thanks guys those are some great pics. I love the looks of the PSR's. My only fear is that because I am used to shooting longer recurves that i would have trouble switching to the shorter PSR.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Skinner on December 24, 2009, 08:12:00 AM
The riser on both the PSR / PL are identical so switching back and forth is a breeze.
Title: Re: PSR and PL Black Widows
Post by: Igor on December 24, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
I've owned both and both are great bows. IMHO the PL is less sensitive to poor technique and easier to be consistent with. But if you don't struggle like I do with those things the PSR is a great hunting bow.


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