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Title: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: mrpenguin on December 16, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
Had anyone used the Razorhead?  Just curious how they cut?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: bear1336 on December 16, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
IMO the best Broadhead ever produced, I always used the bleeder blades with them. Makes a massive cut resulting in a great blood trail.
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: Terry Green on December 16, 2009, 10:24:00 AM
I think they proved their lethality decades ago.  Can't imagine the number of animal fallen to them.
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Post by: shakeyslim on December 16, 2009, 10:26:00 AM
i still have some and use the with perfect effect!   :goldtooth:
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Post by: Big Bird on December 16, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
It's all I use killed my buck this year with one.
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Post by: Mudd on December 16, 2009, 10:44:00 AM
I'm not all that excited about the stainless steel types but just love the older green heads. almost all of my hunting arrows are tipped with them.

God bless,Mudd
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Post by: Raineman on December 16, 2009, 10:46:00 AM
As Terry stated, they have without a doubt proven themselves.

I got my first trad deer last year with one without the bleeder blade. Did its job well. I lost one this year with one (also without bleeder blade), but I think it was a result of it sticking solidly in a shoulder bone (dang deer STILL hasn't returned my arrow    :mad: )

Since then I have added the bleeder blade, but have not had an opportunity to "test" it.

I really like the way they fly in their 2 blade configuration. I feel more confident in hitting what I'm aiming at with them as opposed to others I have practiced with.

Anyway, don't know if all this rambling answers your question, but I like 'em.
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Post by: frank bullitt on December 16, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
Yes great head, easy to sharpen, like them old high carbon blade knives, of yesteryear.

Shot my second deer with one in the eighties, and a big 8 pt. 3 years ago with one. And a bunch of other critters in between!

Dennis Jackson, aka "Adeeden" shot his bigun with a Razorhead, check it out!

If you got 'em, shoot 'em!

Steve
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Post by: longbowman on December 16, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
I've killed more than 30 whitetails, mule deer, elk and bear with them.  If they still made glue on heads it would be the only one I would use.
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: George D. Stout on December 16, 2009, 11:26:00 AM
mrpenguin, I'm guessing you are relatively new to the sport, as the Bear Razorhead needs no Billy Mays or Jimmy Football sales pitch to prove its metal.

How about, elephant, rhino, cape buffalo, lion, tiger, and myriad other ultra large game taken efficiently over a 53 year period?  That should tell you.

Now, if you need new input, I will tell you they have worked very well for me for over 45 years.
They are very easy to sharpen in the field, durable, and have built-in mojo...whatever that is 8^).

Now about the brand new ones, that don't even look like real Bear Razorheads, and aren't made by Bear Archery?   No comment.

And, the old green/tan ones are readily available if you keep an eye out.  Bear could make millions of them every year; the Bear Razorhead machine spit one out every five seconds.
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Post by: 4runr on December 16, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
They worked for me this year. I used one made over 50 years ago to take a nice fat button buck, shot out of a 50 year old Bear Grizzly.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/SA400236-1.jpg)
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Post by: straitera on December 16, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
Greenies are to archery what 30/30 is to guns. Half my arrows are tipped with them.
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Post by: Brent Hill on December 16, 2009, 11:57:00 AM
The only broadheads I use. In texas, in africa and canada.  On pigs, deer, kudu and cottontails.  They just work.  I shoot the 64's, and the 145 grain stainless and both shoot perfectly.  I love how compared to today's high speed manufactured broadheads, the older bear razorheads look like they were put together by drunk 3rd graders, especially the newer 145's.  However, they  are more accurate and perform as well as any of the new stuff.  I have put a tanto tip on all of mine and have had no issues with bad flight or altered point of impact.  Since I have already bought up my lifetime supply of them for about $ 3 to $ 4 a head, I'll advise you to get em while you can.
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Post by: bowhunterfrompast on December 16, 2009, 12:30:00 PM
The Bear Razorhead is an excellent broadhead. They fly true, easy to sharpen in the field and like George said, they have mojo.
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Post by: mnbwhtr on December 16, 2009, 12:32:00 PM
I was told they quit making the inserts, anybody no of a supply?
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Post by: Blackstick on December 16, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
I don't shoot to kill very often, but I do shoot and practice quite a bit with the Razorhead. They fly better than anything else I have tried.
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Post by: JEFF B on December 16, 2009, 01:56:00 PM
i have about a 1/2 a doz and i have had them since 1978 and i still got em they do an awesome job on any thing i have shot.
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Post by: LV2HUNT on December 16, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
I was shooting the blue ones (145gr) for awhile and they worked very well for me. When they were discontinued I switched to Zwickeys and they have not performed nearly as well as the Razorheads.
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: swamper on December 16, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
still using 20 plus years old,still taking deer with them
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: elbow on December 16, 2009, 06:59:00 PM
Shot my first two trad deer with them this year. The first was a doe in Vermont without the bleeder, double lunged, 30 yards dead. The second was a 7 point in Ohio, spined him at 26 yards with the first shot, dropped immediatly, the broadhead was bent and the bleeder broke off [as it was designed to do] I then shot this deer again to finish him off, a second razorheade with the bleeder, the arrow went completely through the deer and was laying on the ground on the other side. Blood everywhere, bleeder was not affected. These two kills were with a 49lb bow and a 32 inch long 2117 arrow. I think that is quite impressive. BTW, a frend is selling me 29 bear arrows with razorheads attached, some with inserts, that should give me a lifetime supply. Awesome!
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Post by: hayslope on December 16, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
I don't have any recent experience with them (used them in the 60's and 70s), but I can tell you one thing, a person certainly wouldn't want to take bets that there is a broadhead out there that has taken more game!  Back in the day, it was the easiest broadhead to get your fingers on (sometimes the ONLY one available)and it certainly did its job.
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Post by: duck'n on December 16, 2009, 07:13:00 PM
Killed my first archery deer with one back in the late 80's..the bow had wheels (ssshhhh!) but it was old school with no sights, release, dropaway rest, nada...just a flipper.  I also forgot my tab that morning so I had to shoot bare-fingers.  Broadhead took out both lungs and top of heart, little central TX doe ran all of 30 yards and piled up in sight.  I love the Razorheads!
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Post by: vtmtnman on December 16, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
I can get them insane sharp with stones and some water,they fly awesome when mounted properly.

10 yard shot though both lungs and into the dirt from a 70's 50# Grizzly,40 yards and the death roll was heard.Can't tell you how the blood trail was because I didn't need to look for one.  ;)  

I have a spiffy new Silvertip,but I see no need for spiffy new BH's.  :readit:  

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/vtmtnman/IMG_1193.jpg)
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Post by: sweeney3 on December 16, 2009, 08:50:00 PM
All I use.  They are great.  Eventually they will all get shot away, but as long as I can find them, they'll be on all my arras.  That being said, there are LOTS of nice broadheads out there, but I just plain like the Bears.
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Post by: adeeden on December 16, 2009, 09:40:00 PM
I love the old "greenies" I have taken quite a few whitetails, a couple hogs and a mule deer with them. For me They are super easy to sharpen and hold an edge very well and fly perfect. I know most folks file sharpen them but I prefer to sharpen them on a good stone. I am constantly on the look out for them when I'm out and about, not too hard to find but the price just keeps going up for them in most cases!
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Post by: jcar315 on December 16, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
I would echo what others have already stated. Every manner and size animal has been taken with a Razorhead.

IMO Fred was just a pure genius....not only did he design the Razorhead but he disigned the machine that BUILT them too!!!
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: eman614 on December 16, 2009, 10:19:00 PM
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss60/eman614/bowpictures168.jpg) whadda ya think
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: mrpenguin on December 17, 2009, 06:23:00 AM
Wow! That's a lot of feedback!  I was originally referring to the 'new' Trophy Ridge Razorheads, mainly b/c I need to get my new arrows tipped with a good, sharp out of the box broadhead for the next few weeks of the season.  I bought a pack yesterday cause my buddy at the shop was basically giving them away... they are stupid sharp, and fly OK... I don't think I'd shot over 18yds with them.  That all said, I am going to see if I can find some greenies too on line!!

Thanks gents and good hunting.
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Post by: Jeremy on December 17, 2009, 07:19:00 AM
The new Razorheads don't resemble the old Bears.  Completely different geometry.  They should work fine; they're not overly short and fat so penetration shouldn't go down much over the old Bear geometry, but I think their durability is suspect just based on the design.  You don't really need a broadhead to hold up after a few shots through animals (or in the dirt) but it gives you peace of mind if heavy bone is encountered and for the price they should be bomb-proof.  The ones I handled were anything but sharp out of the package... a pretty course grind actually.

I still shoot razorheads my dad was using in the 60's!  THAT is durability!
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: mrpenguin on December 18, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
Jeremy,

Thanks for the input... yeah, I was shocked they shaved outta the package... but they did!  They shoot pretty good, don't think I will continue to use them next year, but I got them for cost and they will get the job done.  I like the Phantom SS with bleeders and am looking for the classic greenies for next season!  I also my just go with a single bevel blade... or the Woodsman ELites, they look pretty nice!!  Anyway, thanks for the input!
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Post by: sleepingbear on December 18, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
my favorite. I took more animals with the old bear broadheads than all the others combined.  I would love to get a hold of some more.
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Post by: NumPls on December 18, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
Guys from my club have told me that they like the old, carbon steel ones, but do not like the newer stainless steel ones. At least one guy had trouble getting the new ones to fly correctly (and, consistently) - they seemed to plane on him.

Ray
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: on December 18, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
The old "greenies" are one of the best BHs ever made. They sharpen well, fly well, hold an edge and are lethal on game. I'm still recycling some Razorheads that I've had since the 1970's. The SS ones are worthless.
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: mrpenguin on December 18, 2009, 12:35:00 PM
Ray,  

Your comments are interesting b/c I think I have the same issue... ugh... I need to go shoot 'em after work today and see how they fly, if the flight is no good, I'll just use my Phantom SS... they fly true and are razor sharp.

Honestly, I wish I could just get my Eclipse SB's to sharpen up... but they are just stubbernly difficult to get shaving sharp...
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Post by: George D. Stout on December 18, 2009, 02:58:00 PM
Which new ones are you talking about.  The ones currently being sold don't resemble the old Razorheads.  The old greenies and even the 145 grain blue stainless introduced in the 80's fly beautifully.  These new things don't look like any old Bear I ever used.  Here is what they are calling a Bear Razorhead now.....not the same by a long shot.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/a-2.jpg)
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Post by: Bill Turner on December 18, 2009, 04:14:00 PM
The old green Bear Razorheads rest on all of my current hunting arrows. Couple those heads with my Howard Hill LB and you have a killing combination. I would not touch the new ones with a stick. As the man said above they don't even look like the original Bear Razorhead.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Two Arrows on December 18, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
The blue Razorheads seem to get some negative reviews, but I have shot them alot and have never had a problem with them. Fly great for me and easy to sharpen.
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Post by: vtmtnman on December 18, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
I've shot the new ones and they've never planed for me.And that was at wheel bow speeds.I've also shot them from my recurves and had good experience as well.

Most will not touch them here because they're not the old greenies.To each their own I spose.
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Post by: Charles K. on December 18, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
I still use them....they fly great and are easy to sharpen.
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Post by: hawkeye n pa on December 18, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
Another fan of the older carbon steel style Bear Razor braodhead.
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Post by: varmint101 on December 18, 2009, 07:40:00 PM
I don't trust Trophy Ridge or I'd try the new ones.

I'm not a 2 blade guy, but I sure would like to try these(and a couple others) next season.
Title: Re: Bear Razorheads-Any Thoughts on Performance?
Post by: Hoser1268 on December 18, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
Is there anywhere you can get the older heads.  I would love to get some 145"s
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Post by: rp65 on December 18, 2009, 08:12:00 PM
They would have stopped making them if didn't have people to buy them that liked them.
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Post by: Chuck Hoopes on December 18, 2009, 08:23:00 PM
Been my favorite over the years-- I sharpen the inserts.
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Post by: sweeney3 on December 18, 2009, 10:30:00 PM
Just got a button with the old Bears this evening.  Still love em.
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Post by: Derwood on December 19, 2009, 12:03:00 AM
Exactly what Two Arrows said.  

I loved the blue ones.  They shot so well for me.  Plus, they bring back lots of memories of hunting with my uncles in the 80's.  I wish they still made them or I could get my hands on some.  

The new ones...  Yuck!  LOL!!!
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Post by: Lucas K on December 19, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
I hadn't heard that the razorhead had been sold?
Lucas
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Post by: john fletch on December 19, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
I have been using them since 1964.  Getting hard to find inserts.  If they are no longer made they should be.  I use another B/H more now, but it has been discontinued as well.  It has the bleeder blades built in and is tougher than the Bear, but the bear is easy to sharpen and the insert blade is handy to quick change.
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Post by: TonyW on December 19, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
Nice to use something almost as old as I am and twice as sharp!
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Post by: varmint101 on December 19, 2009, 06:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Lucas K:
I hadn't heard that the razorhead had been sold?
Lucas
Here's who owns them now.    http://www.trophyridge.com/broadheads/