A couple of months ago, or so, I started shooting a couple of bows that are around 74-75 pounds at my draw length that is a tad over 29". I must have a pretty rough release, because I have to use .300 spine carbon shafts that are cut down to 29.5" to allow me to shoot 200 grain tips out of the recurve and 250 grain tips out of the longbow. I added weight tubes to increase the overall weight some and the arrows are right around 10 gpp. Everything seemed fine until I put on some of the new terminator 3 blade broadheads. When the blade hits my finger on my bow-hand, I still have at least another 1/2" to go with my draw. I just didn't anticipate this when shooting the field tips. I got these arrows at this length and really don't feel like buying new arrows. I wonder if anyone has had this problem before me and how they remedied it? I've seen 25 grain inserts that screw in for adding weight. That might put the blades out in front a little more. I guess an extra long nock or nock insert would do the same thing, but I haven't seen anything like that.
I did pretty much the same thing. Had arrow combinations worked out for three bows, then increased my draw length about 1 1/2". Had to start over with more arrows. At least I can still shoot the old ones with field points.
How do you tune arrows to a new bow on a low budget without spending tons of money?
Deal with a supplier that offers you know how, and personal service. He/she can send you 2-3 shafts in order to help you determine the right shaft or arrow spine for your needs.
Ted at raptorarchery.com can help you out.
A glue-on nock adapter on the rear would give you a little extra length, but not a lot. Maybe Santa could help you out.
Killdeer :archer:
hmm..sounds like a fun one to take to a machinist...he could make a double threaded screw in blunt. One end to screw into the original insert, the other end for your bh.
Another idea might be to change bh's to something that isnt so square on the back, like a 2 blade eskimo (for example) The terminator is pretty flat on the backside.
I always wonder how hill shot target arrows that were an inch or so shorter...if you look you'll notice he pulls his field points right up on the shelf..something you obviously cant do with bh's. I believe John Schulz made a indirect refernce to this very thing in his last book. Anyways that's something for a different thread... ;)
You can always trade your arrows.
having a draw longer than standard arrow shafts, I actually took the idea of footing to another level by using the insert for the footing, rather than the inside shaft. That gives you the length of the insert as an extension. It is not perfect, but pretty effective.
BobW
What brand of Carbons are you using? Might be able to help.
Are the carbons standerd 5/16. If they are i have somthing i can send you that will add 25 grains and 1/2" to the front of your arrow.
The arrows are all 9/32 diameter. I've got ac superslim and axis arrows.
As akDan said you can go to a hardware store (ACE0 in the misc. drawers of bolts they do have double threaded bolts That you can get and use as stated above Just use lock tite on the threads opposite of your arrow spin.It would be a cheap and fun thing to try. I'm gonna buy some and make some blunts.
If you are really stumped on what to do just get a box them in it and my address on it and mail them to me and your problem is solved...LOL
QuoteOriginally posted by pdk25:
The arrows are all 9/32 diameter. I've got ac superslim and axis arrows.
Opps sorry my stuff wont help. Good luck.
Here's a possible solution. THey make and I have (would be willing to send you if I can find) adaptors for wooden arrows that allow you to screw in a screw in broadhead. You could screw in a regular BH adaptor, then glue on the adaptor for wooden arrows and then screw in the broadhead. Just might give you another inch of length.
Bowmania
A product called the Booster is a 1/2" 25 grain insert you screw into your arrow and has a female end for your broadhead, it is .315 diameter, just a little larger than the axis. That may give you enough length but may weaken the arrow. You could add a cap wrap under fletching, and/or larger fletching to stiffen it up a bit. A larger heavier nock, or maybe a lighted nock like luminock(adds about 15 grains) would also add weight stiffening the arrow.
Booster works well for me adding length and increasing foc when I also increased my draw length, it is nice to have an ILF bow so poundage can be adjusted for tune.
Thanks for the suggestions and offers, guys. I may give the booster or wooden arrow adapter a try.
I have "spliced" an extra inch and a half onto my aluminum arrows by putting an insert into a section of shaft small enough to fit inside my 2018's and then gluing a section of 2018 over that to keep the o.d. constant. the spliced piece is about 3" overall length. It adds both length and weight to the front of the shaft. I suspect you could find a similar set up for your carbons. If you'd like details, e-mail me.
Hey Pat, maybe woody weights would work- Get an adapter put the woody on and then the broadheads , that should give you an inch or more plus extra foc to play with- at least I think it would work.
Good luck, Bill
The woody weights come in 5/16 which isn't far from 9/ 32 I know you can do the math
Where can you get woody weights in 5/16"? I thought they only came in 11/32".