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Title: Old age and draw length
Post by: 1Longbow on December 13, 2009, 11:10:00 AM
Now that I that I'm to the point the I can see age 60 coming around the corner,has anyone else noticed a decrease in their draw length? I've been shooting a solid 29 inch draw length for as long as I've been shooting. Lately I've been having trouble with good arrow fight out of the same bow that I've been shooting forever. I had the wife do a measure at full draw 10 times and now I've come up (or down ) to 27 inches,everything feels the same,anchor point and such. Anyone else notice this? --Thanks 1Longbow
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: BWD on December 13, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Could be due to what I call compression. Might want to try a weaker spined arrow or reduce bow poundage?
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Blackhawk on December 13, 2009, 01:07:00 PM
I just turned 62 and have had a 27" draw for years.  After attending Rod Jenkins shooting clinic this past summer and have him critique my form, I've increased my draw almost 2 inches.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Dick in Seattle on December 13, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Speaking as one who has to turn around and look back at the corner to see 70, I'd say yes.  I don't have a geriatric medicine degree to back this up, but it just makes sense.  Muscles are springs, operating by tension vs. relaxation.  As you get older you aren't as strong, because some of the tension goes out of the springs.  If the springs aren't as springy, your movements are shorter.   I know my normal walking stride is shorter than it used to be and it makes sense that some of the things I do with my arms would also come up shorter.  Heck, I AM shorter, my height is down almost an inch and a half from when I was I was in my prime (hmm.. was that last week or last month?  My memory is shorter, too.)  My overall pure strength is way down, but that's age plus a medical reaction, so I'm shooting lighter.   However, looking at the bright side, I have lots more time and I'm enjoying it as much as ever... or more.   There, I've explained the future to you.  Don't thank me, just adjust your shooting and keep enjoying it.  And remember, as Satchel Paige said, "Never look back.  Somethin' might be gaining on you."
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Paul WA on December 13, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
At 61 As long as I draw through the shot my draw length stays just under 30". Remembering to do that is the problem...PR
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: xtrema312 on December 13, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
Could it be just strength and you are not expanding all the way?  Maybe it is time to drop a few pounds so you can fully expand your chest and pull in your shoulders?  That makes a big difference for me.  I was shooting today and my shooting was going all wrong.  I realized I was tired and when I checked my arrow on the bow I saw I was not getting to full draw.  I concentrated on expending and pulling in my shoulder blades, and I was back up to draw length and shooting much better again.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: owlbait on December 13, 2009, 03:14:00 PM
Who are you and why do you keep sending me messages? If 55 is the new 35 then someone screwed up the Math!
Rod Jenkins= longer draw length and more fun shooting. I shoot more and I'm more consistent. Grab that Masters of the Barebow 3 and follow the steps. Get to a clinic and see if it changes. Getting older doesn't have to mean getting shorter, I blame that on my surgeries!
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: ranger 3 on December 13, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
I am 5'10" at 62 years old and I used to be 5'11" I also weight a lot more now than when I was younger. Short and fat er
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: 1Longbow on December 13, 2009, 04:02:00 PM
Thanks for the answers.owlbait ,I've never sent you a message,that I can recall if that was directed at me--1Longbow
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Don Stokes on December 13, 2009, 05:09:00 PM
At 61 I draw the same as I did at 51. However, I shoot less draw weight most of the time. I now have to work harder to draw over 60#, which was no problem at 51. My body like 50# much better than 65# these days, and I have fewer aches and pains with the lighter draw.

On the other hand, I don't feel like I've reached "old age" yet, either!   :)  Listen to some of these guys like Dick who are past 70 and still shooting. I hope to be there in another decade.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Orion on December 13, 2009, 05:16:00 PM
My experience has been the same as Don's, though I'm a few years older.  My draw length hasn't changed, but my bow weight has.  I still have one heavy bow, which I use mostly to exercise/work out.  Definitely have a more difficult time drawing that to my normal draw length, and after 15-20 shots with it, I can eel my draw shortening.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: owlbait on December 13, 2009, 05:35:00 PM
LONGBOW THAT WAS A SHOT AT MYSELF AND MY FADING MEMORY AS I GET OLDER. I TEACH 3rd grade, and I can't concentrate like i use to. Sometimes I forget the cap lock! The serious part was that I increased my draw length this year because of learning and practicing differently then in the past.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: lpcjon2 on December 13, 2009, 06:00:00 PM
I think AARP has a draw length to age chart in the magazine this month...LOL
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Cool Arrow on February 22, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
I'm 72, and I hope my draw length doesn't shrink, cuz I never could draw more than 27". While we're on the subject am I the only one that feels long arms are an advantage in archery. Seems like a lot of the great shots are guys pulling 30" ot more. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.
       Larry
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: jerry r baker on February 22, 2010, 11:11:00 PM
yes the older we get our body compresses
i just think of it as a nother blessing
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 22, 2010, 11:26:00 PM
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am I the only one that feels long arms are an advantage in archery. Seems like a lot of the great shots are guys pulling 30" ot more. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.
Larry  
Howard Hill had a 27" draw.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: 2fletch on February 23, 2010, 08:57:00 AM
I have used the word "compression" numerous times to explain why I don't pull 29" like it used to be. I really believe that age (66 yrs.) can cause a shorter draw length as well as being over bowed. However, the biggest change was when I had to open my stance because of the glasses I wore.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: kat on February 23, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
Aha!!!!  Not trying to hyjack your thread, but 2fletch may have just given me an answer.  
I recently went to glasses, and I am tearing up my nose pretty bad.  Maybe opening up my stance will help my nose to heal up.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: ron w on February 23, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
I'm almost 58,I draw 29". I'm going to the Dr. in 10 minutes to see the results of a MRI on my shoulder.My draw may change shortly....lol.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: metsastaja on February 23, 2010, 09:33:00 AM
I think it may have more to do with being over bowed then loosing draw length. As we age we loose muscle mass and strength.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: craig1955 on February 23, 2010, 09:34:00 AM
I bet you can get that draw length back if you decrease you draw weight.
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Rob DiStefano on February 23, 2010, 09:35:00 AM
shortened draw length due to 'compression'?  no, i don't believe that at all - it's pure muscle conditioning strength, or lack thereof.

i'm 64yo and still have a solid 29" draw length for barebow shootin'.  

draw weight is another story, and 55# is my upper limit these dayze, no more 65# holding weights.  

pulling a 65# bow would instantly 'compress' my draw length to 27"  :D
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Dave Worden on February 23, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
Cool, I think the reason that long-armed guys are better shots is because their arrow starts out closer to the target than ours do!!!!
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: George D. Stout on February 23, 2010, 10:24:00 AM
I'm old enough to be Rob's twin brother, and I agree with what he is saying.    :p  

It's more about conditioning....both body and mind, and most folks tend to let down a little as they get older.  Fifty pounds is wayyyyyy plenty for me nowadays, but I still draw my petite 27 3/4".     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Night Wing on February 23, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
When I was 18 years old, I had a 30" draw length. I'm now 60 years old and my draw length is still 30".
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: cbCrow on February 23, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
I am 60yrs young and when I picked up archery 2yrs ago I discovered that my draw had shrunk by 1 1/2". I thought that it was due to the injuries I suffered. I swithched bows from a ML 10 longbow 55@28 to a Harrelson longbow 36@28 and my draw came back. Evaluate the weight your pulling and you might need to lighten up like I did. By the way, that 36#r does the job, hunting or 3D.  :archer:
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: amar911 on February 23, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
shortened draw length due to 'compression'?  no, i don't believe that at all - it's pure muscle conditioning strength, or lack thereof.
I agree wholeheartedly with Rob. The only thing that caused my draw length to change with age is when I shattered my left collarbone (I shoot right-handed) and it grew back 1/2" shorter. My draw length went from 30" to 29.5". It is hard to get full extension with my heavier bows, but I can build up to it when I need to.

Allan
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Wulomac on February 23, 2010, 12:22:00 PM
I'm nosin' in on 60 years old and draw 30" with my 50#.  Hit the weights and stretch!!
Title: Re: Old age and draw length
Post by: Rob DiStefano on February 23, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
i keep my strung 55# longbow in my office and throughout the day i'll pull it back past my anchor point to my ear.  at least once a day i switch hands and pull lefty a few times.  imo, this is the bestest and most easiest bow weight workout for anyone.