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Title: Water proof boots??
Post by: wtpops on December 12, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
Hello all I have a pair of Danners; I love the fit, comfort. They were advertised as 100% waterproof. Now I don't know what the definition of 100% waterproof is to boot companies but to me it means your feet wont get wet    :saywhat:    less water over the top of the boot and filling it. The problem I have is simply walking through wet grass I get soaked feet from the ankle down the top of the boot is dry because my pant leg keeps the water off of it.

Is this normal?
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Post by: Brian Krebs on December 12, 2009, 09:30:00 PM
gaiters.
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Post by: mmgrode on December 12, 2009, 09:37:00 PM
How long have you had them, Rick?  Leather(even gore tex lined) doesn't stay waterproof forever and needs to be retreated regularly with a conditioner/waterproofing agent.  Nikwax and montana pitch blend are a couple options to try.  I'm sure there are others.  
 Matt
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Post by: Keuka on December 12, 2009, 09:47:00 PM
I've tried alot of different 100% waterproof boots including Danners and if it's leather, it will leak sooner or later. Yes, my feet got wet from the grass too. You can treat them with sealer such as Snow Seal but they'll leak in short order.

I went with leather tops and rubber bottoms. Now my feet stay dry other than sweat.
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Post by: LKH on December 12, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
I've got a pair of Meindls and one leaks.  Have had several pairs of Danners and they all leaked eventually.
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Post by: rappstar on December 12, 2009, 09:53:00 PM
It's pretty nomal especially if you are wearing the Danners with a nylon/cordura upper.  Even more normal if your Danner's aren't one of the few models that are still made in the USA.  

I have a pair of Danner's (all leather and made in the USA) that are pretty darn waterproof.  It takes a couple of days of wet hunting to start leaking.  I use Obenauf's.
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Post by: Keuka on December 12, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
If your at all interested in leather tops and rubber bottoms, check out Hoffman Boots. They have a web site and they make high quality boots.
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Post by: wtpops on December 12, 2009, 10:07:00 PM
There about one year old, treated twice so far with a silcone type water proofing spray and they are made in china. Have had the problem from the start.
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Post by: lpcjon2 on December 12, 2009, 10:11:00 PM
Should have sent them back in the beginning. try sno seal that stuff makes a sponge waterproof.
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Post by: the longbowkid on December 12, 2009, 10:11:00 PM
LL Bean boots!!!! I do a lot of bird hunting, wich involves walking/running constantly,and the woodcock often hang out in swamps:( and when its a dewy morning, you can get soaked to the bone! but the Maine hunting boots, with are waterproofed, keep my feet dry.  they will keep waterout as long as you dont go over the tops.  I am going to start getting them insulated, becase they are preety cold otherwise
check them out on L.L. Bean's website.
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Post by: wtpops on December 12, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
Ill give the sno seal a try.

Thanks guys.
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Post by: Double Tee on December 12, 2009, 10:27:00 PM
You might also try the sno-seal silicon treatment + the sno-seal,it will help carry the sno-seal into the leather after you warm  and apply it. I am in the mud and water all summer and in 30 + years I have tried it all and the sno-seal +  the silicon seems to be the best combo Iv'e tried. And yea the other guys got it,they will all leak later no matter what!
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Post by: Steve Kendrot on December 12, 2009, 11:25:00 PM
Lacrosse burlies. 18 inches of rubber.
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Post by: Broken Arrows on December 13, 2009, 09:02:00 AM
I have the Lacrosse they are great you just need a boot dryer I am out every day hunting with my Gos hawk in all weather I also use them bow hunting.
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Post by: maineac on December 13, 2009, 09:57:00 AM
I am with the Steve and BA.  If I really want waterproof it is my Lacrosse boots.  Grange for early season and spring turkey, and Burley's later with good wool socks.
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Post by: joevan125 on December 13, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Im also with 18in burlies, you cant go wron with these boots.
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Post by: HATCHCHASER on December 13, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Nixwax is the best.  Be carefull with petroleum based waterproofers, they clog the leather pores and make your boots less waterproof.  Use animal base like mink oil.  I use Limmer boot grease and it works better than anything except for the nixwax paste imho.  You have to order the Limmer boot grease but you can pick up the nixwax at most hiking stores.
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Post by: Jim Keller on December 13, 2009, 11:43:00 AM
hey guys. How warm are the burleys. I have the granges and love them. Do the burleys have thinsulate in them and are they comfortable to walk in?
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Post by: Dave Bulla on December 13, 2009, 01:26:00 PM
As far as I know, the test the companies use if you try returning a boot saying it leaks is to take the dry boot and fill it with water and set it aside to see if any leaks out.  If not, they consider it "water proof".  In my personal experience, there is no such thing as a water proof leather boot and no such thing as waterproofing for leather.  There are products that slow down the water but none stop it.  Gore tex lined boots are water proof but it's not the leather keeping it out, it's the gore tex.  After extended wear, the gore tex starts to break down at pinch points and creases.  Waterproofing at that point only slows down the inevitable.

As for treating the leather, I've tried snow seal, mink oil, neets foot oil, vaseline, montana pitch blend, shoe polish, silicone, and just about every other water proofing goop I've ever found for sale.  I've even made my own home made stuff.  I don't even think of any of them as water proofers any more.  They are leather conditioners with the possible exception of silicone which doesn't condition and resists water about the best.  The real purpose of all the goop type stuff is to maintain or restore softness and flexibility after the leather has gotten wet and then dried.

If you try to test water proofing at home by running water in the sink and over the boot, it'll look like it works great.  Too bad rain water acts differently.  Rain drops will practically soak right in on some leathers that are supposedly waterproofed.  Especially on something like suede with silicone treatment.

Also, when you go out hunting, you walk through brush and grass that works on your boots about like touching the inside of a tent during a rain storm.  Not to mention all the little scratches and abrasions marks you get on the leather that lets water right in.

If you want water PROOF, use rubber boots.
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Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on December 13, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
If your Danners are leaking then you won't find a boot that will be waterproof enough for you.

Unless:

You buy knee high rubber boots by Lacrosse or Muck.

LL Bean boots are great if you are walking on level ground , otherwise the ground will fly up and hit you in the arse  :)  I wouldn't give you a nickle for all of them for hunting here in Appalachia.

Jack
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Post by: Double Tee on December 13, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
I talked about the Sno-seal above but when its really wet and muddy I go to my LL Bean boots.
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Post by: Paul WA on December 13, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
I wear Danners 365 days a year, my "Full Curl" model are 2 yrs old and still don't leak. I had a pair of "Pronghorns" that leaked after a yr and a half, I sent them back to the factory in Oregon after complaining about them via Email and they sent me a new pair. Good service since they were only guaranteed for one yr. They sent me an email telling me to cut my big toe nails more often...PR
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Post by: Bill Kissner on December 13, 2009, 01:51:00 PM
If you want your feet to stay dry, you got to have rubber boots. Same goes for your body, get a rubber rainsuit. Gore Tex is the biggest ripoff there is in waterproofing.
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Post by: Grayseas on December 13, 2009, 01:54:00 PM
Muck boots, 4 years old I still can stand in a stream, come out dry.
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Post by: Shooty1 on December 13, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
Send them back. My Acadias are 8 years old and still waterproof.
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Post by: RPolk on December 13, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Contact Danner, let them know hey are a year old and leaking. They generally do what they can to make things right.
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Post by: bentpole on December 13, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Yep 18" high  Rubber Boots only way to go. I have pairs for early to late season. Here in Jersey it gets kinda cold too during Winter Bow.
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Post by: cacciatore on December 13, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
If you don't have to climb a mountain,rubber boots,and now they have a serious insulations too
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Post by: ksbowman on December 13, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
I have a couple pair of Danner Pronghorns and the older pair seep even though I use Snowseal two or three times a year.They hold for a while then seep again, but they have several hundred miles on them and are so darn comfortable I over look it.When I really need the waterproof I put overshoes on.   Ben
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Post by: woodchucker on December 13, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
If you want waterproof boots,you only have to remember one word.....

RUBBER!!!!!!!!!!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Stone Knife on December 13, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
Rubber boots for walking , gortex for stand hunting.