(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/snag23/Bowyer.jpg)
This is not the results of my shooting. This is from someone else's shot at an elk. The elk jumped the string in a big way! Not the intended shot placement. But as you can see the head performed well through thick bone. No "tip curl" here!
That's some heavy bone. Do you know the specs on the setup?
I like it!!! Not the shot but the penetration just as Dr Ashby confirms. Bow & arrow specs would be nice.
Did they find the elk? :p
No. They got that bone in the mail some time later, from a guy named Royal Yellowstone.
Jiminey Christmas!!
Set up info would be extremely valuable!!
QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Hammond:
No. They got that bone in the mail some time later, from a guy named Royal Yellowstone.
Funny post!
That's proof in the pudding right there.I'd be interested to know bow setup as well.
Very effective indeed!
Please don't take this as trying to start something, please :thumbsup:
I agree with Guru. I did the same thing on a Buffalo with a STOS. Dropped it stone dead and I think the bone might have been a bit thicker then an Elk but I've never compared. But I do like the Abowyer's and even watched a bunch being made down at the ACS "factory". First class killing head.
CJ
what curt said.
Was that elk shot from a tree stand. I was thinking of setting one next year but didn't know about shot placement for elk from that angle ?
QuoteOriginally posted by elktalker:
Was that elk shot from a tree stand. I was thinking of setting one next year but didn't know about shot placement for elk from that angle ?
Shot placement would be the same as any deer, elk being a member of that family. :thumbsup:
You just killed me right there Ray! haha!
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Elk are nothing like deer when it comes to killing them. To say they are tough is a huge understatment. You have to get good shot placement to kill them. Ive seen deer shot in the guts and dropped over night. Not going to happen with elk. Ive seen to many elk shot good from the ground with full broadside and not found them. Once I shot one center body right behind the sholder from the ground and only got one lung it was a last light shot so we came back in the morning to jump him he ran like he wasn't even hit. I did end up getting him, by the grace of God I was able to get a shot at the other lung later that morning.I have a lot of respect for the animals I hunt and was looking for responce from some one that has expearience elk hunting from tree stands.
Well, first off I was hoping this meant ole' Snag had a blacktail down!
Many heads out there wouldn't have done that without a fairly heavy bow and heavy arrows and would have hung up much sooner, IMLTHO. That said I'm positive a Grizzly or Stohs would have done as well or nearly as well.
Yup...Not wishing to venture into the great beyond either, but I suppose alongside saying other quality heads would also fair well is the matter that there are many that won't...like none of what I presently have in my whitetail quiver.
The picture does make a nice heads-up statement, though...and the bone/head would make a great paperweight.
QuoteOriginally posted by elktalker:
Elk are nothing like deer when it comes to killing them. To say they are tough is a huge understatment. You have to get good shot placement to kill them. Ive seen deer shot in the guts and dropped over night. Not going to happen with elk. Ive seen to many elk shot good from the ground with full broadside and not found them. Once I shot one center body right behind the sholder from the ground and only got one lung it was a last light shot so we came back in the morning to jump him he ran like he wasn't even hit. I did end up getting him, by the grace of God I was able to get a shot at the other lung later that morning.I have a lot of respect for the animals I hunt and was looking for responce from some one that has expearience elk hunting from tree stands.
I apologize if my response wasn't what you were looking for. But biologically, elk are a member of the deer family. As such, their vital organ placement is the same as their smaller cousins. The fact that elk live longer than smaller deer, like whitetails for example, after marginal hits doesn't change proper shot placement (marginal hits, by definition are
not proper shot placement).
Yes they're big. Yes they're tough. That may change equipment requirements, but it doesn't change where you need to put your arrow to get both lungs.
And yes, I do have experience hunting elk from treestands.
ANY quality broadhead on the market isn't going to get that much penetration on an elk. Cool pic!
Wow, I wasn't saying the Abowyer head was better than another head. Just thought it was a cool picture that I wanted to share with others here as to the effectiveness of them. I am concerned with tip curl when selecting a broadhead. This was pretty convincing to me as to their strength.
Steve H, I wish it was a picture of a big old barrel-chested blacktail!!! Kind of like the one you shot this year! :confused: Still looking.
That photo was going around this past summer. Here are some flint heads in elk or bison vertebrae; both penetrated the spinal cord.....intact.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/vertebrae.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/vertebraea.jpg)
Not meant to be a knock on Abowyers at all guys. I know they're built like tanks and as high quality as any BH on the market!
But I'll stand by my original post about other quality Bh's...just my opinion, and you know what they say about those :goldtooth:
Guru is right. I haven't killed an elk or moose with a spine shot but have killed at least 6 deer that way. The Magnus I was the most impressive but Phantoms, Snuffers, Woodsman and Bear Razorheads all did the job and remained intact.
George those must have been back in the stone age with conpound bows before they evolved to using stick bows.
Well, in all honesty, it's a little amusing to see folks in "shock and awe" over what has been done for literally thousands of years. There is nothing fantastic or magical about new broadheads and what they will do. There are only people who never saw it before.
All of these new broadheads are very good heads, as are all of the broadheads that have stood the test of time. But as a rule, and as a matter of fact, most are ignorant of what has went before, so they are easily awed by photos.
In Duncansville, Pa., near Altoona, there is an antique depot that has a display of a small arrowhead of stone, imbedded in a very big vertebrae....also intact and into the spinal cavity. History is there....we just don't bother looking for it. Everthing is new if you don't know what's old.
Geaorge, I am gonna make a guess that those are not from arrows but from heavier atlatl darts.
Not a whole lot different
ChuckC