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Title: Stalking with a camera - Pic Heavy
Post by: saumensch on December 10, 2009, 04:49:00 AM
Hello Gang,

as i always enjoy youre game-pics i decided i will share some of mine.
I live in Germany wich makes it impossible to show hero pics of game (with a bow) but as a training for my hunting trips to come i sometimes stalk at game and "hunt" it with my camera.
Normally game in Germany is quite spooky and hard to get close to but some time ago i found a part of forest in the region of Thuringia, a foresty and not so crowded state where there are quite some numbers of different game and i could take some shots of them. I was stunned by the amount of animals i saw and it is really unusual for this part of the world.


first sign:

    (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3591.jpg)  


two moufflons that got wind of me:

      (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3589.jpg)
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Post by: saumensch on December 10, 2009, 04:58:00 AM
two fallow deer:
   (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3588.jpg)  


could get nearer to one of them:

   (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3587.jpg)  

moufflon ram:

       (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3614.jpg)

i was one happy guy after all these sightings and on my way back to the car i topped it all! i saw a herd of red deer with one dream of a bull! that is rare and awesome thing round here and i was pleased like he##.

   (http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/g_reiner/DSCF3641b.jpg)  
   
Hope you enjoyed the pics

Moderators, resized them to 23 kb, but still show big, have i resized enough?
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Post by: loyd on December 10, 2009, 05:04:00 AM
those are all hero shots. loyd
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Post by: saumensch on December 10, 2009, 05:07:00 AM
ohh, forgot to mention, the last pic, as may see by its blurriness is zoomed in very strong, it was perhaps taken from 150 -200 yards. all others are not zoomed in.
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Post by: DEERDOG on December 10, 2009, 06:03:00 AM
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: maineac on December 10, 2009, 07:21:00 AM
Very nice.  Keep on with the stalking.  That was a nice ram.
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Post by: Robert Honaker on December 10, 2009, 08:02:00 AM
Uuummm...is hunting not allowed in Germany?
Looks like alot of game there. How do they control the population?
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Post by: saumensch on December 10, 2009, 08:07:00 AM
hunting is allowed, bowhunting not, only rifles.
and only private hunting properties, so every hunt-owner must take care of his population. Also he has to pay if there is damage to agricultural fields or harvest-woods, therefore most hunters keep their population low. Seems like i found a place with less damage, less hunting, more animals.
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Post by: Robert Honaker on December 10, 2009, 08:14:00 AM
Oh ok. That's a shame.
That Mouflon ram is awesome. Are they native to Germany? I would love to hunt them. All we have here are transplants on game farms, not my cup of tea.
Has anyone tried to convince your country to allow bow hunting?
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Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on December 10, 2009, 08:30:00 AM
Great Pictures.
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Post by: BRONZ on December 10, 2009, 08:38:00 AM
Very cool!
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Post by: Bill Carlsen on December 10, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
I have a friend that comes over to the US from Switzerland to hunt bear in the Fall season. He is amazed at how we take hunting for granted. If he wants to bowhunt he cannot do it at all in most European countries so he must hunt Africa, Australia, Canada, the US, etc. My conversations with him have made me much more thankful and grateful that I live where I live. While rifle hunting is allowed bow hunting is not. For most it is a problem just keeping rifle hunting because of the anti hunting groups.  Introducing bow hunting would open up a can of worms.

Another interesting thing my friend, Tom, told me is that in Germany, for an example, to get hunter certified you must take a year long course, pass a test and I believe  a shooting proficiency test. If I am not mistaken the proficiency test is an annual thing. Then in order to hunt you basically have to have permission to hunt private land and that cost about $10,000 annually for a permit. I could have some of the specifics wrong but all of us in North America and a few other countries ought to be really thankful for what we have.
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Post by: Shaun on December 10, 2009, 08:44:00 AM
Very good hunting with a camera Axel! Hope you get a chance to bow hunt in other places. Good Hunting!
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Post by: Doc Nock on December 10, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
Nicely done...
normal lenses make things look terribly far off...

AS someone above stated, getting those pics are just as viable a "hero" shot as when they're on the ground.  Kinda "catch and release" hunting!  :)
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Post by: metsastaja on December 10, 2009, 09:23:00 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post. Great photos.
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Post by: Tom Leemans on December 10, 2009, 10:38:00 AM
Thanks for the great pics! That ram is a beauty!
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Post by: Squirrelbane on December 10, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
Cool stuff! That's closer to real hunting than most of the orange clad sprinters over here do imo.
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Post by: saumensch on December 10, 2009, 12:31:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bill Carlsen:
I have a friend that comes over to the US from Switzerland to hunt bear in the Fall season. He is amazed at how we take hunting for granted. If he wants to bowhunt he cannot do it at all in most European countries so he must hunt Africa, Australia, Canada, the US, etc. My conversations with him have made me much more thankful and grateful that I live where I live. While rifle hunting is allowed bow hunting is not. For most it is a problem just keeping rifle hunting because of the anti hunting groups.  Introducing bow hunting would open up a can of worms.

Another interesting thing my friend, Tom, told me is that in Germany, for an example, to get hunter certified you must take a year long course, pass a test and I believe  a shooting proficiency test. If I am not mistaken the proficiency test is an annual thing. Then in order to hunt you basically have to have permission to hunt private land and that cost about $10,000 annually for a permit. I could have some of the specifics wrong but all of us in North America and a few other countries ought to be really thankful for what we have.
Well, that is near but not quite right.
In Spain, France, Denmark, Finland, Hungary, Turkey and some other states in Europe you can bowhunt. Ther is a movement starting to try to get bowhunting allowed in Germany but as you say it is a bit like a opening a can of worms. Just to remind you, catch and release for fish is not allowed in Germany because of Animal-protection laws?!?   :knothead:

You are rigth about the exam, the shooting test etc. You can also pass this exam in three weeks but then its full time and will cost round about 5000 (!) dollar. The shooting test is not annual, otherwise some of them older hunters wouldnt be hunters any more. A hunting property is extremely expensive, but you can, as we younger and not so wealthy ones do go hunting on some occasions on friends/ relatives/ Friends of relatives etc. properties.  

all in all it is an old hunting-policy-system that has developed from the hunting laws of the middle ages where only nobles were allowed to hunt so hunting stayed somewhat for "the elites" around here. It sucks but it gets better, slowly but it does.
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Post by: Bill Carlsen on December 10, 2009, 06:49:00 PM
Glad to hear things are changing. Can't  happen too fast. It is a  shame as there are so many really good archers in Europe.
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Post by: John3 on December 10, 2009, 07:07:00 PM
great pics.. thanks for sharing them with us.
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Post by: lpcjon2 on December 10, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
was that a traditional camera.That's some really nice animal shots.great job
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Post by: DHR on December 11, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
thanks for the beautiful pics, and the reminder not to take our hunting rights for granted.  :notworthy:  I hope the day comes soon when you can enjoy the opportunity to hunt those beautiful animals with your bow.

Dan
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Post by: joevan125 on December 11, 2009, 11:01:00 AM
Thats a shame you couldnt go after that giant ram with a trad bow. I am so very thankful i live in a place where i can hunt year round. I cant imagine what life would be like if i wasnt allowed to hunt, that would suck.