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Title: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: Margly on December 09, 2009, 06:31:00 AM
Hi!
I`m building new arrows for some hog hunting.
Since I never have hunted hogs before I am curious about their reaction/string jumping and what kind of speed that is preferable.
The latest set of arrows has a weight of 755 gn. and gives a speed of 157 with my recurve.
The numbers is as follows:
fps     157
fp/lbs   41,33
lbs/s    0,526
Foc   20,46
I know that this setup should do the job, but the only factor I am unsure about is the speed.

Anybody that have some experience to share    :coffee:    

Margly
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: Bobby Urban on December 09, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Not sure of an exact number but my friends and I have shot a lot of them with self bows that are shooting slower than that.  We have also taken them with atlatl's and spears that I know are slower than that.  You should be fine.  good luck and enjoy the pork.
Bob Urban
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: wingnut on December 09, 2009, 06:54:00 AM
Margly,

That setup should be very quiet and hit like a ton of bricks.  Now get out and shoot it a bunch so your eye adjusts too the new arc of the arrow.

Mike
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: Margly on December 09, 2009, 07:02:00 AM
Thanks guys!
I did test them yesterday and the weight makes my bow dead quiet and the arrows has a serious impact on the 3D animals.
Margly
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: Fishnhunt on December 09, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
yes that setup should hit them like a piano falling on their head.

I have shot 6 hogs with bows: 2 w/ compounds over feeders, 1 w/ recurve from treestand, 3 w/ recurve from stalk.  It has been my personal experience that they do not jump the string.  The 4 shot w/ the recurve were all shot using approx 520 grain arrow from a 40# bow, thats like 13 or 14 GPP and very slow in my opinion. Dunno the FPS.  

For some reason, they do not seem to jump the string.  Maybe they are too big? I have taken and will continue to take shots on hogs when the hogs are completely tensed up, aware that something was awry, probably just about to bolt and I'm at anchor. In my experience (with hogs not deer) the arrow will get to its mark before they can move upon hearing the string, even if they are ready to bolt. Just my experience.

Hogs always bewilder me with the juxtaposition of the varying difficulties in hunting them.  Sometimes its hard, sometimes its hard but seems easy. Here is what I mean. I have been busted by them so many times while in tree stands.  Especially the big boys and big sows. They come in on a trail, divert off the trail to good wind position, throw that nose up and are gone even before I can lift bow outta my lap.  Times like that hog hunting can seem very hard.

Versus....the last 3 hogs I shot on stalk.  One at 10 or so feet in his bed, awake, but unwilling to move thinking he was camo. Once that shot went off and he got to his feet and slowly started walking away, the surrounding grass and small pine exploded like a covey of quail. Hogs leapt from their beds and scrambled 10-15 yards and stopped in the tall grass.  I have seen this numerous times. They get in the tall grass (3ft hi) stop and think they are camo. Not a single hog from that group of 10+ tried to make it the 75-100 yards outta that field into the thick timber surrounding us.  

We were surrounded by hogs in a small field of grass. I only had one more arrow so I loosed it at a hog that was doubled up on another one in the grass, about 19 yards away.  It was  good hit. Those 2 did run for cover. Even after all that commotion all the other hogs sat tight.  I had no more arrows! I walked back to the big loblolly in the center of the field where it all started and there were 3 hogs, 1 of which was close to prolly 250#, the others at 140+# and they were still bedded thinking they were camo!  They had not moved the entire time. I could see other hogs out in the field too. I'll never go out on stalk w/ only 2 arrows again.
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: tradtusker on December 09, 2009, 10:31:00 AM
sounds good to me
good luck, get out there and kill some pigs
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: Apex Predator on December 09, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
I've killed quite a few at around 135-140 fps.  Don't sweat the small stuff!
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: George D. Stout on December 09, 2009, 12:23:00 PM
There is a line of diminishing returns on both ends of the spectrum, and we don't kill by blunt trauma.  Hitting like a ton of bricks is good if you intend to blunt them in the head.  Your setup, or even one with a 500 grain arrow, will slice through those pigs very efficiently.  Put the arrow where it goes and cut those vessels.
Title: Re: How slow is to slow fps
Post by: wtpops on December 09, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
Hogs are very smart animals. They LEARN very fast. You don't need to worry about your set up just the type of hogs you are hunting. Highly pressured hogs will jump out of their skin at the slightest sound that they don't like; they can learn the human form and will be gone at the sight of your human form. Ive hunted some hogs that as soon as they saw any part of my standing form they would be gone, then stalking the same hogs from my hands and knees they would pay no mind to me. On the flip side hogs with little pressure and little human contact will seem to almost welcome you into the herd provided they don't smell you.  

To answer your question yes they can jump the string, I have had it happen but it is rare.