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Title: Are these scrapes???
Post by: horatio1226 on November 10, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
I went to show my boys where I have my stand set up today and to check on a camera when I came across these. I have been using a scent drag going in and have seen a spike and a nice 6 pointer in this immediate area. None of the scrapes are under any branches and I haven't seen any fresh rubs. Are they scrapes? They sure look it to me, but I'm still an inexperienced hunter. I have seen nothing like this in any other part of the woods and have been all over them. There are probably 7 or 8 of them right around my stand.

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(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z267/horatio1226/scrapes003.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z267/horatio1226/scrapes005.jpg)
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Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: pj starrett on November 10, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
looks like hog rooting or turkey rooting to me
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: Gil Verwey on November 10, 2009, 05:14:00 PM
Looks like turkey to me. I have a million of them on my property.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: horatio1226 on November 10, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
I do have a lot of turkeys in here.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: horatio1226 on November 10, 2009, 05:16:00 PM
Wish I had some hogs!
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: pj starrett on November 10, 2009, 05:17:00 PM
No you dont, hogs are a terrible nuisance that ruin deer hunting.  I just moved here from texas and i hope i never see another one...
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: ron w on November 10, 2009, 05:19:00 PM
Brian, smell them. If they smell like musky urine then there scrapes, if not most likely turkeys. No tracks in them?
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: Izzy on November 10, 2009, 05:19:00 PM
Really looks like turkey scratchings pal. If you look real close at scrapes you will usually see a definative scratch mark from hooves.The really good ones will have a licking branch over them.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 10, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
any trax in them?
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: horatio1226 on November 10, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
Nah I think they're turkeys. Just seemed wierd having them around my stand like that. Any ideas what they're after. Kind of under a hickory tree.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: ishiwannabe on November 10, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
For future reference, scrapes usually have deer tracks or deer foot drag marks. Turkey scratches usually form a V  and have little or no sign in them. The are difficult to tell apart under many different circumstances. I think you found some turkey sign.
Scrapes  can  be found in clusters like that, but usually arent. More in a line(as in the line of travel). They are typically under a "licking branch", but not always. You can almost always find a track in a scrape-sometimes it helps figure out the direction of movement.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: horatio1226 on November 10, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
You realize that I had to overcome my ego to post this, but I would look silly to learn something. No such thing as a stupid question...

I'm on some deer so I'm happy either way!   :bigsmyl:

Thanks for being gentle and helpful! This group is my hunting mentor~!!!
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: pj starrett on November 10, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
you only learn by asking questions brother
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: ron w on November 10, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
The only foolish question ...is the one you don't ask!!!!!
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: Apex Predator on November 10, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
If it was a scrape, placing your hat beside it will kill it quick!

No such thing as a stupid question.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: bentpole on November 10, 2009, 06:03:00 PM
Usually a tree,branch, sapling, over a scrape. Besides urinating in a scrape; Bucks rub their orbital gland on the branch to leave their scent too.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: horatio1226 on November 10, 2009, 06:03:00 PM
If they were scrapes, they were already killed. My kids had walked around them already. I really didn't think they were. There were too many and none under any branches. It just seemed strange to me that they just happened to be all around my stand. My 16 year old wanted to see where I was set up. He hasn't been shooting enough for me to let him come out with me. I was hoping that he would want to come out with me if I showed him where I was set up. I would give up all the deer in the woods to get him out with me.   :(
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: 30coupe on November 10, 2009, 06:46:00 PM
Pee in one and see if it grows! Deer don't know human pee from deer pee. I've made mock scrapes using my own pee and had deer enlarge them for me.

However, I also think those are turkey scratchings. For one thing, they seem to be scraped from the center out. Deer scrapes are usually one direction. As has been said, they almost always have either hoof prints, toe marks or both. Often there is a licking branch over the scrape, but I've seen a lot of them without, especially on a well used trail. If you have turkeys in the area, I'd be 99% sure that's what made your "scrapes" though.

BTW: turkeys are mighty tasty too.    ;)
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: Tyke on November 10, 2009, 08:17:00 PM
QuoteBTW: turkeys are mighty tasty too.
And a lot easier draggin'!
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: horatio1226 on November 10, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
I would love a turkey! They seem harder to get than the deer.

We all peed on one just for fun.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: 30coupe on November 10, 2009, 09:37:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by horatio1226:
I would love a turkey! They seem harder to get than the deer.
No doubt about that, especially from a tree stand. They have predators above them, so movement from above means danger to them. I had a chance at one from my tree stand this fall, but alas, I had no fall turkey tag    :mad:
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: stickrod on November 12, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
Probably turkey, usually a deer scrape will have tine marks and tracks. Also deer will normally scrape under a branch where they will chew and rub scent glands on.
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: turkey522 on November 12, 2009, 02:20:00 PM
turkey
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: Arwin on November 13, 2009, 12:05:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by horatio1226:


We all peed on one just for fun.
:biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Are these scrapes???
Post by: hunter jenkins on November 13, 2009, 12:24:00 AM
could be a armadillo