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Title: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: String Cutter on November 08, 2009, 11:58:00 PM
I've read alot of threads about how 2 blades out penitrate 3 blades...
How 3 blades make a bigger hole and won't close up like a 2 blade.
How you can't get a 3 blade as sharp as a 2 blade.. if you can get a 3 blade sharp at all....
My thought is "Why even bother with a 3 blade?" Use a 4 blade with the removeable bleeder blades . You can get a steeper angle when sharpening just like a 2 blade and the hole won't close up on you when you use the bleeders.. just like a 3 blade...
Can anyone point out any advantage of a 3 blade over a 4??? Is there any??
Why would you choose to use something so hard to sharpen anyway??? 4 Blades are the way to go!!!
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on November 09, 2009, 12:13:00 AM
Not everyone finds 3-blade heads difficult to sharpen. I used them for a number of years and had no issues getting them sharp, flying straight, or putting them through the lungs of whatever I was hunting.

People have been killing all sorts of big game with 3-blade heads for generations. I'd say they work just fine.
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: Mike Bolin on November 09, 2009, 12:17:00 AM
I find the woodsmans and Snuffers to be the easiest heads to sharpen. Once you learn how to do it, it is a piece of cake! Mike
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: String Cutter on November 09, 2009, 02:17:00 AM
I guess some folks are truely blessed with being able to sharpen those 3 blades or maybe their definition of sharp isn't the same as mine? To me if I can't "hear" the hair popping off my arm and there is any hair left after just 1 swipe it ain't sharp. When I first started in Trad Archery I really really wanted to use those huge 3 blade Snuffers. I'll admitt they look like they will cut a chicken in half. But after 2 dozen snuffers, a Snuffer Tamer and everything else I could try to learn from here and the other site... PvC pipe with sand paper , the Snuffer Tamer, Belt sanders + 100's of hours trying ect. I finally figured out... IMHO you can't get a 60 degree bevel anywhere near as sharp as a 21 degree bevel...And you can't get a 21 degree bevel as sharp as a 17 degree bevel. That's why a straight razors so thin....
The best thing I have ever even came close to while using was the Tamer. But it takes off so much metal to knock down the bevel it ain't funny.
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: Guru on November 09, 2009, 04:55:00 AM
If you're happy with what you use,have at it.

But I'll keep using my "dull" 3 blades   :thumbsup:

Guess I'm "truly blessed"    ;)    

Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done bud.  

What is your intention with this thread anyway?
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: String Cutter on November 09, 2009, 05:10:00 AM
Guru, I'm just bord?? And was thinkin that I've seem hundreds of threads on 2 vs.3 blades but don't recall any 3 vs. 4??
Are there any advantage of a 3 blade over a 4??
And I'm sure that a 3 can some how by a gifted hand be sharped. But I don't think it will ever be as sharp as a 2/4 blade. The bevels just to wide unless you use a Tamer??
Don't mean to offend ya and yer butter knife. LOL  :notworthy:
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: Guru on November 09, 2009, 05:23:00 AM
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: JC on November 09, 2009, 08:55:00 AM
I've read alot of threads about how 2 blades out penitrate 3 blades... Not all 2 blades will out penetrate all 3 blades in all mediums...or vice versa.

 How 3 blades make a bigger hole and won't close up like a 2 blade. Many would agree with that statement.

 How you can't get a 3 blade as sharp as a 2 blade.. if you can get a 3 blade sharp at all....  While you can't get the blade as thin with a 3 blade, many can definitely get them sharp.

 My thought is "Why even bother with a 3 blade?"  For the same reason to "bother" with anything else...because I want to.

 Use a 4 blade with the removeable bleeder blades . You can get a steeper angle when sharpening just like a 2 blade and the hole won't close up on you when you use the bleeders.. just like a 3 blade...  Maybe.

 Can anyone point out any advantage of a 3 blade over a 4??? Is there any?? Show me a 4 blade that's a homogenous/solid piece of steel. I'm not sure if you could break a 300 extreme (or new woodsman elite) without a hammer and an anvil if you tried. Show me a 4 blade with the cutting surface of a 160 Snuffer.

 Why would you choose to use something so hard to sharpen anyway???  Not everyone finds them hard to sharpen.

 4 Blades are the way to go!!!  Opinions obviously vary.
Title: Re: 3Bl. vs. 4 Bl.
Post by: Terry Green on November 09, 2009, 09:02:00 AM
I think most folks that don't get 3 blades sharp enough are not getting the bevels level to start with....or don't have the right tools or talent.

You can also get a 2 blade too sharp to hunt with as it will not be durable and roll.

I'm a 4 blade man....but have taken my share of animals with SHARP 3 blades as well. Like you said, didn't mean to offend LOL.

I certainly wouldn't have shot this guy with a butter knife 3 blade head...But he was shot with a SHARP 3 blade...after a sharp 2 blade ricochet off a rib and ran up the outside of the rib cage for about 5 inches..

       (http://tradgang.com/tg/images5/tgbuff2.jpg)

USE what you can get sharp by all means, AND what you have confidence in.  No need to start a pissing match thread just because you are board.       "[dntthnk]"