I am going to try the ABowyer Brown Bear heads tonight. I have them flying very good out to 40 yards. Has anyone taken any game with them? If so how did they perform?
Thanks
Gil
Gil,
Haven't got to put them too use yet. I have my arrows setup with lighter heads right now and need to get stiffer shafts for the big boys.
Mine are earmarked for some big hogs early next year and an appointment with a moose in Alaska in September.
Mike
Mike I have to admit they seem higher quality. They passed the spin test the very first time. They fly like field points. Hopefully tonight I will give you a report. I am heading out right now. I will let you know how they do if I get the oportunity.
Gil
I bought six of the Brown Bears for my moose hunt. While getting ready I shot one through the metal leg of a 3-D target and it didn't bend just dulled the edges.I'm impressed. Never got to shoot a moose but shot this buck on Tuesday with one. The arrow missed the spine and went down through the goods. Lots of damage inside and came out the belly. I don't know if I will ever shoot a different broadhead.
Bob
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Dang Wapiti,
Did you pin him to the ground?
What a shot angle! I hunt from a tree seat about 2 feet off the ground, I shot a doe last weekend and the arrow went UP through her!
Great shooting, congrats!
I was impressed with the performance of the brown bear. I shot a moose back in sept, trailed it for a whole six yards. quickest kill i've ever had. great broadhead. the only complaint i have would be they corrode quickly. it would be nice if they were made from stainless steel.
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John, LOL no it didn't pin him. Arrow was sticking out the bottom and broke off when he dropped it pushed it up a little.
Jeanpaul, That's why I didn't get my moose you did ! Very nice bull. One day....
I shot my Cape buffalo with a Brown Bear excellent head you can't go wrong.
Well I didn't get a chance to test one tonght, but from the responses whitetail won't have a chance. Maybe tomorrow I will have my own test results. They sure fly great, now I just need something to shoot at. Had two small does and a small buck come in, no shooters though.
I have been looking into them. I have been worried about the 2 blade head. I have had trouble in the past with 2 blade heads not leaving good blood trails. The fat Iowa deer tend to plug the thin slit holes when I get a pass trough. I shoot stingers w/ bleeders now. Would like to increase my BH weight. Anyone have problems with their blood trails?
Abowyer makes great broadheads, bought 3 whitetails and was so impressed with the quality and the way they flew, bought another 6. Still waiting for the "deaf,dumb and blind" deer to cross my path in the woods.
Shot an elk with one in Sept. Great results with near pass through into the far shoulder from a 54 pound bow.
One negative and this may be on me.I have always been a file guy but I sharpened these heads using a stone and honing oil. The heads sharpened up nice and easy but after a few days the paint became very tacky and would rub off to the touch. I ended up wire brushing off all of the paint . Lesson learned- if you use honing oil make sure you don't leave any on the broadhead.
I practice with these heads every day. I shoot them better than my field tips, I think because I concentrate harder with the broadhead up front. I had been passing up deer all season, now I want to test the Brown Bear and the deer must know it because they are not cooperating. Figures.
I am shooting a 60# Jack Harrison El Lobo, with a CX heritage 150 with 350 grains up front. The arrow total weight is 675. Man with the Brown Bear broadheads up front, I better make sure there aren't any deer on the other side of the one I shoot or else I am going to get a twofer.
If they cooperate I will let you know how it turns out.
Shot my first deer with brown bear today at 5:19 pm. It was a small doe but the shot was good. I heard her crash not far away. the shot was just a tad high and was about 12yds. I can't complain about the blood trail at all. Just walked beside the blood to the dead deer. 47lb recurve with 459gn arrow weight. DB
Katie,
Two blades are fine for blood trails and the Abowyer Brown Bears are great heads. With an EFOC arrow of significant weight you should have the horsepower to get the exit wound, you'll have no problem.
Blood trails are all about the exit wound when shooting from a tree.
Mike
Bob, nice looking deer and bow. Is that a Centaur? What is your setup? BILL
Great heads, sharpen to hair-popping level quickly and re-sharpen just as quickly.
The ferrule is 5/16" I believe. I had to grind down my adaptors to get them to fit all the way in the ferrule.
Same here Jason
Dang Bob, can you believe he called your Morrison a Centaur?? :eek: ?? I'm sure you will forgive him.
:saywhat:
again, nice job! :thumbsup:
BobW
I also want to add: their customer service is as great as the heads they sell.
I have 3 categories of heads.....my 'favorite'...best 'all around'...and 'stranded/survival'. The Abowyers, any off them, are the ones I'd want if I was lost in the wilderness or stranded on an island. Durable, bomb proof and could be sharpened on a rock. I blew through a 150# hog with the wide bone buster the 1st hunt I took it on.
I've run a few wide 4 blade heads slap though deer on steep angles like that pic on page 1 .....
So, .....gotta ask about that set up on that non complete pass through on that buck. With that head design you should have buried that head in the ground and the deer ran off and left it stuck right there. I can not believe the feathers didn't even get bloodied.
Congrats though. :readit:
Terry,
I look at it this way. Dead deer, entry and exit hole, good blood trail. Anything else is just showing off.
Mike
:biglaugh:
Mike-
thanks for the info.
Mike....look at it this way...there really is no 'magic bullet' after all. :bigsmyl:
Its the indian not the head. :thumbsup:
The only advise i would give is if you have lighter # bow stick don`t go with the big bone heads. I believe they take a little more bow for pass through an rob energy. I liver shot a elk an hip shot 10pt deer (unseen deflection) with no exit holes , granite shot placement is everything how ever i was shocked on my elk when i only got 10"s penetration. I had it in my head that i could shoot through anything with my setup 68# 660gr arrow with a large bone head an alot forward weight on a thin shaft. If i was going to hunt game bigger than deer i would use the wapiti or brown bears head. On my 10pt the arrow went in above the hip through tender loin an buried in the lower thigh on the opposite side ,so i guess that anit to bad 15"s of penetration through alot meat.but i do shoot a heavy setup.. I do luv the heads, but i think you should match the head to ur setup.Just my 2cents.
Terry,
So true, gotta put it where it's supposed to be and not where it ain't.
A lot of the time it's the situation. With your buff, a well placed shot hits a rib and takes a turn. The next shot misses the bone and does the deed.
Mike
The bow is a Dakota I think around 53#s and the arrows purpleheart footed not sure of the weight.There could have been some spine contact :confused: but I did not personally see it just what Bob told me on the phone.
As for the BH's I'd say they are a nice durable head that should be able to be used for several critters before they lay to rest.Thats just by looking at Bob's I've not tried them
What are you guys using to sharpen these heads? If you're using the KME knife sharpener as recommended are you using the stone or diamond files? Thanks
Stones.
They are real close to good to go when you get them and only take a minute or two each to bring them up to OMG sharp. A little strop on cardboard and away you go.
Mike
Thanks wingnut.
I used a little fine tooth Grobet on the factory edges...a dozen LIGHT licks and then flatside the back to knock the bur off. I have not tried the KME on these yet...but have other heads.
I am going to give the GrizzlyStik Razor Sharp System a try. I put out a thread about it here on the Pow Wow and got very good responses from those that have used it. It is supposed to be very fast and get them very sharp. I like the fast part.
I shoot the wapiti's,,, I have not hit anything with them but I have every broadhead here and I know you cannot go wrong,, I should be shooting them almost exclusively from most of my traditional bows next season and on SC hogs in May.
they are great broadheads!
Tracy just killed her third deer this year with a brown bear.So yea I would say they work very well.
Bill
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What are you guys using to sharpen these heads? If you're using the KME knife sharpener as recommended are you using the stone or diamond files? Thanks
I use a simmons clamp sharpener w the ceramic rods it comes with and it pretty much only deburrs the edge but after about 20 light passes I can shave with it.
I also use this sharpener system for all my 2-bladed and removable blade heads (slicktricks/thunderheads/stinger) & knives
I use a piece of cardboard then go to leather, I tried the stone first, but the above was better an dummy proof..These are by far the sharpest heads i`ve ever had using this method with out a doubt i can shave my face.
I forgot to add take it slow, get them to start to shave with the cardboard then go to the leather even lighter strokes. At the point hair just rolls off effortlessly ur done. This hole process will take about 1an half mix drinks or 3 beers. I strongly suggest only 2 heads a night max.
They have accounted for one doe so far here in East Texas, 10 yard shot, dead deer lying at 60 yards maybe.
I ordered the BB, They make a super product...I have shot 4 blade "Z" and love them, but I did give the BB a try. They fly good and are easy to get real sharp. Anyway shot a spike from 15 yards, quartering away, when thur the back rib, came out behind the front shoulder, lots of blood, easy to trail. My "Z" have always did the same thing, for 1/3 of the cost and are easier to sharpen and just as strong..plus I like bleeder blades. I'm back shootin' the "Z" took a nice 8 point that ran about 70 yards. YOU DECIDE IF THEY ARE WORTH THE EXTRA MONEY!! I'll stick with my "Z"!!! I shoot a 50#@ 28" longbow and draw 27"!
For sharpening the brown bear I am using the KME knife sharpener, a fantastic piece of equipment for broadheads and knives. Love the bb head for a solid two blade head.