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Title: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stick_string on November 03, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Hey Guys/Ladies,
I have some questions for you all and just curious if we think the same:

1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?
2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?
3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)

I am asking this because I here alot kids and younger folks at the archery shop always wanting the "fast" bow (mostly becasue Michael Wadell or some other show host shoots it...and that is surely the only bow that will kill).

Just curious about you younger guys (like me) who have just started the trad journey ....
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stick_string on November 03, 2009, 09:48:00 AM
I guess I should go:

1. picked up trad fro the simplicity of it, I started focusing too much on pins, distances, and everything working right....didn't like it.  I get the same exciment at kill time but the getting there is what I didn't like.     :archer:  

2. I dont fit the stero type...I like the old school methods (some anyway), and actually dont want gimmics.
- I think baking soda works in the washer
- I dont think carbon clothes aren't worth near the price for what they probably dont do
- I dont think you need High Def patterns to camo up with
- I dont think you NEED electronics outside of a flashlight (one exception is for a GPS...but if your woods savy, a compass will do the job)

3. I am a tree stand guy.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Tom Leemans on November 03, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
I always tell 'em that the deer killed with trad equipment is just as dead as one killed with those speed contraptions.

p.s. I don't qualify for the younger crowd status.  :readit:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: bigleu on November 03, 2009, 09:56:00 AM
for me:

1. there is just something appealing about shooting a piece of wood with a piece of wood. i just got into bowhunting and went strait to trad. i like the simplicity of it and the idea that for hundreds of years people have been shooting relatively the same way.

2. yes and no...i like the newest mac computer, but i drive a 25 year old mercedes. other than a few exceptions, i do like the old school, tried and true methods as well.

3. haven't hunted enough, but i'd say stalker...i'd get bored in a tree stand after too long  :)
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: toehead on November 03, 2009, 10:01:00 AM
1.  bought a compound in 96 sold it in 97 started with a recurve in 98.  hated the mechanical failures on the compound...

2. I bought camo for the first time in 10 yearslast year (walls had a crazy sale)...still have the camo jacket i bought 15 years ago works great...do have an old Bear Co. camo shirt I wear occasionaly.  I think television is going to ruin hunting as we know it.

3.  Love hunting on the ground until I get a feel for the area than I hang a stand...had a store bought ground blind (actually bought two) and gave them both away after everything looked like it was 20 yards farther than it was LOL, so now it's natural ground blinds when on the ground.

If young kids actually got out and hunted (instead of watching the "bamshamalamdingdon whacked that joker" bunch on television I think we would have more "hunters".
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stick_string on November 03, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by toehead:
If young kids actually got out and hunted (instead of watching the "bamshamalamdingdon whacked that joker" bunch on television I think we would have more "hunters".
I cannot tell you how much I agree!!   :clapper:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: TheFatboy on November 03, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
1. I never shot a compound bow, but I don't like them. Every time I tell people I'm into archery, and they ask if they may see my bow, they're always surprised when I pull it out of the bowsock, 'cause they expected to see another compound bow.

2. Well, I love fast, powerful bows. But I'd never go compound just to get the fastest bow. Then again, my bow is already powerful enough to take out pretty much anything!

3. I haven't yet been out hunting with a bow yet, simply because I don't have a license yet. I've hunted with rifles though, and I definetely prefer stalking  :)
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: mscampbell75 on November 03, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
It is to challenge myself.  I love archery.  And I like the simplicity of trad.  I just wish I had found trad years ago.  

The wheels became too easy. Too much like a gun with the trigger release and sites.  So for me the next step was trad.

I will never forget years ago, I used to hunt with a guy I worked with.  His father used a recurve and for the life of me I couldnt figure out why.

It took more than 10years but I now know why.

I hunt mainly out of stands but I do have a couple natural ground blinds  I use if the wind is right.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Cmane07 on November 03, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
I'm 21 and I just love it for the challenge... It just feels so natural when I shoot my recurve and I don need the fastest bow( I do love fast cars tho ha) I could care less about the latest trend and I normally always hunt out of a stand. I love telling people I shoot traditionally and they look at me like I'm crazy and say "can you actually kill a deer with one of those?" ha I tell them it is a bow and not a sling shot
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Broken Arrow 1 on November 03, 2009, 10:17:00 AM
I started shooting Recurves and Longbows when I was 6yrs old continued shooting them till I was 22 went to the store saw a compound asked what is that they told me thats the best bow and arrow on the market. I bought it shot it for a year and a half and then finally realized with the help of some good friends to get rid of that darn contraption. So long story short I Traded my compound for a guitar and a couple bucks bought a new longbow and will never go back to compound shooting.I am 25 now and have a lot of years (good lord willing) to spend in the woods with longbow in hand.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Fishnhunt on November 03, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
1.   Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?  

Pros:
-point of aim is much much much faster
-shooting in the dark is much much much easier b/c no peep and no pins
-shooting from awkward positions is much easier
-the bow is quieter on the draw and on the shot
-its super light for carry b/c I commonly hunt 6AM – noon. break for 2 hrs then 2PM to 7PM.
- fewer moving component to break
- tuning is easier so I can do it myself (or at least try to do it myself) which I could never do w/ compound b/c I didn't try and didn't care.
- its enabled me to meet a great group of guys who are into hunting and not horn porn
-the simplicity, the history, the tradition, the old school challenge
- # 1 reason is its just SO much more fun to shoot.

Cons:
- Practice time eats into my other hobbies (women/fishing).

2. Young folks are typically stereotyped into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold? -  

No, not at all.  I'm going in the opposite direction.  Its weird how so many people get into archery for the challenge and do everything possible to make it as easy as gun hunting.  I have never shot a release in my life so I cannot attest to their ease of use but I have seem MANY first timers practice w/a release for a few days (OR EVEN HOURS) and then shoot kill zone groups at 15-20 yards.  To me, thats not the challenge I was looking for in bowhunting. That's why I always finger shot compounds which took me months to get the hang of (and is still nowhere near perfected) and its also what drove me to shooting trad equip after mastering (and I mean that on a very PERSONAL & SUBJECTIVE level) the compound in my own mind.  I have nothing against compounds, only the way their use is applied.  I have not picked up mine since the first time I picked up a trad bow.  For me, its either trad bow or nothing.
I think one of the main problems today is that lotsa people don't want to put in the time necessary to become proficient w/ the old type gear and the old type hunting. Nowadays its all about instant gratification. Horn porn and obsession with killing big bucks is another problem.  Texans are the worst with that.  I tell my hunting buddy when we go out "I'm going to kill the first legal deer or pig that's positioned for good shot presentation (broadside or quartering away) regardless of what it look like"
One thing to keep in mind though....if you are trying to convince someone to try trad hunting I wouldn't frame it as 'this is real hunting b/c its more of a challenge and your compound bow is not real hunting".   Hunting (whether via compound, recurve, crossbow, gun, atlatl) is a personal thing.  It's a personal challenge and we should feel the right to speak up and voice our opinions but at the end of the day its up to each person individually to know their challenge and a 3rd party should not dis on another hunter's modus operandi.  Me telling someone that their hunt method is not really hunting just smacks of pent up anger.  It would be like telling someone that they have an ugly wife.  The appearance of someone's wife to you as an outsider is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is the husband's viewpoint.  Calling someone's hunt method unchallenging/lame is not the answer. The answer would be to explain why your method is more fun b/c after all (I hope) most of us just want to have fun thru this hunting thing.  And if you really love something the way many of us love trad hunting you will want to show others how its done to bring them into the sport or if they're already a compound shooter to bring them to the dark side by showing em its more fun and more effective.   But we cant assume we know whats best for our fellow hunters.  In 90% of my hunting the recurve trumps b/c its stalking at close distance and recurves win hands down under those conditions.  When compond hunting I missed numerous deer at closer ranges (12 feet and under!!!!) due to sight pin confusion, not being able to and get to anchor quickly enough, not being able to get a shot in the air quick enough, etc!.  Those problems have all been solved by the curve.  If you want to show someone how fun it can be take em shooting and outline the PROs to shooting a recurve. It IS a better weapon!

3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)
Every hunt is different (which is why I love this stuff!) but I usually sit in a tree stand or tripod until 10 AM (or 11AM or Noon depending on how I'm feeling about the spot and how animals are moving).  Then I will get down and stalk.  I never ever ever hunt ground blinds b/c I feel they take away from the whole experience (one of the main reasons I'm out there in the woods is to 'see' stuff and be close to nature and IMO the ground blind limits me from doing so).  Also my bow is 66 AMO and doesn't fit well in a blind. About the closest thing I do to a ground blind is sit up against a big oak tree and let animals come to me.  That's how I arrowed my first deer .... A stalk that led me to one side of an oak tree to get close to a buck about 18 yards from the other side of the tree.  While trying to figure out how to arrow the buck a young deer walked up to me from behind and I slowly turned, swung the bow and let it rip.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Tim Fishell on November 03, 2009, 11:30:00 AM
I am 27 and have never owned a wheelie bow.  I shoot trad because that is what my dad shoots and it is all I've ever known.  

I would say I do and dont fit that mold.  I like most of the old ways.  I like hunting with caplock and flintlock muzzleloaders.  But I also enjoy some modern things as well.  I still enjoy taking my rim fire rifles out and small game hunting with them.  

I enjoy walking around the woods more than anything else.  So I find that I usually end up still hunting.  I do sit in ground blinds and tree stands as well though.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on November 03, 2009, 11:34:00 AM
I'm 36, so I guess that makes me an "old guy" but to answer your question:

I like any advantage I can have with regards to self-reliance. If **it ever hits the fan, I can - at least in theory - build my own and not need to rely on factories. All I need to do now is learn how to fashion my own self bow and knapp stone...   :knothead:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: shikari on November 03, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
I might be 34 yrs old but wa taught by some old time hunters who had taken everything from tigers to just about anything worth shooting in India,was taught tracking by a 74 yr old man who poached till a few yrs ago in india,the man who taught me to shoot was my dad's driver a retired 80 yr old sargent who was highly decorated in the british army in ww2.He taught me how to build machans what to do for leopards.The bows I saw in the meusems in india attracted me to archery in the begining and I started making bamboo bows in india when I was 6 yrs old.
Growing up I went on hunts with my dad's friends and other army officers who were friends of my dad's.
The reason I took up archery after moving to the U.S. is that I love the challange of taking game with the equipment I have made myself,I prefer to stalk game as I do not like to sit still for too long and love stalking ass it is what I grew up doing.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: ishiwannabe on November 03, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
Im 34 and I shot wheels since I was fifteen until three, almost four years ago. I killed numerous deer, turkey and various small game with my wheelie bow.
When I was 14, my dad gave me an old shakespeare recurve, some wooden arrows and said go hunting. I missed turkeys, deer, pretty much everything I shot at.
After I began working, I bought a compound(later finding out that my father was very disappointed in that puchase, although he never said anything).

I began taking game every year. I think there were two years that I didnt harvest a deer.

Enter Shawn Leonard, and one of my best friends Damon Wilber. All thi talk about a bunny hunt with recuves and longbows. I sai I would go, and Damon and I started shooting regularly. We even went on a deer hunt with some close encounters, but no shots.

I had the time of my life. I was excited about the hunt, the simple gear. Not worrying about yardage, what pin, where is my release, etc etc.

I started getting to be an ok shot. Three rabbits later, I committed to form, anchor points and accuracy.

I harvested my first trad deer this year, a scrubby little four point.

Anyway, traditional is the way my dad taught me. I strayed for a while, but I think Im here to stay. Some friends get it, some dont.

Anway, I prefer stands or a good natural ground blind.
I did fall for the speed bug when I was younger, but quickly realized quiet was better.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Westy on November 03, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
I'm 28 (guess I'll be 29 in a week and 1/2) but for me...

1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?

I'm just getting into archery myself (don't even own a bow yet) but in talking to a couple guys that shoot traditional, it seemed like a good fit for me. I like the simplicity of the setup compared to all moving parts on a compound. I also like the thought of shooting instinctively - no sights to rely on or worry about getting knocked out of whack.

2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?

Yes/No - I work in IT so I've always got new technology however I can shut it down in a heartbeat, grab some quality outdoor gear and forget about the daily grind. I'm not a fan of all the "scent lock" stuff, I think it's over priced - I'd rather play the wind.


3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)

Since I haven't had a chance to bow hunt yet, I can only base my response on what I've done in the past. By far I've hunted the most out of blinds (typically natural blinds I've built). Last year was my 1st year in the stand and I can see some advantages but I really enjoy having the animals in close when hunting on the ground - it gives me a huge rush for sure! The place we hunt isn't real big so stalking is something we haven't done yet.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Chester Thompson on November 03, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
1. I have tried to shoot friends compounds, and it was never "natural" to me, line up this with this, make sure that the bow is level, and after about giving the salesman a heart attack several times fro almost dry firing, I put down the compound and never have picked one up again.

2. I don't have the money for all of the latest and greatest stuff, so it does not really matter.

3. From what little hunting I have down I would much rather be on the ground. Either a ground blind or spot and stalk.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: katie on November 03, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
I am 32.  Never had a compound.  My 1st bow was my father's old 1952 Ben Pearson.  I just love the romance of traditional.  No I do not fit the mold.  I love to have old things and bring them back to life.  I hunt all 3 ways.  Just depends!  Good thread.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Kevin007 on November 03, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
I am 34 and I keep my options open. I am not biase towards any method and not shy to say that I enjoy shooting both my compounds and my recurve. I picked up a recurve this spring year and enjoyed it just a much as my compounds. Depends on what mood I am in. I gun hunt and I still like that as well.

Kevin
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: joevan125 on November 03, 2009, 01:13:00 PM
Im a little older than 35 (41) and the reason i made the change this spring is because i have killed 178 deer with a compound. Living in Alabama all my life and hunting all the time thats really not a big number and please dont think im bragging. I just needed a change and i have found it in spades with these trad bows.

I killed 8 deer with my compound last year and all but one shot was under 15yds. I have always wanted a trad bow so this spring i ordered a ACS and WOW am i hooked. I now own 5 custom bows with 2 more on the way.

I love hunting from treestands but shot a decent 8 pointer this weekend from a ground blind 70 feet from our cabin, acorns falling everywhere. It was a 25yd shot and i hit him to far back and then it came a flood so i let him lay overnight and looked for him all day. Im going back tomorrow with a friend of mine who has a dog, i know he is in there but its so thick a rabbit would have a hard time moving around.

Sorry for being so long winded but i just love this trad life.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: House on November 03, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
I'm 34 and yes, I used to shoot a compound.  The only thing I killed with it was a turkey.  Hunted with it somewhat seriously for probably ten years.  I switched to trad about 5 years ago and have killed bull elk and two muley bucks and two turkeys.  So for me the reason for going to trad had nothing to do with it getting too easy, or boring.  Shooting my compound just wasn't any fun!!  I originally got into archery to challenge myself as a hunter, after a few years the only challenge was centering the bullseye at 60 yards, and if I didn't I was frettin' over sight pins and rests.....none of which translated into my becoming a better hunter.  Now I'm enjoying every second spent shooting and hunting, and am enjoying a drastic increase in the number of opportunities to shoot critters.

Do I fit the steriotype gimmick mold....I would have to say NO.  I drive the same 65 ford four wheel drive I rode in as a child (bought off grandma after gramps died), don't own a four wheeler, do own a gps (don't use it much, but happy to have it a couple times  :)  

I'd say 90% of my hunting is stalking with about 10% natural ground blind.  Not that I have any hangups with tree stands or pop ups, just have never used them.  Next season I plan to dabble in tree stand for whitetails and popup for turkeys though, we'll see what transpires.

Good luck to all

Travis
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stik&string on November 03, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
I'm 28 and after rifle hunting and using a wheelie bow for most of my teens, and killing numerous big game animals, hunting lost some of it's allure and turned from hunting into killing. After looking at the sport from an outsiders perspective, I stepped away from hunting due to the loss of excitment for a few years. Then six years ago I was cleaning out a neighbors attic for her and found an old bear recurve, when a made a cooment on how "neat" (the lady was almost 90) the bow was she offered it to me as a reward for helping her out. I took it and bought a new string for it. Although the limbs were twisted, I strung it up and shot a few arrows. Instantly I was hooked and bought a few cheaper production longbows. I have hunted every year since then with a longbow and despite getting a lot of flak from my buddies I am having the time of my life. I have taken some small game with the trad equipment but have yet to harvest any big game, but I don't care. Hunting is now about the pursuit, the challenge, and the hunt itself and not how many, or how the big the animal harvested is.

I used to fit the sterotypical mold of buying new faster, expensive products every year, but I found that once I made the switch to trad equipment, the rest followed suit. It can be hard sometimes being the only member of a hunting party without scentlock, or camo for that matter, but looking to the icons of the past I know these things are not necessary to be successful.

I hunt on the ground 100% of the time and probably split this time evenly between spot and stalk and using ground blinds.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Zradix on November 03, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
I'm 34. I bow hunted with a compound for 17 years. I loved it. I was into the fastest, smallest spaceblaster I could find. I still think they're neat as heck. 2 1/2 years ago I shot a doe with my compound. I realized I didn't feel as excited as I used to. It almost felt like "another day at the office" Right then and there I knew something had to change! So I did a little research and picked up a used recurve, had some wood arrows made. Now shooting my compound was a lot of fun. I thought I worked hard to shoot well with it. I felt like an archer. It wasn't until I picked up this trad. bow that I realized what archery was and how EASY shooting my wheelie was. Sometimes it gets to be really hard not to take my compound into the woods. I've passed on 3 deer this year that I would have not a second thought on taking the shot with my wheelie. But I'm committed to this wood stuff. It'll happen...right?? ;~) Anyway, I was just looking for something to excite me again. Maybe after this I'll try atlatal. lol
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Zradix on November 03, 2009, 01:47:00 PM
Sorry that was answer #1
#2 Sure I like fast cars, fast bikes, and fast high tech stuff is cool. But the simple things are great too.
#3 I'm a ground hunter. 85% deadfall blind, 15% stalk
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Kenneth on November 03, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?

- I hunt with both but prefer trade because it feels more natural and I feel like I'm truly connected with nature when I have a stickbow in my hand and I don't get that feeling with a wheelie bow.  However I don't eat any meat that's not wild game so when the freezer is empty I'll reach for the wheels or a firearm.  I also use wheels when it's really cold outside until I get used to shooting my longbow with thick gloves and clothes on.

2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?

-It's been an on and off thing for me over the years; I got wrapped up in the BS and had to have all the lastest gimmicks thinking I couldn't possibly kill an animal with anything less.  Then while home in WV, I saw my old Bear wheelie bow that I had ripped the sights off hanging there and thought about all the deer I'd killed with it, and I remembered that I never had anything else but that bow and arrows and the clothes on my back.  I still buy some things like a decoy, or scent but I'm trying to stick to the basics now.


3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)

- I prefer to stalk and still hunt on the ground, but I've only got a little 2 acre chunk of woods I have permission to hunt here in Indiana so I bought my first treestand and have been using it.  When I finally get access to some more land I'll be on the ground again.

Ken
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: J. Cook on November 03, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
I'm 29...
1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?
I still hunt with both and shoot both year round.  I enjoy them equally and for different reasons.  I actually like the mechanical tinkering and "puzzle solving" that goes into setting up a compound.  But I love the allure of shooting trad.  
2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?
I disagree with this statement.  Young people shoot whats available.  Where I grew up there were NO trad shops...so obviously a shop owner will sell you what he can, it's a business.  I feel there is way more self-rightesnous, snobbishness, and prejudices within the trad community towards the compound shooters.  There are bums in both genres, just as there are phenomenal archers and ethic sportsman in each genre.  
3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)
I hunt stands and still-hunt.  I move stands alot via portable and climbers, as I strictly hunt from scouting sign and choose not to hunt bait.  but that's merely a personal choice.  

There is more than enough room for compounds and traditional in a man's life!    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: robtattoo on November 03, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?

Well, when I shot target archery (both compound & recurve) I found myself being disappointed if I missed my spot, rather than happy if I hit it. I was expecting to hit everything I aimed at & got disheartened if I didn't. The more this happened, the more I felt I was aproaching archery a$$ backwards. It was supposed t be a fun challenge, not a stressfull chore.
As soon as I picked up my first longbow, without sights I knew that I'd found what I was looking for. Every hit was (and still is) a celebration & every miss is another reason to keep practicing. I'll never be as good at this as I'd like to be, but because I recognise that, I'm never dissapointed.

I never hunted with a compound & to be honest never wanted to. I don't think ever conciously 'picked' traditional hunting, it just kinda happened. I hunted with air-rifles back in the UK, due to the stresses & legal limitations of owning firearms, so the close range stalking  & hide-hunting aspect of huning seemed normal to me. I never warmed to the idea of being able to take game at extended ranges.


2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?

Well, kinda. I want the fastest traditional bow I can get, up to a point. However I don't try to aim forthe fastest arrow speed possible. I translate fast into efficienct & use that efficiency to shove a heavy arrow at moderate to fast speed. I don't have all the bells & whistles, in fact I've only ever bought 2 new bows. If someone brought out a new bow tomorrow that was faster than the bows I'm shooting now, I wouldn't care. I'm happy with what I've got, although I had to kiss a lot of frogs to find where I wanted to be.


3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)

I like spot & stalk, but out of nescessity down here I hunt out of a treestand. I'd take 1 week of spot & stalk for Texas hogs & Javies over a month of sitting in a stand for Whitetails (which I firmly believe are a mythical creature  :rolleyes: )
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Bowspirit on November 03, 2009, 02:22:00 PM
Been waiting for a thread like this...

I just turned 21 this year, too...

1) I have no idea where this urge to use a traditional bow came from. My mother never liked hunting, and my father quit long before I was born. I was never around it, at all. But it just showed up around 10 years of age. All I knew was, I wanted to hunt. I wanted to bowhunt. And I wanted to do it with traditional tackle.
My dad set me up with everything I needed, except I was given a compound instead of a recurve. Said it was the only way to shoot a bow these days. So I used it. Shot it with fingers, barebow. Used heavy 2117's tipped with Bear Razorheads, rather than the usual graphite darts/mechanicals or replaceable heads. But it still didn't feel right. So after the season (passed on 14 deer, the last I would see for some time.) I finally got my hands on a Bear recurve. Been feeling right ever since...

2) Tough call. This year I've been using a longbow with wood arrows, and I can't say any of that is a gimmick. Not to mention, I've never been happier with my tackle.
Although I do tend to follow the crowd sometimes. When I shot carbons, I was big into EFOC, as are alot of people. I shoot Surewood shafts, which are very popular right now. And I just slapped down more money than I care to admit on a set of the new woodsman heads.
In my defense however, these aren't gimmicks. They're popular for a reason. EFOC is popular because it works, and works well. Surewood shafts have such a following because they are supremely good wood shafts. And the new woodsmans are merely a great broadhead, with all the slight flaws removed. I shoot what I shoot because I know in my heart that it'll work, not because some flashy packaging "guarantees" it'll make me a better hunter.

3) Man oh man, give me all three. I shyed away from stands for a while because of an extreme fear of heights. But a friend got me back in them 2 years ago, and it's been love ever since. Sure, they get you outta the animals awareness level (a little bit; not entirely) and give you more time to prep for a shot, but you want to know why I use them? The view. Not because it allows you to see deer earlier. No, I just mean the fantasic views; best in the woods. Darn those lucky squirrels and birds.
Blinds are fun. I used one all through 2008's spring turkey season before selling it to someone who needed it more than I. But the moment I through a little more cash together, you can bet I'm getting another one.
Stalking is just something I'm not that good at. But I'm not that good a deer hunter either, so who really cares? It's just too much excitement to pass up. Trying to take a deer on the same essential level as a bear/coyote/bobcat. How can that not be amazing?
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Altiman94 on November 03, 2009, 02:57:00 PM
1.

I hunt with both.  I have taken many deer with a compound and still hunt with it.  I haven't yet taken a large game animal with my trad bow, but am working on it.  The allure of a trad bow came to me as I noticed I was focusing too much on the gimmicks and wanted to get back to actual hunting.  I wanted to make myself a better hunter.

2.

I like both new and old.  I prefer older equipment when it comes to farm equipment because i like the heavier built stuff.  But having something new and shiny is always fun too.

3.

I do all 3, but prefer to hunt from a treestand.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on November 03, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
1. Romance / Nostalgia / History / Fun / Challenge / Beauty.

2. Nope.

3. Stalking, mostly; or waiting behind a tree next to a water point or carcass.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: BHTGdogs on November 03, 2009, 04:11:00 PM
Im 24 and I choose trad over compound because it got to easy if I saw a deer I wanted to shoot it was already in range. just didnt feel like hunting to me!
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: longrange on November 03, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
I'm 28 and I chose traditional archery because of the simplicity of it. I don't have to worry about knocking off sight pins that you with a compound. I've shot a compound since my early teens and before giving it up I was caught up with the speed of them. The faster the speed and flatter the trajectory makes it easier to make the further shots, and that in my opinion is the downfall of bowhunting. Bowhunting is supposed to about how close you an get and not about how far you can shoot. I think alot of people, including myself, have forgot all about that. Since turning trad I've paced myself with my shots, which in turn, has helped my aiming and concentration.

When it comes to hunting, I've always always prefered to still hunt/spot and stalk, unless it's been a long day and then I prefer to hunt from a stand.

It's took me a few years but i'm finally glad to be rid of my training wheels! Hopefully I can try to change some family members minds on traditional archery. I've already changed my wifes mind and she is willing to give it a try!
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: JackP on November 03, 2009, 05:13:00 PM
I'm 19 .. Started hunting with a compound when I was 12. Shot one with a compound then shot my buddies Big Horn, ever since then I have had no desire to shoot a compound again. I found shooting a recurve or longbow was ten times more fun the shooting a compound. I also enjoy hearing people say "you hunt with that old equipment?!" after they ask what kind of bow I have.

As far as having the fastest equipment, when I was younger I always did, I thought that's what was needed to kill an animal. After finding this site, I realized that is no longer my opinion. Currently I have a Whisperstik Mojostik which in my opinion is a very quick bow, but I am currently hunting with my buddies longbow that is quite a bit slower then my Whisperstik. I find enjoyment hunting with something that is not the fastest thing in the world, gives the animals somewhat of a chance instead of a scary fast compound.

I have tried to stalk deer and other animals and have never really had any luck. I enjoy sitting in a stand and waiting for deer to come to me.

Jack
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: kevgsp on November 03, 2009, 05:17:00 PM
I'm 28 and I've never owned a compound.  I shoot trad bows cause they are just plain fun to shoot, and I love the look on peoples faces when they see what we hunt with.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: broketooth on November 03, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
im 39 yrs so i guess i really dont qualify... but i did hunt with a compound in my twentys, and not for very long i might add. i had been on a hunt and was hunting from a tree stand. i had a slip and dropped my wheelie bow. after i had the bow fixed i had tried with it again but it wasnt the same. i sold it. then one wekend i was watching american shooter , and saw byron ferguson doing the shot of the week with his long bow. i knew right then and there that trad was what i wanted to do. ive been shooting trad for 14 yrs now
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: vtmtnman on November 03, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by J. Cook:
  I feel there is way more self-rightesnous, snobbishness, and prejudices within the trad community towards the compound shooters.  
:clapper:  
Since I started shooting trad again I've noticed this.

On to the questions-
I'm 29.
1-
I really didn't pick it.I guess my dad picked if for me when he bought me a garage sale Bear grizzly.I started out with that around age 10,missed alot of deer.I was always taping things on it for a sight.Had three compounds inbetween now and then.Something in me just wanted to pick it back up.So I started shooting and getting tuned up.Then I joined here and went to Vermonster's for shooting lessons.Stared shooting correctly and the rest fell into place.I shoot both,but I love trad for the self reliance.I can literally make everything,take it to the woods,and hunt.Can't do that with compounds.

2-I have my moments of wanting new stuff,but 95% percent of the time I don't fit that mold.

3-I prefer treestands,but I stalk sometimes on new ground.Blinds are new to me.I've tried to shoot from them and it will take alot of getting used to it before I'm hunt ready from one.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: HATCHCHASER on November 03, 2009, 06:14:00 PM
I got bored with the compound.  Picked up a longbow and never looked back.  I love the flight of an arrow.

No I do not fit the mold.  I like high carbon steel knives, leather-lined norweigen welt boots (non gore-tex), and fly fishing with slow action rods.

I prefer still hunting, but find myself in a tree more often.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: frassettor on November 03, 2009, 07:11:00 PM
I'm 36 and shot a Compound for 17 years.I used to trade my bows off ounce mabey twice a year.

I always had " a thing" for Traditional archery, and the more and more I got into it the less and less I liked the compound. I feel that the Longbow is "my calling" and will never pick up a compound again. I've shot alot of deer with my compound and out of all of the deer I shot NONE of them comes even close to the sense of accomplishment I feel when I did it with my longbow.

Theres a  overwhelming feeling of PRIDE when you finally connect with with a deer, bear, pig ect.... Words can not describe it. Knowing YOU did it without the help of rangefinders,sights ect...Is UNBELIEVABLE. Its all you peroid.

I have alot of friends of mine that just don't get it. To them what makes you a "man, or a Hunter" is strictley the size of the antlers. To me its the experience, and  feeling closer to nature. Its sort of  "religous" to me, and take it very personal. Its not about the "killing", its about the journey!


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Happy shooting
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on November 03, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
I learned with a recurve.  Moved to a wheelie bow when I was 15 because it was what was available at the time.  I hunted with it for years, it was fast, I missed deer with it killed a lot of carp with it.  It was heavy and cumbersome.

I shot a recurve at a 4-H booth with my wife's 7 year old cousin.  Not to brag but I hit every single target exactly where I was aiming. Granted it was 15 yards and less. I shocked the booth workers and to be honest myself.  They gave me another bunch of arrows and asked me to shoot again this time at what they asked me to.  I hit every single target between the eyes (as asked).

I decided right then to put down the training wheels, I ride better without.  

1.I think killing a deer will be more rewarding.
2.It's lighter
3.I like the poetry of a simple bow
4.they are quieter
5.I prefer the crowd and camaraderie of trad archers over any other outdoors man.

1. I hunt from trees and ground.
2. I would stalk given the opportunity but am not good at it so don't do it much.

1. I love this thread

Charlie
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Brook Trout on November 03, 2009, 07:29:00 PM
Just turned 29.
1)I shoot longbows, because they are just way more fun to shoot than compounds.  The reason that I bought my first though was because I didn't like all the gadgets and techno involved in compound archery.
2)No
3)All three, probably more ground blinds than anything, then tree stands, mixed in with occasionally still hunting.  I don't mind hunting from tree stands. I just get tired of carrying portable around for hunting on public land.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: LimbLover on November 03, 2009, 07:37:00 PM
I'm 27. I got into shooting because I wanted a stress reliever and didn't see shooting a bow with optic sights, cams that let you hold them back forever, and finger releases as real archery. I still don't. If I miss a shot I like to know that it is me that missed the shot, not a sight being off. I love instinctive shooting.

I've never been a hunter until now either. The idea of stalking up on game with a traditional bow just seemed so natural - honorable. A true challenge.

I hunt on the ground - still or stalk. I'll probably try a stand too but I haven't bought one yet. I like being on the ground.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Covey on November 03, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
I feel old I'm 37!! When I put a wood bow in my hand my whole hunting world changed, its difinitely about the journy! I have a 10 year old son and I want him to excperiance the true meaning and romance of traditional bowhunting! theres just somthing special about it!! Jason
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Longbow Jake on November 03, 2009, 08:21:00 PM
Im sixteen I shot a compound since I was 8  just switched to trad I got the montana longbow 50# 28'' a month ago and I already shoot it better and feel more confident while shooting but for me its the simplicity and longing for a more simple time I always thought I was in the wrong era and I got my first deer last year with a smoke pole really didnt feel much and today two small bucks came in 5 steps from me never presented a shot and I was more exited then than any other moment in my life and I dont ever go off what the other guys do and ill hunt on the ground,stalk,treestand you name it sorry for rambling im just hooked.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: beaver#1 on November 03, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
im a simple kind of man. i cant stand to even sight in my rifle for work.  im 25 and absolutly hate all the hype about all the scent masks, faster lighter crap.  any one can go out and kill things with the stuff they have out now.  it takes a real  hunter  with all skills of hunting to harvest game with out sights, without rangfinders, high fence cages and decoys.  to the elders of our way, thank you for holding to it and teaching our younger genration
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: 4est trekker on November 03, 2009, 10:09:00 PM
1) My dad lives by the motto, "If you can make it, why buy it?"  I can remember working with him as a kid in his woodshop and putting a string on any stick I could find that would bend.  Now the sticks are prettier and shoot farther, but I still enjoy showing dad my latest build.  I've never had the desire or need to shoot a compound.  They get a lot of people into the joy of hunting that would otherwise not do it, but there is something indescribable about taking an animal with a bow and arrow made from materials found in the same patch of timber you sight them down in.  A beautiful harvest start to finish.

2) Nope.  I would love to split wood, drive a team, chink my cabin walls, write a real letter, do business face-to-face, and cuddle up with my wife by a fire on a cold winter night...although I write this while I sit in front of the newest MacBook Pro!  Ha ha!  Maybe I could keep my computer and modern medicine!    :)

3) I mainly hunt from a blind, whether natural brush blinds or my pop-up.  I also enjoy stalking, but am contented just to get close to game when doing so.  Sometimes I just sit and watch them pass and smile knowing I fooled 'em.

Great questions!  I could go on all day.  Thanks for posting this thread.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on November 04, 2009, 01:25:00 AM
34 here, been shooting trad about 5 or 6 years. started bowhunting when I was 10 and always wanted to take a deer with trad gear. got my first the first year out with a lonbow and ain't never looked back Plus I think trad bows look cooler than compounds anyways.
Don't fit no stereotype most people just think I ain't wired up right anyways so I figure why dissapoint'em and keep'em guessing. LOL
I hunt anyway I can legally and every chance I get in the woods but prefer a stand or good natural ground blind.
Kris
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: josef2424 on November 04, 2009, 07:09:00 AM
I am 16 and got into archery about three years ago. I started with a starter wheelie bow and then progressed to a Hoyt Vectrix pulling 67#. Last season I shot my first deer with a "bow". It was really fun and all, but it seemed a lot like gun hunting at that point. I could still shoot out to 60 yards with ease, I was still lugging around a hunk of metal through the woods, and I had to make sure I was always sighted in and whatnot. So at the end of that season I ordered a Bear Montana longbow, which I quickly renamed ukasuhi, pulling 50# @ 28". I have let a lot of deer pass this season that I could have easily shot with my hunk of metal, but I find that just carrying a longbow into the woods is better than shooting a deer with a compound. A couple weeks ago I shot at my first deer with Ukasuhi. The arrow bounced off her back and she ripped outta there, but it was some of the most fun I've ever had hunting. I doubt I am going to return to the compound. I did recently get into making selfbows thanks to a lot of help from you people. I should be done with a sinew backed hickory bow by the end of the week, and I hope to be hunting with a selfbow next year. My dad says that if I continue on this progressively traditional track, I should be standing in the middle of the woods with a loin cloth and a club during deer season by the time I'm 40. I just smiled and secretly liked the idea.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: BJP on November 04, 2009, 08:01:00 AM
Im 25 started out with a compound but never could get the hang of sights i always canted my bow and didnt like all the mechanics. been shooting trad since i was 16 and havent looked back. Dont need technology but a comfortable tree stand and a GPS are nice.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: BowHuntingFool on November 04, 2009, 08:31:00 AM
Great thread! At 43 I'm too old to answer this so I'll just enjoy the read!    :D   Awesome!   :clapper:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stick_string on November 04, 2009, 09:31:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by BowHuntingFool:
Great thread! At 43 I'm too old to answer this so I'll just enjoy the read!     :D    Awesome!    :campfire:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: mwmwmb on November 04, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
well, I fell out of this category a few weeks ago (just turned 36). But i will throw in my $.02.
1. I have hunted with a rifle my hole life. and got into archery fairly recently. after afew harvests with the wheels, I thought that traditional would be more appealing. I can always use rifle season for meat if i have to.

2. nope. I have the free cell phone, dont own an ipod, still listen to and collect vinyl records, and generally like things simple.
3. stands.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: elk ninja on November 04, 2009, 11:53:00 AM
Giess I am headed towards the "older" end of things... I'll be 33 at the peak of the rut (11/15).  Anyway, I did not grow up in ahunting family, but it has always been in my blood.  Dad hunted when he was younger, still has his old Remington 870, but I have no recolection of this.  As a youngster though, lots of cub and boy scouts, lots of flyfishing, lots of camping, so when I moved to Arizona for the Marines, I hooked up with a friend who showed me some of the ropes of bowhunting.  I had a cheap PSE wheelie bow, he had a nice Hoyt with a wooden handle... my Dad is a hobby woodworker and I have always apprecited wood, so I wanted a bow with a wooden handle, then I stumbled on a copy of Traditional Bowhunter in the bookstore and that was all she wrote.  Bought several used recurves and longbows off **** (in the good old days of **** when it was more of a flea market/ garage sale), and fell in love with the simple beauty of a stickbow.  I definately buck the trend of more/faster/right now type of thinking that predominates my generation (though I think it is progressivly more pervasive as the generations come)... and for me it is stalking that I love, I have a treestand I bought on clearance, but have never in my life used it.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: NEB on November 04, 2009, 12:30:00 PM
Great thread.

I am 34, and started bow hunting when I was 13 with a compound (and a rifle in the same year).  I did not have parents that hunted, but they supported me in my passions and I am thankful for that.  I would have been easily convinced that trad gear was the way to go, but no one I knew used a trad bow.  

I bought my first trad bow, a Bear Grizzly from Bass Pro Shops, when I was in college.  After years of shooting the latest greatest fast whatever and shooting and winning 3D tournaments, I grew tired of all the crap associated with a compound.  There was always a screw coming lose or a tweak to be done here or there, and I wanted something more simple.

I shoot self bows, longbows, recurves, rifles, handguns, shotguns, and muzzleloaders.  I love all of them.  But I think trad archery is similar to fly fishing, it is not only a sport, but also an art.  I love that about trad bowhunting.

I hunt from the ground mostly, but also like spot/stalk, and treestands.  It depends on the situation.

Neil
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Horner on November 04, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
I was raised in a gun hunting family.  When I got out of High School and started working I wanted to extend my deer hunting so I bought a crossbow.  I hunted with it for six years and had some great success.  However something was missing.

I had always seen the magazines with traditional bows in them.  I loved the old school look of a traditional bow.

So I got one and have been hunting with a traditional bow ever since.

I have got to say there have been moments when I wish I would have had my old crossbow back.  Every time I get like that,  I just think of the button buck I got with my longbow and how I felt.  It always makes me feel better about what I am trying to do.

So the one reason I would say that brought me to traditional bow hunting is---- THE BOWS THERE BEAUTIFUL!!!
With an added bonus of doing something that is not easy!!!    :)


ohhh, one more thing.  I am also a tree stand hunter.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Bush on November 04, 2009, 12:45:00 PM
I just turned 30.  I have been shooting trad for 6 years, and I never cared about the fastest bow, or the gimmics.  In my opinion the reason why the younger crowd is more likely to favor the fastest bow or the game ears etc etc is that they are much earlier in their archery career simply because of age, and if they don't have a mentor, they get all of their information from Monster Bucks 1-90.  I didn't know anyone else who was in archery, when I started, and I tried a lot of things until I found what I liked.  But you learn pretty quickly that most of the stuff in archery is heavy on marketing and light on design.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Goke on November 04, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
I agree. Great Post. Figure I'll answer before I turn 36 in a couple weeks.

1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?

The way I see it, I didn't pick trad, it picked me. Every time I am asked this question, I struggle to adequately quantify why. As a result, I've stopped trying and leave it at this -- when I pick up a stick bow it feels right, not only in my hand but also in my head and most important, in my heart. When I pick up a wheel bow it doesn't. End of story.  

I have nothing against Wheel Bows, Wheel Bow hunters or gun hunters for that matter. I have done all of that and some of my best freinds and family hunt with wheels. I don't respect them any less. In fact, there are a few things that, on occassion, I continue to hunt with a gun. For me personally, trad just provides more personal and spiritual satisfaction. It doesn't stop me from trying to convince my non trad friends and family to pick up a stick bow. Not under the guise that it is better, more pure or anything like that but simply because it has brought me alot of personal satisfaction and they may find that as well. If not, its their choice.

2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?

yes and no. Not really into the better faster gimmics, but will not hesitate to try the new stuff.

3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)

Mostly stands and blinds. But also love the spot and stalk for certain things.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: tcw on November 04, 2009, 03:21:00 PM
I'm pretty new to deer hunting and have yet to kill a deer.  I want my first to be by bow though, so all the deer I could have killed with a gun are still running free...  I'll get them eventually.

31 yrs old.  Brother-in-law gave me a 60's Ben Pearson and I fell in love with it immediately.  Around the same time someone gave me a compound.  I've shot both, and am currently hunting with the wheels, but only until my recurve shooting is more consistent.  I am very excited to hunt with a glorified stick next year.

1) Love the simplicity and greater challenge of the sticks.
2) always loved the simple, pure forms of doing things.
3)only stand hunted so far.  Love it though.

I 2nd the motion that a few on here are overly prejudice to wheeled bow hunters.  It is tiny, fractional difference in a person that makes them choose one over the other.  Lighten up, gents.

I also have to say that this site rules and there is a powerful, dominant urge to help one another along.  I have learned a lot just getting on here and reading/asking questions.  Thanks to all of you.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Tyler2045 on November 04, 2009, 03:35:00 PM
I chose it because I enjoy it. I like blacksmithing, I like cutting wood with an ax. I like wood fires. I like church, I just wish i had enough time to practice so that I could put down my compound for good.But with school 2 days a week full time job and preaching on Sunday i don't have time to hunt or practice.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stick_string on November 04, 2009, 04:50:00 PM
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Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: eman614 on November 04, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
i'm 24 now, and i got my first recurve when i was 6. thats when it all started. all of the men in my family have hunted with trad bows at some point or another. started hunting with a compound when i was 11, because it was the only bow i had with heavy enough draw weight. killed my first deer with it that same year. after that i found the wheels hard to put down. they made it easy. though i never completely put down my recurve. my uncles shoot recurves so whenever i shot with them id shoot mine. then last year i decided that the wheels weren't what i wanted any more. i was looking for something with less certainty. i haven't looked back since.

if anything i'm going in the opposite direction. as far as camo goes i get what ever is cheap. mostly bdu's.i don't use coverscents or scent eliminators much. don't use gps. this year i decided to make my own laminated longbow, and somehow managed to kill a deer with it. now i wan't to make a selfbow and rivercane arrows with stone points, and give that a try. maybe next year.

i like treestands and stalking. most of the hunting i do is stalking. except for my parents place, and that because its wide open and hard to sneek. i use treestands there. i'm not big on ground blinds, but then again i,ve never used one.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: varmint101 on November 04, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
1. I don't.  I shoot for a compound company and love archery in general.  I love trad bows for their simplicity in all aspects.  For me, there's nothing like a broken and bloody wooden arrow.  I love it all.  There is nothing wrong with either camp.  There are morons and arrogant 'my bow is the only bow' people in both trad and compound shooters.

2. Fast is neat, but I truely get annoyed at guys dropping arrow weight so they can keep their arrow speed above 300fps.  I believe in a heavy arrow in compounds and trad bows.  Speed be darned.  I also find it funny asking guys asking how fast a trad bow is.  Figures are nice to know in determining certain things, but come on.  Not sure what it matters in the end.  Tune your bow and make the shot.

3.  I prefer in all of my hunting to spot and stalk.  It's the most fun and andrenalin pumping hunting I do.  However most of my bow deer are killed in tree stands.

I am 28.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: the longbowkid on November 04, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
I am 14, hows that for young?  :)  i was going to buy a compound, but got to shooting dads old browning recurves and i was hooked! a montana longbow later, I was addicted. i might add I won second in the NC state trad championships a couple months later. my journey is off to a great start.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Hogdgz on November 04, 2009, 09:01:00 PM
I am 25, and shot compounds for years. The wheels were just way to easey and I harvested alot of deer and hogs with it, and it just wasnt a challenge anymore. i got tired of everyone worrying about speed and only the newest bow was the best. I changed over to trad gear about 3 years ago and havent looked back. I havent harvested near as many animals but the challenge, fellowship, and my love for archery has really grown since then. I love trad gear!!!
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: yekrut on November 04, 2009, 09:24:00 PM
I am 32and I shoot it becasue I guess, well I am traditional in a sense! So why not shoot it, Its fun and not so complicated as a wheel bow, I love all bows, I love all archery! But shooting my recurve is fun and I love  a challenge. I just love to shoot arras!!
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Travisc406 on November 04, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
I like simple! I am 33 I had ever bow built to god and was in and out of traditional for the last 15 years. I don't know yet cause all I have killed is rabbits, but it really makes you feel like you did something when you get it with a tradbow. Compounds these day's are at a point that guys are shooting them like there rifles. You see them at the range the day before opening trying to get them sighted in. Is that archery?

Cons I personally experience is with my limited time I have it makes it hard to dedicate all my time to just trad archery I like to fish as well. Where there is a will there is a way.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Ray Borbon on November 05, 2009, 12:59:00 AM
I am just over 35 but whatever.

I chose traditional archery because of the simplicity with the equipment. It's raw, simple, effective and challenging. You can't be good at it unless you put in some effort.

Overall most of the hunting I partake in is by method of ambush or spot and stalk. The large sections of wilderness areas nearby permit this sort of technique..

The speed of the bow is interesting but at 25 yards it is not very relevant in my choice of bows. I seek a comfortable , light, and simple bow which can take abuse and that I am not afraid to scratch up. The last thing I want to be worried about is slipping down some grassy slope and having my bow fail to be in working order afterwards. The fact that I can put my takedown bow in my pack and assemble it once again without tools sums up what I want from my bow when I hunt bears in the mountains for example.

The techno bows just seemed like the typical fads which I have always been disinterested in. It's not the equipment which makes the good hunter. It is the person. I knew that long before getting my first bow.

Simply put - traditional archery is practical and also has the nostalgic appeal.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: saumensch on November 05, 2009, 05:44:00 AM
I am 25, and i never owned a compound, shot one once and it just didnt feel good, noisy, mechanicly etc...
So i started trad and will stick with it, for its quietness, simplicity and its faster! not the arrow is faster, but i can shoot five till my wheelie friends have sighted in.

I am a bit into those new gadgets, especially when it comes to computers and cameras, but all else i prefer old fashioned, for example wood stoves (never owned a microwave), live music fromm a fiddle and a guitar instead of discobeats etc.  

Havent hunted with the bow yet due to its banned in my country, but riflewise i prefer stalking and stillhuntnig, its more challenging and i love to be part of whats going on, not just watch from above.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: TheFatboy on November 05, 2009, 06:09:00 AM
I can't believe that some countries ban bowhunting. I'm very happy that it's legal in Denmark.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stick_string on November 05, 2009, 08:32:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by saumensch:
Havent hunted with the bow yet due to its banned in my country, but ...
...you should move!!!  :banghead:    :banghead:  


 :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: flntknp17 on November 05, 2009, 10:28:00 AM
I will add my reply.  I am 28 and have been trad bowhunting since I was 13.  I guess I never knew any other way.  I have been making bows since I was a small child and was never interested in a compound..........just seemed like too much to go wrong with all the cables and strings and pins.  Plus I was really into flintknapping in high school and primitive archery dovetailed well with that.  

I shot trad bows exclusively until I was about 18 and then I started shooting a lot at a local club (about 90% compound shooters) and thought that competetive shooting looked like fun.  I went to several shoots and was hooked.  The only problem was that there were almost always zero trad shooters there (seems like trad shooters have an almost universal aversion to scoring things and being competetive).  I started shooting a compound for target and still do.  I have won 8 state titles in Iowa since and think that living in both worlds of archery has been very good for me.  I can satiate my competetive juices with the compound and my primal juices with my trad bows.  I still hunt with a trad bow (often a selfbow and stone points) and always will.........maybe I would go back to trad only if there was ever anyone to shoot against.

Hope I don't get flamed for being "multicultural".  A lot of trad folks look down on me for shooting both........but to me its all archery and we need to stick together and not be eliteist.  I think the trad elitism that is sometimes rampant does no good for the sport.  I am a hard core trad guy at heart, but I love gadgets and doodads and target archery too.

Hope this all makes sense.

Matt
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: katie on November 05, 2009, 01:05:00 PM
flntknp17
Well said :^)
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: TBone07 on November 05, 2009, 01:19:00 PM
I started shooting compound bows when I was 16 and was pretty good with them. I won tournaments and killed deer, but something wasn't meshing with it all. I started shooting a recurve under the guidance of my seasoned neighbor (he knows his stuff) and have not stopped since. I started shooting them at 18, and I am having way more fun now. I have killed more deer, won more tournaments, and made a lot more friends shooting traditional. The simplicity of the system is what turned me onto it, no pins or mechanical devices to have to worry about, and it puts you closer to the heart of the sport in my opinion, it does not get any better than stick and string. Now I just hope my Black Widow can connect on another nice one this year. Good luck fellas! -Nate
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: buckeyebowhunter on November 05, 2009, 01:29:00 PM
Hey stick_String i like your post and it seems to be the truth. I am eighteen and hunt stictly with my longbow and recurve. This is my third year hunting with traditional equipment. All my buddys hunt with wheelies and its just not my thing. I love trad equipment. I believe the main reasons i am addicted to trad is due to a video of Paul Brunner that i saw when i was young, and a friend of mine that i met a few years ago by the name of Tracy Trickett. Since then he has made me a few bows and i absolutely love them.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: stick_string on November 05, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
Sweet!!  I really did not know that there were this many of us!!    :archer:
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 05, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
Ahhhh.Patience is a virtue young grasshopper.If the younger guys would watch Robin (Errol Flynn) Hood they would want traditional gear.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Richie Johnston on November 05, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
I'm 34 and just getting into trad archery after shooting my wheel bow about a year and a half.  I like both styles of archery.  I have not hunted yet with my longbow but I will when I have put my time in with it. I've killed many ground squirrels (common pest in California)at long range with with my wheel bow and cannot expect that kind of accuracy with my longbow.  I'm sure I can expect to kill plenty of rabbits, pigs, or hopefully a deer with my longbow.  As my wheel bow gets less challenging the more I will become a trad-bow hunter.  I am already enjoying my longbow more just shooting targets in the yard. My two older boys are 8 and 5 and they like shooting their recurves and wheel bows. They have killed rabbits with their wheel bows but have not hunted with their recurves yet. That will come with time and practice.  I feel like my compound bow is what sparked my interest in traditional archery. I think I may someday become strictly a traditional shooter but not for a while.

I have not used a tree stand yet but I think nothing could be more fun than walking.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: shakey slim on November 05, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
a hippie taught me about woods and the respect of all there / we talked long about the killin with firearms and as far as i can tell the modern compound is all but a firearm ////// is only me but i use recurve for hunting
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Over&Under on November 05, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by stick_string:
Hey Guys/Ladies,
I have some questions for you all and just curious if we think the same:

1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?
2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?
3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)

I am 28, and been shooting trad for almost about 5 years.  I shot compounds since I can remember even shot for Martin for a short time.   My father shot a compound at the time so I kinda just followed suit.  He had stickbows when he was a kid, and loved them, and we always talked about switching to trad, but never made the move.  As I got older and saw more guys shooting trad, it got more interested.  

Finally had a friend offer to trade one of my old compounds for one of his longbows, I jumped on it!  Soon after that my Dad made the switch and we both have never looked back since.

 It brought back the joy in archery, and brought on all new challenges, and ways of approaching things.  The feeling of accomplishment and personal achievment keeps me shooting trad, well... and all those beautiful piecies of wood art!  I also like the aspect of function.  The idea of tuning your setup to maxamize penetration and the continued struggle to perfect form is just plain fun!

I would say that I try to be balanced with the new and old.  I like alot of the new gadgets, but in archery the idea is to stay close to what the sport was originally, and compounds seem to have lost sight of that.  Nothing against them really, but like the muzzel loaders of late, they seem to gone a little too far for my taste.

I enjoy all aspect of hunting with a longbow.  I don't hunt stands very often out west here, but have a few times and hope to start using them more often.  Spot and stalk is and will always be my favorite way of hunting.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: wihill on November 05, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
31 years young here...

Hey Guys/Ladies,
I have some questions for you all and just curious if we think the same:

1. Why do you pick Trad hunting over Wheel Bows?

I started using traditional bows last season and have used them exclusively this season with great success.  At one time I had 6 compounds and one recurve - now I've got 6 longbows and one compound.  Priorities and enjoyment of the sport shifted for me.  I enjoy both styles of bows, but my goals for each are very different.  I strive for consistancy and placement with my traditional bows, but my compound is more a function of extreme accuracy - it's a target rig, where to me a .25" variance on target is unacceptable.  Traditional bows let me escape from the maddening world of X's and rings.


2. Young folks are typically sterio-typed into wanting faster/newer gimmics all the time...do you fit that mold?

To me newer and faster is merely an aspect of performance.  I want performance - so I now make my own strings, arrows, and have begun to focus on brands of traditional bows that offer me the performance I want.  There's nothing wrong with tried and true, but if that we'd never have the options we now have availible to us.

3. What style of hunting with a trad bow do you like? (stands/stalk/blind)

I'm more of a stand hunter as that's what I've known for ever.  I have been experimenting with blinds and stalking now, and enjoy it even more as I'm on the same level as my game.  However, it's hard to beat the view from up top...
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: highpoint forge on November 05, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crap! I'm no longer young? I look and feel/act twenty but I'm now 38. Started shooting recurves right off the bat, with a Bob Lee for xmas 07, which I broke. Quickly bought three BWs and love them.

1.Trad hunting is almost as hard as it gets. Any dbag can get a wheelbow, release, and sights....I hate those things.

2.The harder it is to master the more I want to master it, and this is an old skill. Also, see response #1.

3.Never hunted from a tripod or elevated position. I have a Dark Horse but find it limiting. Usually I stalk.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Jazen on November 05, 2009, 09:32:00 PM
Why did I get interested in Trad bowhunting?  Two words:
Mike Mitten.
Nuf said.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: bog monster on November 05, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
I'm 30 and have shot trad since I could pick up a bow. I tried a wheel bow for one season and it just didn't "fit". It felt like I was dragging a car fender through the woods. I also think that skills like stalking, tracking and still- hunting are more effective and important than anything you can buy.
 I generally stalk/still-hunt, but I am getting more and more into ground blinds. It is alot easier to bring the kids.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: Want2no on November 05, 2009, 11:07:00 PM
I'm 33.
1.  I began shooting Trad last fall after talking to a co-worker who only hunts with a long bow.  This got me interested.  I picked up my dad's old Hoyt recurve and began shooting.  Shooting a bow became enjoyable again! I love the natural feel of it all.  I sold the wheels this fall.  I still enjoy the gun hunt but as for the bow...It's all Trad for me.  

2. No.  
I wash my OLD torn and faded camo in Baking soda
Store them in a sealed bag with Scent wafers
I do NOT own a GPS or Range finder. I do use a compass and keep my shots under 20 yards.  (granted, If I get lost in the woods around here I can walk in any direction and hit a road within a mile or so)

3.  I hunt from treestands or ground blinds.  

I to agree today's mainstream hunting shows are all about "Super Model Bucks" and instant gratification.  I used to watch them all but it became almost comical and began to leave a bad taste.  It seems to degrade the hunt.  I think "new hunters" watch these shows and beleive there should be multiple 150++++++class bucks walking in their woodlot for the taking. I can tell you, that's not the case were I hunt.  Sorry for the soapbox ending.

Hunt Safe!
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: kbetts on November 06, 2009, 07:57:00 AM
33 and traditional for about two years.  Been shooting bows since I was about ten.  Have owned countless compounds and still work on them quite regularly.  All my friends still shoot compounds but a few have bought 'curves in the past year.
I went trad when I came to the realization that all the deer I was shooting were inside 20 yds. anyway.  So many less things to think about.  Missed my first couple of deer around the age of 23.  I knew I wasn't yet ready.  Bought a beautiful BW from an older gentleman that could no longer use it.  In April I shot Delawares first trad turkey with it and haven't looked back.  Actually bought a second BW and gave the other one to my little bro.  I don't use scent lock.  Do not use bait.  I hunt trees mostly, but have become very fond of my ground blinds.
I wish someone would buy my compound, I want a Morrison.
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: bowmaster12 on November 06, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
Im 26 years old and this is my first year hunting with the trad equipment. ive always been "old school" in ust things in life but if i had to pick one reason i got went to the trad gear was my grandpa, i can fall into that mold at times and i hunt from treestands
Title: Re: Any of you young guys out there....(35 and younger)
Post by: jsweka on November 06, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
I'm heading into the latter part of 35, so I just barely made the "younger" cut.

I started shooting traditional bows around 1996.  Before that I was really big into 3D and got caught up on the quest for speed.  I use to shoot an extra length riser Golden Eagle compound that was perfect for shooting with fingers.  Eventually that bow just didn't seem fast enough eventhough I shot really well with it.  That started my spiral into the hell of the quest for speed - got a faster bow; couldn't shoot it with fingers; got a release; got a faster bow; shot worse; and just didn't have fun at 3D's anymore.

One 3D shoot, I saw a couple guys shooting with recurves and longbows and they looked like they were having a blast eventhough they weren't getting 10's on every target (and missing a few).  That's when I decided.  Borrowed an old Shakespere recurve from a friend of my father. Upgraded to a Great Plains recurve as a college graduation present.  Started making my own longbows a couple years ago. And most importantly - put the fun back into it!

As I get older, the simpler (not necessarily easier)I want things. I shot enough deer out of tree stands with my compounds.  Now I really only want deer off the ground with my homemade longbow - buck or doe doesn't matter.