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Title: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on October 30, 2009, 10:34:00 PM
Just got my new steel force 200gr. titainium heads. heres a look
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/2008dmaxguy/DSC01062.jpg)
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/2008dmaxguy/DSC01063.jpg)
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: The Vanilla Gorilla on October 30, 2009, 10:36:00 PM
Those are nasty lookin! I kinda like em.  Shot em yet?
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: Kenneth on October 30, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
those things look tough as railroad spikes!!  wicked looking head for sure!  I have some 190gr. Phat Head Africans on the way.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on October 30, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
I'm gonna test them tomarrow i'll let you know. any sugjestions on what I could shoot to test them I was thinking 3/4 " plywood
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elknutz on October 30, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
I like your idea of that big 4 point.  See you in the morning.  :pray:
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: joekeith on October 31, 2009, 01:33:00 AM
Where'd ya get them at ?  They look tough...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: tollgatetraditions on October 31, 2009, 11:30:00 AM
We stock the Steelforce points. 145 grain double bevel and single bevel 225 and 300 grains.

http://www.tollgatearchery.com/SFBH_Page.htm

george
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on October 31, 2009, 03:35:00 PM
I called steelforce and he made them to order I wanted 200 grains w/steel ferrel so he went w/titanium blade. I shot them today they seemed to fly true, very quit, shot one twice through 3/4 w/no damage.
200 grain steelforce (http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/2008dmaxguy/DSC01066.jpg)
200 grain muzzy phantom (http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/2008dmaxguy/DSC01067.jpg)

Both shot @ 20 yards w/ my savanah into dence plywood
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: Guru on October 31, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
The SF went in further, but also looks like they went in till the width of the cut was about the same.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: twitchstick on October 31, 2009, 08:03:00 PM
They look nice. I shoot steel force years back. Once penetrated the far shoulder of an elk 1/2 way out the other side after breaking a rib on a 3/4 angled shoot. The bull only went 10 yards.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: BUCKY on October 31, 2009, 11:29:00 PM
whats the price and how many per pack?
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elknutz on November 01, 2009, 01:00:00 AM
Thats a good observation Curt.  That is exactly what happened.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: BradLantz on November 01, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
I'll be shooting SteelForce 225 Single Bevel's .... biggest dang broadhead I've ever shot. I mean my 160 gr Thunderheads are a big 3 blade but these are long and wide and one big piece of sharp steel !
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on November 01, 2009, 02:18:00 PM
How is titanium for edge retention and resharpening?
It looks like that they both penetrated until they got to the ferrule. Plywood hates ferrules.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on November 02, 2009, 10:56:00 AM
price =$49+3 per 3-pack

sharpness = just touched up edge this morning w/ that sharpening system that uses a grinder motor, and WOW sharpest broadhead Ive ever had. I sharpened the muzzys the same way, and they never got that sharp. that titanium just pops arm hair w/ very little preshure.

Still looking for good ideas for testing durability and penatration?
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: bm22 on November 02, 2009, 06:40:00 PM
They look good but the ferrule looks rough!!! Looks like thats what hung up and stopped the penetration in the plywood.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on November 03, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
Shot about twelve times every time steelforce  went deeper then muzzy (both 2 blade) into pumpkins.
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/2008dmaxguy/DSC01088.jpg)
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: Izzy on November 03, 2009, 05:16:00 PM
Ive been shooting the 145 traditionals and they are the best flying heads Ive shot to date, just like a field point from my MFX 500s.I havent shot a deer with them yet but the narrow width has me a little nervous.Ill give them one chance and if they dont drop enough of a bloodtrail Ill go back to my old reliable 125 Snuffers.Now I just need a deer to help out and cooperate.Ive got a feeling tomorrow this will happen.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: michigan bill on November 03, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
Darren: "Still looking for good ideas for testing durability and penatration?"

Darren, why not test one on a critter that's in season.  I bet they work great.

Bill

p.s. Make sure the critter's in season!
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on November 03, 2009, 05:58:00 PM
If I can find a critter to cooperate I'll post the results.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on November 03, 2009, 08:25:00 PM
If you really want the best broadhead testing medium you can get. Buy a goat, test the broadheads, have a BBQ.
by the way it's spelled p-e-n-e-t-r-a-t-i-o-n
:bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on November 16, 2009, 05:22:00 PM
Found my test dumby. Not bad for a black tail
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/2008dmaxguy/dlee170-R1-016-6A.jpg)
Our season opens back up on Nov 23rd this picture is about 15 yards from a new tree stand.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on November 16, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Question:

Are the new Steelforce heads stronger than the older ones? I remember shooting some of the 125-grain heads several years ago that bent in ethafoam.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: pacopperhead on November 16, 2009, 09:39:00 PM
i hope u get that blacktail
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: George D. Stout on November 16, 2009, 11:33:00 PM
You should do well in pumpkin season.  That should be coming around soon.  $17.00 each?  Well, I'm glad the economy is doing better by the day 8^).  Those mousetraps just keep comin' and a comin'.
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: elktalker on November 17, 2009, 01:47:00 AM
I believe the titanium 200 grain head is a lot stronger than the 125 gr. What is ethafoam ?
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: JimB on November 17, 2009, 02:09:00 AM
Ethafoam looks like white styrafoam but it is not.It is flexible,I believe,is a polyethelene foam and comes in different densities like 2#,4#,6#.They used to sell cheap archery targets made out of the 6# density,app. 2" thickness X 2'X2'.I used to have one and that 2" slab used to stop aluminum arrows out of a 60# Bighorn recurve,until it got shot out.The heavier arrows I have been using lately,might be different.

You should be able to do a web search and come up with it.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/jbrandenburg/Ethafoam.jpg)
Title: Re: New Broadheads
Post by: Rick P on November 17, 2009, 04:00:00 AM
Elktalker

I used a bone in pork shoulder for my experiments with a Alaska bow hunting supply "samurai" vs a zwickey "Eskimo". Hogs are all butchered at about the same weight so finding matching shoulders wasn't a problem. I used food coloring to mark the bone and put one arrow through flesh only then one through flesh and bone, thus simulating real world hunting. I threw a BBQ for my freinds when testing was complete and whole pork shoulder is cheap! I also used the same method for testing the Arrow dynamics hammer head against the gold tip 5575. I was also lucky enough to have a buffalo rib section that I used as a control.

Every stamped steel blade I have tested was damaged when it hit bone, the samurai had one hit in the ridge of the scapula that very slightly rounded the tip but did not stop the broad head from fully penetrating. Both the arrow dynamics shaft and the samurai provided marked increases in penetration, as much as 60%!

Ya I know similar tests have been famously done to exacting detail but I'm a "show me" kinda guy and if I'm going to be paying more for any piece of equipment I need test results of my own to justify the expense!