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Title: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Arrow4Christ on October 22, 2009, 10:45:00 AM
I'm considering selling one of my recurves to fund a longbow and am looking at the Thunderstick MOAB and the Black Widow PL. Now if I went for the Widow, I'd have to wait for a used one which may be tough since I'm left handed, but if I went for the MOAB I should be able to afford a new one.
Just wanted to hear people's experiences and opinions of each; especially those who have shot both? Also open to other suggestions. Smoothness of draw, handshock, and speed are the primary concerns for me.
Thanks.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: longbowben on October 22, 2009, 11:03:00 AM
I can tell you you wont be disappointed with a MOAB. I have shot them all and i can afford any of them.And MOAB are my favorite.Good luck im a lefty and its hard to any bows to test.Test them both before you buy one, everyone has different taste.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Blackhawk on October 22, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Both of those are top performers with the MOAB being a little faster, but I give the nod to the used Widow for a couple reasons.

1. selling it or trading it later will be easier.

2. used value is most likely going up, not down.

3. has a slight edge in looks

However, either one you choose will be good.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Dave Lay on October 22, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
PL's are hard to beat... what weight ya lookin for? widow had a couple leftys hangin in thier shop a month or so ago.. might test drive one.. sometimes they have a bow some one has cancelled or whatever and might cut somewhat of a deal on.. might call and ask..
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Romans3 on October 22, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
I've not shot a widow, but my old man's moab is unbeatable. It is PERFECTLY smooth with NO handshock at all, and faster than I thought a stickbow could be.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Cody Roiter on October 22, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
Thunderstick MOAB are great bows...
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: BowZen on October 22, 2009, 01:35:00 PM
Never shot either one of those bows, but just received a Thunderhorn Coup Stick- 62" with yew core, highly figured sapele veners, orange cocobola and sapele wave riser with a cross grain zebra wood striping 51# at 28". Its just a beautiful bow. Never shot anything as smooth and as accurate. Shot different arrows through it-Goldtip, Carbon Express, and Beamans, and they all shot well. Just a thought.....

www.thunderhornmfg.com (http://www.thunderhornmfg.com)

karim
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Lefty on October 22, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
I have owned both and you have a tough decision there.  Both bows are excellent shooters and both companies are excellent to deal with.  I would say if you wanted a shorter bow then I would go with a 60" MOAB, especially if price is an issue.  If you want a longer bow and like the history behind the Black Widow company, then I would go with a 62" or 64" PL, depending on your draw length.  
 Whichever you choose, I don't see you being dissappointed in the way the bow shoots or the customer service from either.  They are both completely outstanding in my opinion!
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Dave Pagel on October 22, 2009, 02:35:00 PM
I would have to go with the MOAB.  I have shot both and I now own a MOAB.  I just shot it over lunch and it impresses me more and more each day.

Dave
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Autumnarcher on October 22, 2009, 02:54:00 PM
MOAB all the way. ( my own completely unbiased opinion LOL)
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Arrow4Christ on October 22, 2009, 03:37:00 PM
I draw 30", should have mentioned. Thanks for all the input so far everyone!
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Crash on October 22, 2009, 04:24:00 PM
I have shot both and it will come down to what you are looking for.  The MOAB will have a lighter physical weight than the PL, it will also be faster and quieter.  I prefer the MOAB myself.  While I love the BW recurve, I have never been that impressed with the PL, especially with the price they charge.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: frassettor on October 22, 2009, 05:06:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dave Lay:
PL's are hard to beat... what weight ya lookin for? widow had a couple leftys hangin in thier shop a month or so ago.. might test drive one.. sometimes they have a bow some one has cancelled or whatever and might cut somewhat of a deal on.. might call and ask..
Pl's are hard to beat! But have also heard alot of great things about Moabs though!
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Arrow4Christ on October 22, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
I'm looking for something between 55-58# at 30", preferably something at the heavier end of that. If I can get my recurve sold for what I think it's well worth I may be able to get a new Widow, so I may have to test drive one.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: bayoulongbowman on October 23, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
MOAB rule!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: leatherneck on October 23, 2009, 11:06:00 AM
Shoot them both then YOU decide.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Arrow4Christ on October 23, 2009, 11:20:00 AM
I don't know how I would get a MOAB to shoot...Jim Reynolds doesn't have a test drive program like Widow does he?
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: RightTrailWrongTime on October 23, 2009, 11:48:00 AM
I'm sure there is probably a fellow Tradganger on here that lives close, maybe meet up and shoot a moab.
I've had both- I also let them both go for various reasons and I wish I could get them back that said, what the real difference for me was in the grip- the moab hands down imho had a wonderful grip. I shot both bows well, each fast and quiet, the draw cycles or preloads were a little different as they would be on any two bows so if you can find a way to shoot them both do it! As far as resale value goes I personally got more out of the plx, than the Moab I bought new and fit and finish was a little nicer on the plx but again this is something you have to decide and consider the cost etc... I'd love to have a moab again! and a coup stick and a schafer, and a griffin, .......its a sickness  sorry!
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: longbowben on October 23, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
I know that no one is getting my MOAB's except my son.And im orering him one today.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Gerardo on October 23, 2009, 02:28:00 PM
is he a lefty too?
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: longbowben on October 23, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
Yes he is.
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Pointer on October 23, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
You should try both and then make a choice...we're all different. I've shot both and prefer the MOAB
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: SL on October 24, 2009, 07:47:00 AM
I havent found anything,recurve or longbow that can hang with my Moab's. Bows are a very personal thing though. Try before you buy if possible, or buy used so you can resell and not take the big hit in the pocket book.Once you find the bow for you order what you want.
SL
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: Tajue17 on October 25, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Had a MOAB and I believe it was here that I sold it before I even shot one arrow from it,,, I didn't like the grip and how it drew,,, my opinion is the thunderstick 3 I had was way better and I miss that one..

I've had both and my experience is the PL wins it..
Title: Re: MOAB or Black Widow PL?
Post by: khardrunner on October 25, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
LOVE them MOABS