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Title: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 20, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
Brian Wessel at Talltines custom bows started my bow this week. I'm quit sure I drove him nuts with a wood combination and changes to this and that. But as some have found, he happily made another change order and went on his way. Last month Brian took a leap and is now a full time bowyer. He told me he has been making bows for 14 years and is now happy to be at it full time.

My final choices were a Gray Dymondwood riser, with a Bocote stripe and Black and Redheart accents. My limbs will have Bocote wedges with Bocote lams and Gray Dymondwood tips over black phenolic.

Here is the first photo he has sent of my riser being laminated together and the Bocote limb wedges laying beside it. I will put others up as I get them. The limbs are in the oven being baked now.

This is going to be a very special bow in more ways than one. You see I also sent Brian a very small arrowhead from my grandfathers collection to embed into the riser. He had found shoe boxes full of them as he farmed our family farm over his years here in Kentucky. He is long passed away so with this small addition I know this bow will have that extra mojo needed to make it a special.

Here is the riser block before lamination and the Bocote limb wedges laying above it.

     (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/TallTines02-640.jpg)

And glued

         (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/TallTines01-640.jpg)

The Arrowhead

       (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/arrowhead.jpg)
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Post by: pete p on October 20, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
this is going to be a beauty! cant wait to see the progression of this special bow!!
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Post by: BRONZ on October 20, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
Can't wait to see the finished product.  The arrowhead idea is awesome!
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Post by: A.S. on October 20, 2009, 10:05:00 AM
Awesome Tom! Can't wait to see the finished product!!
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Post by: Talondale on October 20, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
Neat idea.  Looking forward to more pics.
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Post by: Horner on October 20, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
What a great idea, with the arrow head.  

That is some great looking bocote as well.

I can't wait to see more!!!
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Post by: billy shipp on October 20, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
Tom,

That bow will be a dandy, especially with the inlaid arrow head.

You're right about Brian not getting flustered with changes. He takes them in stride without stammering, sutttering or running backwards.

TallTines bows are great anyway you look at them....great shooters, good lookers with a style and design all their own.

When you order a bow from Brian, you'll get a great performer, but you also get to work with a man that isn't happy until, and unless you are, and that in itself is a pleasure.

I've been shooting my new bow for a week now, and like it more every day.  

Someone else that owns one might be better at explaining and describing how well the bows shoot, the very distinctive design, and overall characteristics of what Brian is doing. The best I can do is tell you that you have to shoot it, in order to fully appreciate what Brian is doing.

I gotta quit talking to him....he already bout has me talked into buying another set of limbs   :)
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Post by: buckster on October 20, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
Beautiful Tom! Now ya got me thinking of having Brian inbed a nice arrowhead on mine, great idea.
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Post by: kbetts on October 20, 2009, 12:40:00 PM
Nice!  Can't wait to have a custom some day.
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Post by: varmint101 on October 20, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
That is going to be sharp Tom!  Really sharp.  I take it you won't be selling this one...ever lol.  Very nice. Can't wait until it's done.
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Post by: ron w on October 20, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
Gran-pa would love it....neat!!!
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Post by: Biggie Hoffman on October 20, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
Yuck!


:-)
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Post by: JoeM on October 20, 2009, 04:57:00 PM
TJ thats gonna be a beauty!!  Very cool with the arrow head.  Keep us updated.  Joe
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Post by: b.glass on October 20, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
Hee Hee, Biggie, your something else!
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Post by: Herdbull on October 20, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
Speaking of names...A couple months ago Brian asked for help naming is line of take-down Tall Tines recurves. I referenced to a line from my book, and suggested the "Solo Spirit." Brian liked it as he has hunted solo many times himself. I hope that he continues to use this name to identify his TD recurve line as he did chrisom my bow with it.

My bow shoots very well from my treestand.
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/rightsidesolo-1.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/deerleft-1.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/front-1.jpg)
Mike
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Post by: Guru on October 20, 2009, 08:39:00 PM
Brian is truly talented    :notworthy:
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Post by: billy shipp on October 20, 2009, 10:09:00 PM
Nice bow Mike....cool name too !
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on October 21, 2009, 08:46:00 AM
Here is pic Brian sent me of my new talltines bow...can't wait to get it and shoot. Bow is 62" 57# @ 29 1/2" Ziricote and Bacote with antler tips. I think it came out real well. Have never named a bow...may have to with this one.
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr250/TBarker1960/talltines.jpg)
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 21, 2009, 09:15:00 AM
Wow, beautiful Terry. Please p.m. me a report with your thoughts once you two have some alone time.
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Post by: billy shipp on October 21, 2009, 09:16:00 AM
Pretty bow.....You're going to love it.
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on October 21, 2009, 09:41:00 AM
TJ.....will do. After reading some of the others thoughts on how well they shoot...I have high expectations to say the least. This one will be heading to Ray's for hogs in a month. Will give you some feedback and hopefully a trophy pic.....
Billy....tnx   I can't wait.
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Post by: Guru on October 21, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Wow!  Absolutely beautiful!
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Post by: tradtusker on October 21, 2009, 09:37:00 PM
awesome looking bows
Brian's got some talent
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Post by: Barry Wensel on October 21, 2009, 09:45:00 PM
Very classic wood color combinations. What a beautiful bow. Great job Brian. bw
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 21, 2009, 10:08:00 PM
Ok guys, Brian roughed in the riser today. Here it is. A little more contouring to do as well as the inlay arrowhead then finish sand and spray. This is his shortest riser and will make a 58" bow.

    (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/Riser-left-640-1.jpg)

   (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/Riser-right-640-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: oneshot-onekill on October 21, 2009, 11:46:00 PM
tj...thats is very sweet! can't wait to see it with the arrow head inlayed...keep the pic's coming.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 22, 2009, 09:23:00 PM
Thanks Terry, should have limb photos soon.
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Post by: pete p on October 23, 2009, 02:37:00 AM
turning out to be a looker, cant wait to see the final product!
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Post by: ron w on October 23, 2009, 09:06:00 AM
Nice choice on the woods, I wasn't to sure at first, now I think you did well with the choise of woods . It looks great!!!!!!! Can't wait to see the arrow head inlay.
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 23, 2009, 09:32:00 AM
great looking bow.
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Post by: LoweBow on October 23, 2009, 12:13:00 PM
Gonna be a great looking bow Thomas....you need to work on your nails tho.   :(      Did you just get done changing the oil in yer truck or gettin rid of that silver in yer beard?
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 23, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
I would never get rid of the silver in my beard brother, your wife loves it.
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Post by: stykshooter on October 23, 2009, 02:56:00 PM
That's a beauty, sent Brian my deposit out this morning.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 23, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
What wood combo Frank?
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Post by: Horner on October 23, 2009, 08:14:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by KentuckyTJ:
I would never get rid of the silver in my beard brother, your wife loves it.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is funny I hope you two are friends.    :pray:
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 23, 2009, 08:33:00 PM
We are Horner. Lowebow and I go way back. We met on a group hunt in Texas I don't know how many years ago and have been tight ever since.
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Post by: Horner on October 23, 2009, 09:14:00 PM
Sounds good, those are the type of running jokes I have with some of my good buds.
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Post by: LoweBow on October 26, 2009, 08:24:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by KentuckyTJ:
I would never get rid of the silver in my beard brother, your wife loves it.
I asked her about that this weekend and you are right...she does.  :knothead:  

LOL...It took the guys last year in Colorado over a week to realize we were joking about each other's wives...LMAO!  THAT was fun!

When's the due date on the birth of this new bow?
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on October 26, 2009, 08:32:00 AM
Thanks Mike.....can't wait for delivery...will post more pic's then.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 26, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
Haha, I remember that one guys face. He was expecting a fight to break out the first time we started that. Too funny. It really made him uncomfortable all week.

Not sure on the bow arrival.
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Post by: stykshooter on October 26, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
KentuckyTJ, it's going to be 18" all Bocote riser with actionwood limbs with Bocote venners and antler tips.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 29, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
Brian sent my limb picts tonight, here they are unfinished of course. I requested some dark Bocote grain lams and he has delivered. Gray dymondwood tips with black phenolic and Redheart underneath to tie them into the riser.

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/DSC05401.jpg)
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Post by: stykshooter on October 29, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Very nice limbs, lots of character...
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on October 29, 2009, 10:23:00 PM
really like the look of that grain....going to be a looker.
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Post by: RunsUpRiver on October 29, 2009, 11:14:00 PM
I'm having a hard time with these bow photos. I'm beginning to covet......

Dean
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Post by: CDR on October 30, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
You have a looker there TJ!!
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Post by: A.S. on October 30, 2009, 07:27:00 PM
Sweet!!  I'm sure it will look even better when it has some finish on it!!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 07, 2009, 08:11:00 PM
Here is the arrowhead inlay

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/TTriser.jpg)
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Post by: Horner on November 07, 2009, 08:13:00 PM
Beautiful!!!!!
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Post by: A.S. on November 07, 2009, 08:29:00 PM
Lookin' good!!
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Post by: waknstak IL on November 07, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
thats gonna be a sweet looking bow. Love those dark bacote limbs.
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Post by: stykshooter on November 07, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
That inlay work looks cool
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Post by: twitchstick on November 08, 2009, 12:08:00 AM
Looks like it will be a looker. A head from you father collection will be good mojo.
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Post by: LoweBow on November 08, 2009, 07:54:00 AM
Nice Tom....I'm anxious for you!  Great lookin bow!
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Post by: billy shipp on November 08, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
Now that is just too cool TJ.

It came out great, but then again, there was never any doubt knowing who was doing it.

The arrowhead alone makes the bow special to you, but the bow will take on a whole new meaning after you finally start shooting it.

Congrats !!!!!
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Post by: Froggy on November 08, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
Dang Tom,
Like them Kentucky bucks didn't have enough to be worried bout already..... Now with this beauty, they are in it really deep !!!. A fine looking piece for sure.

Froggy
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 09, 2009, 09:40:00 AM
Froggy, I'm not so sure, I missed a doe the other night at 18 yards. Shot right over her back. I had grunted to stop her and I think she ducked the arrow by the time it arrived, but none the less I shot over her. Brian told me when my TallTines arrived my missing days were over, haha. (He didn't really say that for those of you with no sense of humor).
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Post by: Burnsie on November 09, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
Looks a lot like a Silvertip - very nice!
tb
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Post by: A.S. on November 09, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
TJ, I hope you didn't miss with one of my strings on your bow!!  That's not allowed   :biglaugh:  

Dont' worry, it happens to the best of us.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 09, 2009, 04:07:00 PM
Allen, I didn't, I missed with the Silvertip and it has a Rod Jenkins string on it. I guess I'll have to send you another $15. By the way our own Allen Shafer (A.S.) makes some of the nicest flemish twist padded loop strings I've ever used. He made me one for this new bow.

Brian called me today. She has shipped, should be here Wednesday or Thursday. He tried to talk me out of it. I think that's a good sign. Can't wait to string her up for the first time.
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Post by: A.S. on November 09, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
Tom, I'm waiting-impatiently for your report  :bigsmyl:  

Guess you have to blame Rod for the miss!!  LOL
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 10:48:00 AM
Ok guys a box from Brian arrived today. Here is what I pulled out.

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB126717-1000.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB126713-1000.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB126714-1000.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB126718-1000.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB126719-1000.jpg)
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Post by: Herdbull on November 12, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
Very nice!
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Post by: LoweBow on November 12, 2009, 10:59:00 AM
Wow!  That's about all I can say about that!

You better bring it tomorrow night...I wanna shoot it!
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Post by: billy shipp on November 12, 2009, 11:07:00 AM
That is a great looking bow Tom....if you think you like it now, just wait until you shoot it for a couple of weeks, then you'll really be in love.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 11:10:00 AM
Can't wait to string her up tonight Billy. Congrats on the great buck again brother.
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Post by: rjackson on November 12, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
Very nice!!!Called Brian yesterday nice guy.Ordering one in a few days.
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Post by: Steve O on November 12, 2009, 12:21:00 PM
I'm expecting a full report too...
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
You'll be the first Steve. Hopefully you can tell me you told me so.
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 12, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Tom, Hurry up and shoot it already. I can't wait to hear your report either.
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Post by: billy shipp on November 12, 2009, 01:19:00 PM
Tom,

I'm sure you have held the riser and felt the grip , so you have already discovered the secret as to why Brian's bows shoot so well, for so many.

I'll betcha 100 bucks you can't find a way to grip the bow any differently from the last 50 times you picked it up, even if you're thinking about it and intentionally trying to grip it differently....you don't really have a choice.
It did, and still does amaze me that something that simple could make such a big difference.

I can't wait to hear your thoughts after you shoot it a bit.
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Post by: A.S. on November 12, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
You guys are killing me. Do you know what my wife would say if she could read my mind right now!!  :banghead:  

Very, very nice Tom.
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Post by: rushlush on November 12, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Beautiful bow!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
You are right Billy my hand settles deep into the grip like a glove. It will only get better with the weight of the string being drawn.

This thing is oozing with MOJO.
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Post by: Gaff on November 12, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
do you have any pics of it strung yet? that is a sweeeeet lookin rig!  i really dig the arrow head as well!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
Gaff, sure don't I'm still at work. Gonna string her up tonight. I'll take another photo after I shoot it of course.
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Post by: billy shipp on November 12, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
Tom.....what about the tips of your index and middle fingers.....that is the secret of the grip to me.
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Post by: Straitshot on November 12, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
Tom,

Your killing me! I was trying to stay away from this post. I told myself I didn't need any more bows. Everything I have I want to keep.   :help:  

Louis
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
Billy, yes the groove in front settle your aiming fingers in as you say. I'll know more when the string stretches.

Louis, Don't sell any of your beauties, I hear a kidney is bringing $1750 these days on the black market.
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Post by: snag on November 12, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
Love that Bocote in the limbs! I am starting to build another recurve and have chosen it for my limbs also.
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Post by: JoeM on November 12, 2009, 06:36:00 PM
Just got caught up on this thread .  Thats a real beauty TJ congrats and best of luck with it.  Joe
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Post by: Guru on November 12, 2009, 06:45:00 PM
Awesome TJ, best of luck with it bud    :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:  

Brian is truly talented     :notworthy:
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Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on November 12, 2009, 06:50:00 PM
That is so cool, TJ. Can't wait to see it.
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Post by: buckster on November 12, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
That's fantastic!  I hope that mine turns out 1/2 as good as yours!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
Ok here is my 24 shot summary.

Very smooth draw with no hand shock and very quiet. Windage on shots is exactly centered. Haven't chrono'd the bow but its noticeably faster than my other two bows of equal weight.

If you have ever shot a Black Widow SA or PSA its a very similar feel and performance without the noise of the Widow. I would take it to the treestand tomorrow. Very nice bow.
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Post by: varmint101 on November 12, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
Oh you had to say that about the PSA didn't you!  That 'feel' I shoot well!

Nice bow!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 12, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Mike specs are 58" bow and 51 lbs. @ 28". It's Brian's short riser.
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Post by: A.S. on November 12, 2009, 09:30:00 PM
Tom, that's just about the same specs that I would be interested in......just need a lefty!!
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Post by: Steve O on November 12, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
Hmmmm, that 24 shot report sounds about right.  I think the 100 shot report might have a little more emotion in it though   :biglaugh:  especially if it includes a little stump shooting...

I told you I found a GEM   ;)
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Post by: BowHuntingFool on November 12, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Very nice bow, love those gnarly Bacote limbs! Sweet!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 13, 2009, 07:47:00 AM
I do want to add, I put the new flemish twist 8 strand with loops padded to 16 D-97 string on it Allen (A.S.) made for me and with two untwists the brace height was at 7-3/8" and and my arrows loved it. This bow was very simple to tune. I realize I am not finished and need to fine tune some but literally within 5 minutes it was shooting bullets.

As you all know, most bows have a sweet spot in brace height where the bow gets its quietest. At three different brace heights from 8" down to the 7-3/8" there was no change in tone from this bow. It was dead quiet.
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Post by: Steve O on November 13, 2009, 09:07:00 AM
TJ,

Any way you can do a comparison between the stock string and the A.S. string--performance wise?
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 13, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
Steve, yes Brian had wanted that info as well. I have another string from A.S. and they are very nice. Amazing how quiet they are for D-97. They came with nocks tied on and wooly puffs installed. Can't beat that.
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Post by: billy shipp on November 13, 2009, 09:58:00 AM
Tom....like you, I started out bracing my bow from 7 1/2" to 8", which is pretty much standard for the majority of todays recurves. The bow shot good anywhere in that range.
In my talks with Brian, he suggested bracing it at 7 1/8".....bingo.... My bow stays braced at 7 1/8".....it is a bit quicker, just as quiet as any other brace heighth, and performs best. Run it down to 7 1/8" and se what you think about it.
I prefer a lower brace on my bows and was pleasantly surprised to find that the bow shoots best with it set this low....another plus in my book.

Tuning my bow....well....there were no tuning issues at all. I do shoot off a rest, so that simplifies things a bit. I have shot arrows as light 2013 aluminums, up to Vapor 4,000, and everything in between, they all shoot good, and that's a pretty wide range in spine out of the same bow. My arrow selection boiled down to simply whatever I wanted to shoot. I'm hunting with 60-65# POC shafts, 160 gr Ribteks, but I could easily be shooting 2016 or 2018's with the same accuracy.

Don't anyone doubt that Brian has this bow figured out down to a T until you shoot one for yourself.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 13, 2009, 10:22:00 AM
Thanks Billy I'll take a few more twists out tonight. I to like a very low brace height. Glad to hear it will take a variety of shafts also.

For those who don't know and to Billy's point, Brian isn't the new kid on the block. He has been refining this bow for 14 years now.
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Post by: billy shipp on November 13, 2009, 02:23:00 PM
Come on Mike....pull the trigger, call Brian and order the bow....you know you want one, and you also know that you won't be happy until you own one  (:
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 13, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
Mike, Billy's right. Just do it!!  I did and it doesn't hurt one bit. Besides you can always do like I did and blame TJ.....LOL
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Post by: A.S. on November 13, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
You guys are going to have a bunch of us ordering bows before it over with!!

As far as the 8 strand string goes....I have cronoed them against 12 and 10 strand strings on my bows. I picked up a few fps (free energy in my book!), but the big difference is how much quieter the bow is with the skinnier string.

I have an 8 strand on my ACS that literally has several thousand shots through it this summer, and is still going strong. No durability issues at all.

You guys keep raving about the Tall Tines...I just may be the next one to pick up the phone and order one!!  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 13, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
Haha, I'm sure all your wives are taking ol' KentuckyTJ off your Christmas card lists as we speak.
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 13, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
TJ, I mentioned the roadtrip to my wife. She said as long as she could tag along. Mentioned something about wanting to meet the guy that convinced me I need a new bow.   :biglaugh:
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Post by: billy shipp on November 13, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
I'm sitting here laughing out loud at myself and others.

I know each and everyone of us have preached to our kids or grandkids, about PEER pressure.

We've adequately corrupted Fred....He's already ordered a TallTines....now we're working on Mike Walker and Allen Schafer.

Adults are are exposed to peer pressure every bit as much as teenagers today, at least here on TradGang.

Just for the record....I feel no remorse or guilt for the arm twisting,(peer pressure)... just telling you boys to get on the list because the line is getting longer every day.

Maybe it's not arm twisting at all....nawww...it ain't arm twisting...it's just sharing the pleasures of what TallTines shooters already know.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 13, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
Ah Billy that aint peer pressure...This is! Just wanted to share these outside photo's they do Brian's work of art more justice.

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130732-1000.jpg)

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130733-1000.jpg)

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130734-1000.jpg)

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130737-1000.jpg)

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130738-1000.jpg)

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130739-1000.jpg)

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130742-1000.jpg)

  (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130736-1000.jpg)
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 13, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
By the way I dropped my brace height down to 7" and got a slight little twang noise. Twisted back to 7-1/8" as Brian and Billy recommended and presto no noise and smokin' fast.

Here are the groups I'm consistently getting at 20 yards. Went stumping for a minute a little while ago and man I'm loving this dude.

   (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB130730.jpg)
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Post by: billy shipp on November 13, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
There ya go Tom....that's what I'm talking about....crank it on up a notch or 2.

That's enuff extra torque on the arm twist to have everyone wanting one.
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Post by: A.S. on November 13, 2009, 05:29:00 PM
You boys aren't playin' fair!!
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Post by: Horner on November 13, 2009, 07:06:00 PM
WOW that bow is awesome!!!!!!  Love the finished product.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 13, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
You all may have noticed the limb butts on this bow are rounded off. I asked Brian if he would do that for me and he said sure. I really like it. I think it blends the lines of the riser into the limbs. If you are pondering a new Talltines that is just another option that's not yet on the website to think about.
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Post by: Michael Arnette on November 14, 2009, 12:51:00 AM
TJ,
Those look like my groups since I started shooting Brians bow I have only had the chance to shoot it a few times but it is great, I love mine more every time I shoot it. Now if I could just get out in the woods with it!
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Post by: Michael Arnette on November 14, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/sale002.jpg)
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Post by: Michael Arnette on November 14, 2009, 01:05:00 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/sale001.jpg)
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Post by: Michael Arnette on November 14, 2009, 01:08:00 AM
70# @ 28, Lacewood riser with tulipwood limb/boo limbs. It looks even better with my hand made antler bolts.
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 14, 2009, 07:28:00 AM
Great looking bow Michael. Send me a hero pic when you break it in.
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Post by: pete p on November 14, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
absolutely awesome! great job Brian, congrats Tom
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Post by: Izzy on November 14, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
Man are they some fine looking shooting instruments.Brian, when do you expect the 1 piece curves to be available?
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Post by: talltines on November 14, 2009, 11:28:00 PM
I'm hoping to have a piece ready by Kalamzoo if not sooner.  Things are pretty busy in the shop but December should be a good time for me to get a few worked up.
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 16, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
TJ.....that turned out real nice....and looks like you two are getting along well, by the look of that group.  Good luck and hope to see pic's with an animal real soon.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 16, 2009, 11:19:00 AM
Terry, I hope to whack a few more doe this season. Waiting on the orange army to retreat before I take to the stand.
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 16, 2009, 12:16:00 PM
yep I hear you...gun season came in over the weekend here....good luck! Love the finished product.
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 16, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
Ok after shooting many more shafts than I should have over this weekend, I have more info on the Tall Tines. I think a good sign of a bow's stability is its ability to shoot many shaft sizes. I have only had a few bows in my day that were able to do this well. The TT shot my 2016 & 2117 aluminums, my 3555 carbon Gold tips and my 500 series carbon Trad Only's all very well with little tweaking of point weights as Billy had stated.

While stump shooting I realized the sight window is very generous for a 58" bow riser and offers a little more visibility than my other 58" bows.

My draw length is 27" and I always like to have my brother of the bow (Lowebow) with his 29.5" draw give any of my new bows a pull to see if he feels any stack at his draw. He said he felt no stack at all which was good to hear.
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 16, 2009, 03:45:00 PM
TJ, that's good news about the TT shooting a variety of shafts. My AD Tradlites shouldn't be an issue out of mine then.
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 16, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
Come on Mike you know you want it...you neeeed it...make the call. Just kidding...they are very nice.

1/4 away...I just started shooting mine with the trad hammer heads and they shoot like darts...was shooting the griz alaskans and they shot the same way.
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: Ray Hammond on November 16, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
I handled Terry's (oneshotonekill) this past weekend and it was a really good feeling handle.

I didn't get to shoot it..but it sure was a spitfire and very accurate in his hands.

Brian's handiwork is very nice indeed.

I really liked the wood combination in Terry's bow...
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: Michael Arnette on November 16, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
Although speed isn't everything I am getting average 195 fps with a 725 gr. arrow. My bow is 70#@29. This adds up to apprx. 61 foot pounds. Wow!
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: Steve O on November 16, 2009, 10:03:00 PM
Yep, I've seen very, very few bows that you could tell by  eye that it was faster than others of the same weight.  I got 10-11 fps thru the chrony with my 55# TallTines comparing it to other top notch 55#ers with the same 540 and 650g arrows.  That was pretty impressive to me.
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Post by: rjackson on November 16, 2009, 11:09:00 PM
Steve,Thanks for your help! Randy
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Post by: Steve O on November 17, 2009, 06:26:00 AM
Anytime   :thumbsup:
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Post by: A.S. on November 17, 2009, 08:50:00 AM
Steve, I'm really looking into a TT. Just wondering if your chrono results were with bows set up similar strings, brace heights, etc.

I'm not a speed freak, but I am interested in possibly dropping a couple #s of draw weight and keeping similar performance as my other bows.

Thanks,

Allen
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Post by: LoweBow on November 17, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
Freakin awesome bow is all I've got to say.  I'm a stickler on draw stack as I draw so dang long and this thing was smooooooooooooooooth to say the least!  Love the "matte" finish...I was critical of the shelf as it looks big in pics, but on the contrary found it to be great for was large enough to hold your hand into the grip, small enough to not interfere w/ flight, and low like my BW. Deffinately made my Christmas list!
MIKEY LIKES IT!
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: Steve O on November 17, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
Allen shoot me a pm with your e-mail or phone # and I'll tell you exactly what I did, but the TT was at a disadvantage and still smoked the others.
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Post by: rjackson on November 17, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
Steve,you da man!Made my mind up.Thanks again,Randy
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Post by: BMOELLER on November 17, 2009, 08:33:00 PM
Sweet looking bow!  Reminds me of a Schafer.  Maybe one of these days I'll have enough jack to try one out.  Sounds like the performance is incredible
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 17, 2009, 09:45:00 PM
I to thought they were very similar before owning them both. There are a lot of differences. Here are some side by sides. These are both 58" bows.

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB170764.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB170763.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/PB170762.jpg)
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 17, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
TJ...nice side by side pic's, was going to do the same but never took the time.
Title: Re: Birth of a bow - We will name him...TallTines
Post by: A.S. on November 19, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
Well, much to the displeasure of Mrs. A.S., I made the call to Brian and ordered a Tall Tines yesterday!

Yes, Tom and Billy, I finally folded to the peer pressure....just like a 16 year old boy.   :goldtooth:
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Post by: billy shipp on November 19, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
Tom,

We got Allen on the right track, now it's time to start working on Tim Golder  (:

I heard that Tim will be trying one out in a few weeks....he'll be hooked then.
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Post by: rjackson on November 19, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
Brian is great.I orderd one monday can't wait!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 19, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
I'm out Billy. The hate mail from all the wives is starting to roll in.
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 19, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
Come on TJ you don't want to be known as a quitter...plus the guys are just pushing the blame over to you...it's gettin cold outside and they don't want to be in the doghouse all winter. Could be another order coming from Miami and AZ...so best get in before the list gets to long.
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Post by: rjackson on November 19, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
My wife thinks its Steve O's fault,Sorry Steve.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 19, 2009, 03:14:00 PM
LOL I guess it really is my fault since I started the thread. Its really just payback though I always blame my purchases on all you guys. Don't worry if I get lucky enough to get another doe down I'll lay on some more peer pressure.

Brian told Allen yesterday the wait was just 10 weeks. Not bad at all really. Heck I waited 10 months for my Blacktail.
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 19, 2009, 03:22:00 PM
Took these pics for another interested TallTines future owner. L to R Windauer Schafer, Original Paul and the TallTines.
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr250/TBarker1960/DSC_0031.jpg)
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr250/TBarker1960/DSC_0030.jpg)
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Post by: A.S. on November 19, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
Here I've been out in the pouring rain, sitting in a tree....and look how I get treated!!  LOL

I'm sure Tim G. has already ordered one and he's just not telling us about it.

Oh yeah, the wife said our Christmas card list just got a lot shorter yesterday.  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Steve O on November 19, 2009, 09:28:00 PM
I think all of you should be sending  ME a Christmas card   :biglaugh:
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Post by: stykshooter on November 19, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
Wow those TT's are really nice looking, order mine a few weeks ago and can't wait. That's an interesting pic of all 3 together, lots of differences.
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Post by: rjackson on November 19, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
Oneshot-onekill,is that a med grip on the TT?
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 20, 2009, 07:35:00 AM
yep sure is.....
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 20, 2009, 07:46:00 AM
Terry, How do you like the medium grip? That's what I went with on mine ...Fred
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Post by: Tim on November 20, 2009, 12:16:00 PM
So Allen....the cat's out of the bag eh?  You sold the ACS to order a Tall Tines!  And you thought I wouldn't see you taking a shot at me    :thumbsup:
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Post by: oneshot-onekill on November 20, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
I like the grip alot....the grip really helps me to get a consistant grip everytime. Seems the more I shoot the more I like the bow. If anyone wanting to shoot one around central indiana let me know...we can get together and fling some arras.....t
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 20, 2009, 01:40:00 PM
Thanks Terry.
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Post by: A.S. on November 20, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
Tim, we just have to keep you on your toes!!

Us poor boys can't afford to keep too many bows hanging around. I know I'll regret letting go of the ACS, but like I said...I'm a recurve shooter at heart.

Kinda like dating a redhead, when you really like blondes, I guess.  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: xroadshunter on November 21, 2009, 08:15:00 AM
Well after handling Terry's bow at hog heaven last week seeing how it shot and how much lighter it is than my black widow I couldn't resist and I sent a check to Brian last night.  I guess I'm on the conga line to a TallTines
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 21, 2009, 09:08:00 AM
I think that makes 5 of us that have placed an order since this thread began. Brian is gonna be one busy guy.
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on November 21, 2009, 10:37:00 AM
George, what woods did you order.
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Post by: xroadshunter on November 21, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
TJ, Haven't pick any yet.  I asked Brian to send me some pics of bows he's done in the past so I can get an idea, I'm not up to speed on woods and would appreciate suggestions.  Brian said it will be a while before we need to talk about wood choices so I guess he's getting busy.
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Post by: A.S. on November 21, 2009, 06:56:00 PM
1/4 Away, when I talked to Brian on Wednesday, he had already taken 5 orders this week. Don't know if they were all Tradgangers though.
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Post by: 1/4 away on November 21, 2009, 08:12:00 PM
Allan, Hopefully they are in line behind us...LOL