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Title: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Ryan Rothhaar on October 20, 2009, 07:18:00 AM
Last night this 1 1/2 yr old doe came skipping by on the way to the clover patch back of the house and one thing led to another.  Big Snuffer thru the back of the ribs quartering away and out the opposite shoulder.  She ran about 60 yards and crashed.  I went to the house and got things ready while waiting for Katia to get home from a meeting and we went back about 3hr after the shot to let our 12 week old Dachshund pup Oskar work his first real track - Katia handled him great.  Moderate visible blood (most still in the deer for the short run) on the ground.  Oskar went right to work and found the deer in less than 5 minutes - fairly easy track for him - 60 yards with 2 90 degree turns.  We've worked him on artificial tracks up to 400 yards long with 6 oz or so of blood - so this was a no brainer.  He started chewing on the deer like that is what he was born to do....I guess it was! We never cease to be amazed at how this young dog is developing.


 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/RyanRothhaar/Oskarwithdoe.jpg)


 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/RyanRothhaar/meanddoe.jpg)
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: swp on October 20, 2009, 07:23:00 AM
Looks like he is on his way, congrats on the doe and Oscar!
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Mike Manassa on October 20, 2009, 07:32:00 AM
Good shot on the doe Ryan!! Good tracking job by Oskar....Mike
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: shick on October 20, 2009, 07:43:00 AM
Great job, Ryan; looks like Oskar has a good future ahead of him.................Shick
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Chris Surtees on October 20, 2009, 07:50:00 AM
:thumbsup:     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: buckeye_hunter on October 20, 2009, 08:03:00 AM
Good deer and an awesome dog!
:clapper:  

-Charlie
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Hawkeye on October 20, 2009, 08:11:00 AM
Go Oskar!  What a DUDE!!  

Take a special treat out of petty cash, and congratulations on accomplishing what you were born to do!

Here's to many more Happy Trails...
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Shaun on October 20, 2009, 09:33:00 AM
Great looking dog! He is still showing you the blood even in the last photo.

One trick I learned from the old timers in blood tracking was to use a special collar and lead that only went on for tracking. This gives the dog a strong signal to do blood work - not just go for a walk. Some use a harness with Dachshunds, for big dogs its a wide collar.
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: pdk25 on October 20, 2009, 11:15:00 AM
Good advice, Shaun.  We have 2 german shepherds that are certified search and rescue dogs.  When the harness comes out, they know it is tracking time.
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Irish Archer on October 20, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Congrats.....  :clapper:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: trapperDave on October 20, 2009, 11:28:00 AM
:clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: wapiti792 on October 20, 2009, 11:28:00 AM
Awesome! I have a great little dog that is half lab/black mouth curr that has worked 10 trails total now. 7 dead deer, 2 no-gos, and a buck that was backstrapped that we jumped. One the buck trail she found 3 old sheds and 2 dead deer that had been wounded/left during the gun season on public ground. Congrats on your little dog! Sounds like he is gonna be something special.
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: wapiti792 on October 20, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Oh fogot to add on my post if you don't mind the highjack...the collar thing is right. When my dog sees the orange collar and lead she transforms from full-time pet to an all business tracking machine. Here's a link to the book I swear by for training:  http://www.born-to-track.com/book/order-info.htm
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Whip on October 20, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
Very cool Ryan!!
Nicer looking dog and deer  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Ryan Rothhaar on October 20, 2009, 12:44:00 PM
The single use collar is in the plan - he's still too small and growing too fast right now.  We're currently working him on a 20 ft stiff rope lead - maybe 2-3 mm with his normal collar.  I have the long term lead (10m of 7mm climbing rope) and Katia is planning to pick up a German tracking collar (I like the leather better than neoprene) in Teckel size when she visits her parents in France this Christmas.

I've been around working dogs as well as pet type dogs my whole life and I've never seen anything even close to as precocius as this Teckel pup.  Unreal.  When he found the doe there was a moment of hesitation then you could see the light go on....like a kid discovering what Trick-or-Treat is about...and it became HIS deer.

The breeder was very hesitant with us at first as she thought we were used to American dachshunds and not aware of the personality of the European hunting type dachshund.....my wife was ready for it but I'm still amazed every day.
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: jcar315 on October 20, 2009, 12:49:00 PM
Congrats all the way around!!!

Very interesting about the pup. As others have already said....he is on his way now!!!
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: pete p on October 20, 2009, 12:55:00 PM
awesome!!
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: kevgsp on October 20, 2009, 02:08:00 PM
Who was the breeder if ya don't mind me asking?

Most of the teckels you see are wires.

I love to watch a good dog work!
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: GingivitisKahn on October 20, 2009, 04:55:00 PM
Nice doe and cool dog!

  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 20, 2009, 04:56:00 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Terry Green on October 20, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
:bigsmyl:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: yellow bow on October 20, 2009, 06:52:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: joekeith on October 20, 2009, 07:53:00 PM
:clapper:    :clapper:  good job Oskar...
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: frank bullitt on October 20, 2009, 08:20:00 PM
I thought if you shot Snuffers, you didn't need a dog? Good shootin, Steve  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Guru on October 20, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
How cool is that!  Congrats Ryan and Oskar    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Kenneth on October 20, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
that's just awesome!!!  congrats on a fine doe and a great dog!!
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Bill Kissner on October 20, 2009, 10:43:00 PM
There's nothing more joyful than watching a puppy  find its first animal no matter the length of track. I enjoy tracking with my dog more than hunting. I have left my stand more than once to go trail someone else's deer.
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: dakota tim on October 21, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
I love it!  Just think how good he's going to be when he grows up.
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Bonebuster on October 21, 2009, 07:06:00 AM
I had a blood trailing Basset for a few years.
It was great to see how excited he would get when he realized we were going trailing.

Your little dog sure is a cutie. He has come far for his age. Din`t take him long to train you at all.   ;)
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Ryan Rothhaar on October 21, 2009, 07:11:00 AM
Thanks for the good thoughts, guys!  

QuoteOriginally posted by kevgsp:
Who was the breeder if ya don't mind me asking?

Most of the teckels you see are wires.

I love to watch a good dog work!
Kevgsp:

I don't want to post the breeder's info without asking first, I will talk with her and PM you if ok.  As far as coat type...I thought the same thing (based on the blood tracking info in the US).  I was surprised to find out that while the wires are very popular in France and Germany, smooth coat Teckels are more common in some other countries.  They are even treated as different breeds by the European registry - crossing a wire coat with a smooth is forbidden - that is a true smooth coat, not a poor wire coat that never develops the wire hair.  You will find different opinions on the coat vs temperament (the wire coat was developed by introduction of some terrier blood into the original Teckel breed) but I don't know enough about that to comment.  The reality is, for a working dog I would key more on the bloodline and breeding than specific coat type.
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: kevgsp on October 21, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
Thanks Ryan
Title: Re: Oskar's first deer - with pics
Post by: Greg in Delton MI on October 21, 2009, 11:03:00 PM
Very cool Ryan!