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Title: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:20:00 AM
This is about the doe I shot; the blood trail; and the distance the deer went.
This first photo shows the treestand and to the left; the trail the deer was on. About a 23 yard shot.

  (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown011.jpg)
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:23:00 AM
I hit the deer slightly quartering on; the shot went where I wanted it too. I shot an arrow into the ground where the deer was standing. I got down out of the tree a half hour later; it was getting dark; and I found the second arrow - but no blood; no hair; the arrow I shot at the deer was not found.
I backed out for the night.
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:26:00 AM
I found the arrow; at least the back end of the arrow. I compared it to my other arrows to see how much was missing. I was using black diamond delta 'four' blade heads- two blades and 2 'bleeder' blades.    (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown017.jpg)
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:30:00 AM
I found very few drops of blood. This is one. I followed the deer for about 150 yards using tracks; and pretty much by judging where the deer would go. There was a cliff on the left that went straight down; and above to the right of the trail an open pasture with horses in it.

Point is- look at this blood sign- its on dirt; its not much to go on. I could have easily given up on the deer- if I had this much sign in a leaf duff forest.
  (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown019.jpg)
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:33:00 AM
By stopping and looking ahead; and using binoculars; I spotted the dead doe. The blood trail - well - it was a drop every five or ten yards.    (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown021.jpg)
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:37:00 AM
This is the doe where I found her. Note the blood- its in her hair on her side; and not running down the does side very far at all. Most of the blood was INSIDE the does chest cavity. This was a higher hit than what I thought; but took off much of the top of the heart; and hit both lungs.
It was hot; and I had to race to field dress it.
  (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown023.jpg)
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:38:00 AM
Now - look at the removed heart and lungs.    (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown027.jpg)
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:43:00 AM
You can see the remaining part of the arrow; the 'business end' of it. Make sure you take care not to cut yourself while dressing a deer - this blade was still shaving sharp.    (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown029.jpg)
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:49:00 AM
Fellow trad ganger Mike Orton helped pull out the doe to the truck. We each took a front leg and pulled it along. His buddy Jeff said we should cut a piece of a branch - like a broom handle; and put it through the hocks; and pull it that way.

I said " Thats ridiculous!!".

" Why ?" responded the baffled Jeff...

I replied "BECAUSE - WERE NOT HEADED THAT DIRECTION!".

My response startled Jeff- but made Mike giggle a bit.    (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj251/gundogsnbows2/09-22-2009whitetaildoedown039.jpg)  

 Jeff and Mike and their buddy Richard enjoyed backstrap on the grill from this doe !
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 14, 2009, 02:51:00 AM
The point is that a poor blood trail may not mean a poor shot.
Keep the faith when trailing; and the reward can be a fuller freezer  :)  

 :thumbsup:    :archer:
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 14, 2009, 03:29:00 AM
Amen to that! Well-done, Brian!
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: JEFF B on October 14, 2009, 03:40:00 AM
way to go guys!!! congrats
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: wollelybugger on October 14, 2009, 05:55:00 AM
My son shot one the first day with the same results. Blew out the front shoulder and exited the other side with no blood. They are so fat from eating acorns the holes plugged up with fat.
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: saumensch on October 14, 2009, 06:15:00 AM
nice of you to show pictures all along the process!
Thanks and congrats
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: GingivitisKahn on October 14, 2009, 07:47:00 AM
Great job and great post.  Nice work finding her!

  :thumbsup:  

... and now... steaks!
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: wingnut on October 14, 2009, 08:09:00 AM
Yep a high hit with no exit can leave very little blood on the ground.

I've found through experience that you have to track animals without an exit wound and not blood trail.

That's why I spend so much time figuring out how to get an exit wound.  LOL

Mike
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: J. Cook on October 14, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
Amen to that wingnut...Great track job on this one and congrats on a fine doe!  But man!...that exit hole is soooo important.  

Great deer and story though, and thanks for sharing with the pics.  That's fine eating right there!!!!
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: frank bullitt on October 14, 2009, 11:19:00 AM
Brian, nice deer!  :thumbsup:  I understand what your saying, A little blood doesn't tell the story.

 I shot a nice doe over the weekend with similar results. I was shootin a cane arrow with a pearson Deadhead, 600 grains. Stand about 15 ft., shot straight down,exit hole, one lung. She went sixty yards or so.

 Took my son to track, little blood, but he found it and her. Little blood, nothing to write home about. Every hunting shot is a learning experience. Don't give up and Good shootin, Steve
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: NoCams on October 14, 2009, 11:24:00 AM
Congrats Brian ! I have sworn off qrtring too shots after losing two deer, glad yours turned out.

We use a deer cart for hauling ours out, works great when you remember to take it   :bigsmyl:  

nocams
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: maineac on October 14, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
Great job.  This post is a nice compliment to the blood trailing post.
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: ThomastaylorIII on October 14, 2009, 05:24:00 PM
First deer i shot with a longbow didnt bleed, Great shot too, she crumpled up and there was a 5 gallon bucket of blood (well not that much) drain down the hill where she laid... sometimes they have to fill up before they will start leaking i guess
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Bonebuster on October 14, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
This is what seperates a "bowhunter" from someone who hunts with a bow.

Walking the walk.

Congrats...good shooting.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Wannabe1 on October 14, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
What Bonebuster said!   :thumbsup:

Congrats on a fine harvest and story!   :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: my 2009 whitetail doe- the lessons
Post by: Ybuck on October 14, 2009, 08:47:00 PM
Great read, and what a beautiful deer. Congratulations!!!