Well so far this season I have managed to miss 2 deer at very close ranges. The first was a Doe @ 10 to 12 yards. The other was a Buck at 5 yards. Both shots passed harmlessly over their backs. Now since I am hunting on the ground I know that it's not a tree stand thing by not bending at the waist while shooting down at the deer. I am not having a problem staying calm when the animal comes in. I know I come to full anchor and pick a spot but I'm still missing.
Although I feel fortunate for getting these 2 shots this year,(I didn't get any shots last year) I know that I should have meat in my freezer. I almost want to hang up my longbows and get my compound back out.
Welcome to the club of misses. PICK A SOPT
doug77
At those distances from experience aim at a spot bottom third of the deer and look at nothing else.
yer not picking a spot, a really really really tiny spot. then the rest is up to you in performing a good release.
don't feel bad, most of us have gone through the 'miss at 5 yards' thing sooner or later.
keep on keepin' on .......
Every one misses I know I have had my share.
If the shots are that close and your hunting from the ground, pick your spot and concentrate on the lower third of the deer.
Once your commited to harvesting an animal you need to start focusing on the exact spot your going to hit. It seems that your a gap shooter like me and the reason you may be shooting high is your not wanting to shoot left or right and not focusing on your elevation. Before it gets you down to getting the compound back out try a Crickit or some type of clicker. Your letting your target control your shot.
I have to agree that you're not picking a spot. This due to the fact that both of your arrows went over thier backs. Your eye is just naturaly drawn to the horizontal line formed by thier back and yup,that's EXACTLY where your arrow goes!!!!! :thumbsup:
To try and help solve the problem..... Try picking a "low" spot. I try to focus on the spot behind the "crease" of the front leg right behind the "elbow" of the front leg. If you look at pictures of deer you will see that the point of the "elbow" is very easy to see and easy to focus on. Just imagine a spot about an inch behind that point.
GOOD LUCK!!!!! Go Git'em!!!!!
happenned to me with a bear. Pick a small. forget the deer and just focus on a hair , a crease, etc and you will hit where you want.
Missed a goat yesterday because, guess what, I didn't pick a spot.
Speaking from experience (the only experience I seem to have lately), like they all said 'pick a spot'. I aimed at the whole turkey this week and missed--3 times!
There, I said it on an open forum, I hope that makes you feel better about your experience. :banghead:
Bernie
Not to disagree, exactly, I have missed at about 7 yards by coming to anchor, picking a spot, and then snatching instead of releasing the string. I think the snatch caused my bow arm to bob up. Don't worry, everybody misses. What you can't do is worry and second guess your self. Practice, concentrate on form and the hits will come. Bill
Just picking a spot is not the complete answer, following through on the shot is as important. Adrenaline can make you pull farther, or give that little extra push with the bow hand. Strange things happen to the mind in the presense of game when you want to shoot.
Pick the spot...and keep the spot while effecting a controlled shot. It will come but you have to stay through the complete shot.
What your doing is what everyone dose at one point in time.Some never truely get over it.And it comes from try to watch your arrow fly.At the last second in the excitment your eye is drawen to to the line of the animals back.Some people just love to see that arrow fly.Which is fine just wait and follow through first.And I know your tirer of hearing it but you must pick your spot first.
Or maybe your problems what Bill Skinner said.Check them both out.
I totally agree with George. It is very easy to worry about where the arrow goes before you finish the shot. Kind of like wanting to see how far the baseball goes before ever making contact.
Also did you see if the deer reacted to the bow release? I would say that is likely the reason the arrow seemed to have gone high. The short yardage shots (bow noise) seem to be the most alarming and therefore easiest for deer to duck the arrow.
It happens. I shot over a P&Y 8 pt last year that went about 140 at about 10 yds. I knew when I done it that it was because at the last second I looked at the antlers that I thought where gonna be hangin on my wall. Shoulda just concentrated on my spot til the deer was down, then I woulda had the rest of my life to look at the rack and the pictures.
QuoteOriginally posted by George D. Stout:
Strange things happen to the mind in the presense of game when you want to shoot.
thats so true!
Keep at it mate, it will come together
I have heard this more often from the compound shooters, when everything just falls apart and their shooting ritual breaks down, perhaps because there are more of them. This killing animals thing is a very personal experience. Perhaps that is why with sights and mechanical releases modern shooters can at time separate themselves from the act, at least until the shooting ritual becomes automatic and then when some nerves are thrown in all of sudden nothing works. However, with trad gear it is all you, by not picking the spot,your eyes and mind wander and ponder the entirety of the event of killing an animal. Often times we can be trapped by all "the what not to do-s". Make the process more simple. Bore a hole through it with your eyes and then smoothly execute the shot that you have practiced.
For me it comes down to how much are you in control of your shot sequence. A good test is a Kidwell drill I do as a warmup. Draw solidly into your anchor and see if you can do a figure 8 or a cross pattern over your bullseye. If you can maintain control and not release, your doing good, if you give in and release, time to work hard on that form. You need to be calm, positive and completely in control. Of course your going to hit the bullseye, it's what your aiming at right.
Check out Jay Kidwell's book "Instinctive Archery Insights." I finish in the top few of most local 3-Ds and even amaze people in backyards. . . YET, I have been shooting trad for 25 years and have NEVER been able to pick a spot on live game. Kidwell's training using the "button" technique has helped me tremendously.
Good hunting
Dan in KS
Larry,
Hang in there,it will come around.
good to know I'm not the only one out there. If I could just get one good kill under my belt I would stick with this!
Don't beat yourself up so much man. Hey...you missed! No big deal! You know you can shoot. You know you can get deer close. Just do it again, take your time and seal the deal. Getting the compound out won't help you kill deer with your recurve. You CAN do it. Hey, when I first switched to a recurve years ago, I missed the SAME BIG buck TWICE in one season! Yep it hurt. But I laugh about it now. You will be posting pics on this site soon enough. Enjoy the ride!
Thank you for all of your encouragment. Been hunting with these traditional bows for abour 7 years now and have yet shoot a deer. I have shot some small game critters like rabbits, groundhogs and squirrels. Buit when it come to deer I can't seal the deal and it gets very frustrating. Just to let you all know I was back out yesterday and didn't spot any deer but I did share my hunting spot with a red fox that was about 15 feet away from be and bedded down for a nap for 45 minutes. That was exciting for sure! I can't wait till next weekend to get back out.
All of the above info is right on so I'll give you one more thing to think about. Hopefully this doesn't sound too corny.
Deep down I think this sort of situation is exactly why traditional archery is so addictive. We have to gain control over our body and mind and learn to manage the adrenaline rush that comes with a close encounter with a deer.
I've missed my share and hit my share but I always find myself looking for that perfect "rush" where I can control my physical body and make it work the bow and arrow to perfection. It has actually become a challenge that I can't wait to face every year. To see if I'm up to the task.
Instead of getting frustrated with "buck fever" or "target panic" (which I believe is a pretty natural event for all archers to experience at one time or another). I felt like I had to embrace the challenge before I could manage both. I believe your up for it or you wouldn't have stuck with it this long.
If it was easy it wouldn't be as much fun! Now go get "squinty-eyed" and make that bow and your mind do exactly what you want to do, and I'll be excited to congratuate you on the journey.
Chris