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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: peak98 on April 04, 2007, 09:23:00 PM
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Well, it's done, now the wait begins. Several of the guys that I work with, myself, my father and one of our good hunting buddies are going to Pike County,IL at the end of October for a week. I would like some advice if you live up there and hunt locally, or if you have gone up there and hunted before. That I know of, I'll be the only one carrying a curve. Everyone else is bringing wheels....I am already taking some ragging, but I told them "it's the only way that's fun for me", anyway, I can't wait, October will take 2 years to get here now !!!
What type of weather should I be prepared for ?
In south Louisiana we're usually still in the high 80s.
Will most of the hunting be from a ground blind or a treestand? I hunt 95% of the time out of a climber or use tree spurs and a loc-on, due to the thickness of the woods.
NEW QUESTION
I usually hunt out of a climber or Loc-on, should I also bring a ground blind with me ?
Got a ground blind so I hpe to be able to cover most hunting situations...
Any last minute tips or advice before I leave ?
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Don't shoot the first buck that seems big to you. Pike has monsters walking around and a once in a lifetime buck is very possible.
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1st go first of Nov if Oct the very last!
2nd and most important.
Don't pass on a buck you would shoot on the last day! I'm a little north a few hundred miles, expect anything for weather. Hot to freezeing and all in the same week OK maybe day! Are you hunting with a outfitter or on public ground? Theres great hunting on both, but with all the exposure lots of others looking for the same. Wall hanger. Good luck most off all have fun.
Brent
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Thanks David, we have to shoot "at least" a 135 inch buck, like that's small. We are going with an outfitter, the hunt is semi-guided, they show us the land....and we are on our own unless we shoot.
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P&Ys only eh. You're going to see some hawgs then if that's what the leases are managed for.
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I was there several years ago and the weather did not cooperate. I thought I was making the best of it by staying on stand in wind and rain, but I only saw 3 does. I'd go again, but pray for the weather to cooperate. Good luck to you.
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The weather can be wild.I've hunted in a tee shirt in the am and cold weather bibs in the pm,on the same day.
Ask your guide if its treestand hunting.Most are but ask if you can hunt from the ground.
Our buck activity really starts to heat up around the second week of November.
Some of the locals may join in here.I live 175 miles north.I hunt the Gov. ground and kill a deer every year.
Good luck and knock down a big one.
Scott
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Dont worry about the weather usualy very mild down there, if you are lucky enought and have good weather it will approach 30 to 40 degrees very unlikely, bring gear for those temps and warmer. The first day let the outfitter tell you the boundries, i would'nt hunt unless there is a good front moving in. 1st day glass and scout then use your hunting ability to find the funnel's bring a stand and set up, i can almost guarantee that the stands the outfitter sets up will not be for trad. archers. let me know how you do, for i have never payed to hunt ,but i understand there are some hogs in that county. "ELk dont know how many feet a horse has pigram" I will help you out all i can just email me. Jonesy
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Penetrator im with you! its like Cuba around here, but Got roots in this ground and i aint givin up!
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Wow.I didnt know they had messed up the non resident tags like that.Hunting is good but its not worth that money.Peoples Republic Of Chicago strikes again.
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Thanks guys I appreciate the encouragement.
jonesy- we're supposed to be shown the property and the boundaries early the first morning, then we're on our own. I plan on glassing the rest of the morning and into early evening, if I can locate where a good travel route is, I might try to slip in and climb a tree early if the wind is right, otherwise, I'll pick two or three promising areas (as per guide recommendations) and slip in early the next morning. We will be give arial maps of the properties that we have access to that will have outfitter stand locations marked on them, but I know that I'll be hanging my on (got to get a little closer you know).
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!1
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Good advice, thanks and keep it coming
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Like someone else above said,don't pass up one the first day that you would shoot the last day.
I just about did that 2 years ago in Adams county,Illinois.First evening hunt had a 130" 10pt come in to 6 yards,watched him from about 150 yards all the way in,and had decided not to shoot..............till he started to walk past me.I figured,this is what I came for,he's a gorgeous buck,at very close range,so I took the shot.Got a beautiful buck on my wall,great memories,and still hunted for does the rest of the trip.I did not have even another sighting of a good buck the rest of the trip,so again.......DON'T PASS UP A BUCK THE FIRST DAY THAT YOU WOULD SHOOT THE LAST DAY.........you may not have another opportunity.
Weather,prepare for all extremes.It could be 20 degrees one day spitting snow,and sunny and 70 degrees the next........
Take a camera with you to the stand.I got to see more deer and deer behavior the 2 times I've been to Illinois than I have in 30 years of deer hunting in SC.
Most importantly.............ENJOY EVERY MOMENT!!!!
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Thanks Mike, well said.
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Darrell,if it's like the place I hunted in the midwest (Kansas),look for some crp land.these are fields they let grow up and do not plant.kinda like a briar patch here.You will be amazed at the amount of buck sign you see.Figuring out the patterns there are easier than home because there is usually not much cover.But like anywhere the big bucks can be hard to pin down.Don't over look small patches of cover.The deer there are like rabbits if you don't step on em they will hold tight to cover.be ready for some wind and expand your shot range as far as you can.Good luck.hey do you live in the walker area by chance?
CB
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cajunbowhntr- I live in Denham Springs, just west of Walker.
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Darrell,
Who is your outfitter? My friend won a whitetail hunt for two in Pike County with the same time period. The outfitter has a 135 P&Y minimum and his setup sounds a lot like your outfitter.
Also, I am the lucky dog who will be hunting with him in late October and early November.
:biglaugh: :jumper: :jumper: :jumper:
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I was raised in So Ill (Franklin/Williamson counties) and have been going back to hunt for several years now. Rut has been a little later than usual the last couple of years (2nd and 3rd week of Nov). Be prepared for all kinds of weather. You never know when a Northern can work it's way down. But in the most part it should be mild. Take advantage of the corn harvest and stand placement. If there is still some corn standing, you can bet that the deer are holed up in it. At least thats the way it is around my dad's place. I am probably just going to get a doe tag this year. Price is getting a little steep for me for a buck. Good luck and have fun!
John
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Take your own food. Not alot of restraunts in the area. The chili at Wendys can get old very fast. LOL You will have a great time. We did. Ive been there 3 times. Seen more trophy class deer in one day than I did the entire season in Indiana. The $ went up and I have not been back since. Also I had a buddy that leased some ground there but that has gone away. I would love to be able to go back. Good Luck.
Take a variety of clothing. If you do not like the weather just wait a few hours, it will change.
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From what I'm hearing, the weather could be the biggest obstacle, but that's a chance taken with any hunt. I love the cold weather, but have never hunted when the temps are below 15 degrees....that's COLD for us.
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Peak,
Where are you going to in Pike County? I live in Pleasant Hill, which is in Southern Pike near Calhoun. Plenty of deer around. Private ground is hard to find without knowing somone and public ground is almost none. Let me know if you, it would be prety cool to meet another TradGanger.
Ron
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wolfcoach-
I'll pm you an exact location on Monday, after I call and get one,lol. would be great to meet another 'ganger, you'd be more than welcome to come eat some sauce piquante or gumbo with us too. I'll be getting back to you as soon as I get all the details.
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I was there about 5 years ago so info may be dated. The colder the better if rut is on so stay on stand all day. Use disposable hand heaters and layered clothing. Practice shooting in this clothing. Learn some field techniques for antler size, ie ear spread, etc.
One day, my friend watched 52 deer (about 1/4 were various bucks) walk down a fence line from one wood/field area to another. He shot a 152 buck at 1100 am. I took about a 140 but only saw a few deer each day. I did see more bucks in 1 week than I have seen in several seasons here in south central Indiana.
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Advice? Practice deep breathing to slow your heart rate. Oh and have fun, hopefully I'll hear a good story from you this fall.
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Thanks for all the advice, I've posted a new question, any comments are appreciated. I've also found out that I won't be the only ganger in Illinois in October.
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ttt
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Peak98 , I am by no means an expert on Il. hunting , but have had the privilege of hunting there 10 yrs. as a non- resident. I usually take a variety of stands and blinds because you never know what will work at any given time. 90% of the time I use a loc on but I would take all you have . Most of my hunting has been between the last week of Oct and the beginning of slug season depending on the chase phase of the rut. I sit on stand all day seeing a lot of bucks prowling bedding areas between late am. and early pm. Last year I heard a lot of guys complaining of not seeing any bucks.They were leaving their stand for lunch and missing some good hunting. Good luck on your hunt ..Bill
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ttt, it's getting closer.
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I live North of Pike county. The weather the last few years has been mild that time of year, cool in the A.M. and P.M..The last couple of years there has been the annoying Japaneese beetles flying around that time of year so I would throw in a headnet. Don't forget raingear. The farmers will be harvesting that time of year, which could alter deer patterns somewhat. Non-residents are paying big money these days to hunt here, I hope you kill a biggun.
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TTT, it's getting close now.....
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Hey welcome to Illinois. I'm a couple hundred miles north of Pike County, next to the Cheddar Curtain. End of October is usually decent still, even way up here.
Definitely bring some good rain gear. We get some of those rainy fall days that leaves a good chill in your bones. The type of rain where it seems to last all day/night sometimes.
It's usually not to cold otherwise..only occasionally do kids have to trick or treat with a heavy coat or ski hat.
I hunted Pike County in December maybe ten years ago. It was chilly but not too cold...maybe low to mid thirties during the day and upper twenties at night. That was right around Christmas.
I've also hunted Jackson County (east and south of Pike a bit) during the second firearm season which is the weekend before Thanksgiving.
Once it was in the forties other times it was in the upper 70's if not 80.
So basically I guess I'm saying expect any type of weather but I would guess more pleasant than brutally cold.
If your driving up and have room then I'd bring a ground blind. Always good to have an extra trick in your bag. This way you have it if you need it rather than wishing you did. If you don't have room then I think you could definetely do without it...plenty of good trees for treestands.
And Penetrator, it's not that bad here. Just because we had the highest gas prices in the country, Chicago was the murder capital of the country a couple years in a row, they won't get rid of the toll roads, the Chicago Machine wants to take everybody's guns,....
Anyways, good luck and we'll need to see some pics! Even if you don't fill your tag, the weather and leaves should be awesome. :)
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Shoot the first buck ya want to shoot, be it a spike or a monster. Do what makes you happy. I went on a hunt in Iowa one year and passed a 120+ inch deer the first day, never had a buck closer than 50 yards after that. I believe a climber is a great choice and maybe a couple of stands with a set of climbing sticks for those spots where ya cannot use a climber! Shawn
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ttt one last time, with a big thanks to everyone for all the help. I hope to be posting some pics within a few days !!!
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Sit all day if you can.
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Live North of Pike county about 40 miles. Bring clothes for 80 degree weather down to 20 degree weather when you come to Illinois. I do some guiding for an Outfitter in Brown county just North of Pike and have started to see several deer in the mornings and evenings in the harvested corn fields. More activity in the green fields. Ask your outfitter if he has planted any green food plots. Turnips' winter wheat ect. Set up by them in the mornings and evenings if possible. It is starting to get a little chilly in the evenings here so the bucks will start falling in love here pretty quick. Lots of acorns here so most of the deer feeding is still in the woods. Dont be afraid to set up in the hardwoods where you see a-lot of acorns and feeding activity. Bring a set of rattling horns or a call or two and try a little when you are hunting in the heavy timber. You just might get a big one who will want to see what's going on. Good luck Dean