What are your views on the stuff anyone use and think it helps?
LOL I have some, I use to be big on all the sprays also. Save your money, IMO its a gimmick. The only way to beat there nose is to play the wind.
I have been busted know matter what I have tried.
Other's will disagree of course so use your own judgement but I will second Horner's opinion.
Each must decide themselves but it's just one more thing I don't feel I need to mess with.
Just my 2 cents.
My 2 cents.
The carbon clothes are not worth the $$$, they "might" work to "some extent" for a short while, then they are worthless. It is impossible to reactivate them as the manufacturers claim. There is a lawsuit against the manufacturers do to that fact.
The undergarments with silver or other antimicrobial agents.....I think those are a better product. They don't completely eliminate your odor, but from experience they do seem to keep it down when you're sweating. Basically, it kills the bacteria when your sweat is absorbed by the garment.
God made the best scent eliminator....a nice straight wind. It's caused the demise of countless more animals than any of the above. :thumbsup:
I got busted just last Wednesday with a pair of scent controlled pants, jacket, rubber boots, and facemask. As soon as the deer got in front of the wind, bam, stopped and the nose went into the air. OH did I mention I sprayed down too?? I think it CAN help in certain situations. It CAN mask SOME scent, but the only way to beat 'em is the wind. My suggestion is if you find it on clearance, sure (all mine stuff was bought out of Cabela's Bargain Cave), but full price... HA. Never.
I believe that you can never compleatly fool there nose you have to hunt the wind , carbon clothes are a fad that is not fool proof , I think for my money I will wash my hunting gear with sent free soap..wash myself with sent free soap ,, not cook bacon in hunting gear , or smoke ,, my odds just went up but a whitetails nose is super :wavey: :goldtooth:
Not sure where I read it, but there was a fella who did several tests using a K-9 dog. Without boring you (and possibly not getting all the facts right), the dog was able to track and find the tester in every test. One of the tests involved "total scent control" with rubber boots, sprays, masks, carbon clothes.
Save your money and hunt into the wind.
Wind, wind, wind,wind. Get the point. Save your cash for some good wool.
doesnt work
put a little dental floss on your string and hunt accordingly.
I agree. The stuff doesn't work.
But here's a hypothetical question. If it did work. If it was 100% effective in blocking human scent, would you consider it fair chase to use it?
Fair chase has a lot of definitions. One is that the animal has to have a reasonable chance for escape. Thus, hunting behind high fences is not considered fair chase. Other, more expansive definitions would regard as unfair chase anything that takes unfair advantage of the animal. Shooting an animal caught in a fence, for example, or swimming, or with its antlers locked with another, etc. Would such a garment, if it existed, be taking unfair advantage of the animal?
An terrible waste of good money. You will be much better off using the wind. I would sooner try clorophyl tablets, or my favorite...rub some fresh garlic on your arm..on the inside opposite the elbow. It will permeate your blood stream and you will smell like the down draft from Olive Garden.
Play the wind, and if you want to invest in good hunting clothing, wear wool. Your body will trap less perspiration and produce less odor causing bacteria, not to mention, it lasts a long time, breathes, will keep you warm if wet, etc, etc. Nature seems to provide all we need. We just need to use it as intended.
Forget the wind...just hunt!!!
Seems like I heard that somewhere.
"Forget the wind...just hunt!!!" marketing campaign from a scent control clothing manufacturer...perhaps? :)
not worth the $$ IMHO.
It does not work..... play the wind. that works every time....
You just can't fool Mother Nature. Hunt the wind.
I don't care if it works or not. Even if it did work, I personally wouldn't use it.
220 dollars worth of comfortable hunting clothing is all it got me.
JUNK.Do not waste your money.
How are those boys going to put on those hunting shows if you quit buying those scent lock clothes and the buck roar, soap, expensive broadheads, boots, grunt tube, and the latest in deer cocaine. :smileystooges:
Everybody agrees so I will keep my money and buy something else. I think Orion made a very good point.
"If it was 100% effective in blocking human scent, would you consider it fair chase to use it?"
Wow- I must have all the olfactory-challenged deer behind my house. I'm absolutely convinced that the stuff works, and works well. It doesn't "eliminate" scent per se', but it certainly helps to minimize the "eminent danger" radius of your down wind scent. What I'm saying is this: On many, MANY occasions I've had deer walk past and down wind of me and react to my scent as though they were smelling danger that was 100-200 yards away instead of 15-30 yards away. FACT! And I might add, a fact that would be easy enough to demonstrate with a piece of dental floss, a video camera and a deer passing by downwind relative to the blowing dental floss.
It's almost a waste of words to say "hunt the wind". HOW ELSE would one hunt?
NOT dissimilar to washing our clothes in baking soda; or using scent free deodorant after taking a scent free shower, or avoiding smoke infested greasy-spoon diners before heading to our stands, or storing our clothes in airtight containers- scent containing clothes do, to some degree HELP MINIMIZE, albeit not totally "eliminate" our downwind scent.
Anyone who buys the stuff believing that they can "ignore the wind and just hunt" DESERVES the result they get.
If anyone really believes that this stuff works (carbon trapping scent molecules) then please explain this to me....
Why does every single manufacturer and retailer sell the stuff with absolutely no packaging to prevent it from becoming scent saturated before it is even purchased? I mean there is scent in the manufacturing facility, the warehouse, the semi trailer, the retailers sales floor etc. Couple that with the fact that there is absolutely no truth to the line that you can 100%, hell 20% even, remove those scent molecules in your dryer and you have just bought into the multimillion dollar lie that the manufacturers want you to.
Stop looking for SHORT CUTS and learn how to be a better hunter or there will always be the next best gadget out there to take you in and empty your wallet.
Kwazy Wascal,
You mean like compound bows, or CNC machined, $1,000-$1,300 laminated "traditional" bows, or sights, or tree stands, or pop-up blinds or food/sex attractant lures, or baiting (where legal) or GPS units or aerial maps or...
Short cuts like that? Easy there big fella.
I like the earth scent spray.
I THINK WE AS HUNTERS SHOULD USE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR US INDIVIDUALLY,AND NOT TELL EACH OTHER WHAT TO USE OR NOT USE.I STAY WITH WHAT HAS WORKED FOR ME.YES I USE SCENT CLOTHES EARLY AND GO TO WOOL AFTER IT COOLS DOWN.MY CLOTHES ARE 4 YRS. OLD.IALSO PLAY THE WIND TO MY ADVANTAGE.BUT SOME PLACES I HUNT YOU DONT HAVE THE OPTION TO GO IN TO HUNT INTO THE WIND.SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CHANCE IT.EVEN IF IT ONLY WORKS PSYCOLOGICALLY I FEEL BETTER ABOUT GOING IN.AT LEAST I CAN HUNT.INSTEAD OF GOING HOME.I USAULLY KILL 2-3 DEER A YEAR,SO IM STAYING WITH IT. SORRY SO LONG...CHRIS
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Wow- I must have all the olfactory-challenged deer behind my house. I'm absolutely convinced that the stuff works, and works well. It doesn't "eliminate" scent per se', but it certainly helps to minimize the "eminent danger" radius of your down wind scent. What I'm saying is this: On many, MANY occasions I've had deer walk past and down wind of me and react to my scent as though they were smelling danger that was 100-200 yards away instead of 15-30 yards away. FACT! And I might add, a fact that would be easy enough to demonstrate with a piece of dental floss, a video camera and a deer passing by downwind relative to the blowing dental floss.
It's almost a waste of words to say "hunt the wind". HOW ELSE would one hunt?
NOT dissimilar to washing our clothes in baking soda; or using scent free deodorant after taking a scent free shower, or avoiding smoke infested greasy-spoon diners before heading to our stands, or storing our clothes in airtight containers- scent containing clothes do, to some degree HELP MINIMIZE, albeit not totally "eliminate" our downwind scent.
Anyone who buys the stuff believing that they can "ignore the wind and just hunt" DESERVES the result they get.
I agree 100% with you. I use it sometimes in difficult areas to hunt and small properties with limited possible entry points. I hunt high pressured deer in areas with a lot of hunters. They are used to avoiding hunters at distances, but can be lax if they think you are a ways off. Always use the wind the best you can. If you are very detailed with scent control and hunt in areas where distant human scent is not a major alarm factor to the deer in the area, you can make them think you are a safe distance away.
I have shot several deer down wind of me while on the ground. They have either totally ignored me or looked past me and smelled the air only to relax or keep walking while I killed them. I had a day a couple years ago when I had my jacket open and spooked a doe down wind only to close up and shoot a buck 30 minutes later in exactly the same place with no wind change. He was totally relaxed. Last year I had the largest buck of the year catch me mid day 4' off the ground climbing a tree. He ran right past me. Then he circled me and came in to 10 yd. He picked up my scent and looked right past me into the distance. He watched the area for a while then snuck off with little hast. Without scent control he would have blown out as soon as he went past me.
If I hunted larger properties with a lot of options and much less pressure I wouldn't bother.
Everyone has their own opion, here is mine;
The hunting industry has alot going for them; the technology is far ahead of what it used to be; the bowyers of yesterday didn't have access to the modern materials that are present today which allows our traditonal bows to be made alot better; no difference with everything else; clothes,boots,gloves and the list goes on and on; BUT here is the problem as I see it;
The hunting industry has used and is using a BIG tool that makes all hunters believe that they MUST buy certain products to be "successful"; the tool is advertisment; the magazines, the so-called hunting shows,the so-called "celebrities" all do one thing over and over, they advertise! they hunt places that the general public will never hunt; they carry,wear,shoot,all kinds of things that in the real world of hunting is useless BUT because of big dead bucks and what they used to kill that big buck does one thing..it sells;
With all that said, if one believes that he/she will become a better hunter by using what has been advertised to the hill, then that is their own business; as for me,the "must have" camo,scent-lock clothing,bows shooting 400 fps,broadheads that open up to 3 inches,and everthing else,I'll just let them have it all;
I will take my longbow, my wool clothing{when cold} my worn out hat,my wood arrows with a good sharp,solid broadhead, and be happy with shooting does and not so big bucks and be thankful for the God given blessing of hunting...thanks for letting me rant.... :campfire:
I haven't used mine in 2 years, just not worried about it. It is lighter weight, so it can be worn in warmer weather or under heavier clothes. I'll give you a good price on it, if you want.
-Charlie