Well I put one down early this year. I'm greatful to have succeeded,but could have done with out the stress of getting it out of the woods without offending anyone. I shot it late friday night. Four deer came running in like there was only one acorn left. I mouth bleated
to stop them from going past my stand. Worked like a charm. The deer stop about five yards from my stand and the arrow was gone. Well trying to keep track of four deer going in all directions is alittle distracting. So i gave it thirty minutes. Slowly lowing myself to the ground I inspected the arrow. It was a pass threw. I left the area grab a cup of dunkin dounuts coffee. Went back in at about 8.30 and started tracking. The deer travel about fifty yards and I came apond a posted sign. Back out and left for home. Six o'clock Saturday found me skirting the property looking for sign. At 8:00 I made to phone calls one to a local guy who has tracking dogs, left a message. One to the owners of the property I needed to check. Gentlman answer the phone was a little apprehensive, but said drive in to his house because he had four german sheperds and didn't want them running out in the woods at me. So I start my search with the dogs at bay. Had great blood up until the property line than nothing. Finally started grid seaching and thinking like a deer.1oo yards fro last blood I found her laying in the open forest like she had died running. Phone rang It was the tracking guy. Timing is everything. Now getting the deer out with out upsetting the people, their
three kids and keeping the dogs out of the deer blood. Thank god for those cheap kids sleds, down threw the woods and in to the truck while the kids are in their tree house. Had the people put the dogs in the house. I apologized to the owners for bothering them and left. The part that bothered me the most was I felt like I had done somthing wrong, when in fact I didn't. By the nact alone of being a bowhunter we tend to be discreat about our presents. And I felt naked and exposed to these people. Any way the deer is in the freezer.
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First, congrats on the deer. Reading this made me realize how lucky I am to have access to about 100 acres of private land to hunt. My fiancee, myself and the land owners son are the only ones allowed to hunt the property. The closest house is probably a mile away. It sounds like you did everything the right way to me...Roy
I hear you Tradesman. MO has a managed archery hunt about 7 miles from my house. There are some giant deer in there as well. I drew that hunt about 3 years ago and I never went to hunt it. You had to kill 2 does before you could kill a buck. There are neighborhoods all over the place. The conservation went to great lengths to encourage a discreet removal of the deer....that sounded stressful to me! Good job on finding your deer!
Good job, Congradulations
I wouldn't worry about it a bit. I hunt several spots close to housing and recreation areas. You can't control where the deer runs and they know they live next to public game lands. I just try to be quiet and friendly. I've never had a problem with owners refusing access to track or recover; and if you are refused access, just call the sheriff or game warden to escort you to recover your game.
As for kids seeing ... they're usually more curious than shocked or dismayed.
Anyhow, congrats on the deer.
congrats on the deer..!
I said to a young kid this summer while attending the national bowhunter ed course, "never apologize for being a bowhunter. Hunt with ethics and pride, be a role model for others".
JDSIII
Thanks for the post guys. I wish the parents would have let the kids see it so they could have see life and death in it's true state instaed of on a video game where they come back to life at the beginning of each game. Thanks Greg
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QuoteOriginally posted by JDS3:
I said to a young kid this summer while attending the national bowhunter ed course, "never apologize for being a bowhunter. Hunt with ethics and pride, be a role model for others".
JDSIII [/QB]
Congrats :thumbsup:
First - congratulations!
So did the guy with the dogs take the picture?
...sorry, I couldn't resist.
I hunt in a very populated area of 5 acre home sites and understand your dilemma all too well. You did exactly the right thing and the homeowners will respect you for that.
tradesman,
as a founder of an urban hunting program we've already got a solution that I believe will work better for you.
Take two plastic bags in with you- one for the meat, one for the entrails/hide.
Pull those out on the sled and no one can get offended.
We've done this 2,500 times since 1999 and no one has made a fuss.
Good suburban hunting to you.
:thumbsup: well done,congrats on a fine doe.
Might take the person a couple of packages of meat. Tell them thanks. Or at least call and offer.
I can't get into hunting in the burbs anymore. I agree with not being apologetic but it just don't seem right. The last time I did it about 4 or 5 years ago, I could hear a high school football game. Back in the day(shooting compounds)we would hunt anywhere. My buddy could see a guy shaving from his treestand. Now, I pretty much only hunt at my cabin upstate. It's a long drive and the deer are few and far between but it's worth it to me. Just seems more like the way hunting should be.
well done :thumbsup:
Or you could carry a little G.I. entrenching tool and just bury the entrails. No muss, no fuss.
This is not a unique situation, even in the country. I hunt a small peiece of property that a family member owns. They have real problems with deer and appreciate my hunting on them. But, the whole dead deer thing turns them off. I take special pains to keep out of the public eye. There is no sense in offending those who don't like to see death.
Great job on the deer. I could hunt in some suburban areas but so far have not for fear of the same things you have encountered. I'm glad there are guys like you that can keep our image up and help out the landowners there.
The best option is to be professional and respectful. Leave an honorable impression for them to weigh. That's all you can do. Well done.
Congrats on the doe. You have an opportunity as some have said to build up the hunter image. Handled well it could lead to more property yo hunt or at least fewer against us.
Imagine the stress of not having a place to hunt at all. ;)
Well said by everyone above.
Ray, that would only work in a 'no check-in' state. Up here in mass you have to check in the whole carcass. I have a friend that shot a beautiful buck some years ago in CT and it ran on to the neighbors land and died behind the house. The guy went out and hacksawed the antlers off it and refused to let my friend retrieve either the body or the antlers. When my friend called the conservation officer the guy locked the antlers in his house and refused to cooperate. The CO wanted to take the guy in for theft and hunter harassment. My buddy simply said, just get my deer before the meat spoils and i'll be done with it. Sometimes things escalate before they even start.
Certainly glad I live in the country. Congratulations on the deer.
QuoteOriginally posted by Matt Fowler:
I can't get into hunting in the burbs anymore. I agree with not being apologetic but it just don't seem right. The last time I did it about 4 or 5 years ago, I could hear a high school football game. Back in the day(shooting compounds)we would hunt anywhere. My buddy could see a guy shaving from his treestand. Now, I pretty much only hunt at my cabin upstate. It's a long drive and the deer are few and far between but it's worth it to me. Just seems more like the way hunting should be.
First, congrats on the deer and the handling of the situation the right way.
My hat's off to you suburban hunters. I don't know how you do it. I'm pretty much with Matt on this one. I may complain about the lack of deer here on state land in the northcentral counties, but I think if I had to go back to hunting Northampton County, I'd give bowhunting up in a heartbeat.
Again....congrats! :clapper:
My current deer I am chasing will likely die on the 14th green. (I hope not)=) I would have to swim the river and ask the next foursome if I can drag through before they hit. Seriously it's not likely to happen, the 4 deer I have killed there have never crossed the river, but I always fear they will. If they were smart they would just head for the hospital up on the hill, and find a sympathetic person to fix them up.
oz
Tioga,
Unfortunately, there are many like you.
We've created this mess- by demanding our game departments work to increase deer numbers over the last 50 years.
Now, our non-hunting citizens have a problem: too many deer, not enough food for them= too many deer/car collisions and flower beds and shrubbery being destroyed.
If some of us don't do this, and help the 80% out who don't hunt but who will vote for whether we get to continue or not- guess what? The 80%, the insurance companies and our ever-wonderful politicians, along with what's left of the free market will perfect that ever elusive high confidence birth control technique for deer in response.
When deer numbers go back down again...and the reintroduction of wolves continues as well as the total maxing out of coyote populations- don't come back here and complain about not having any hunting- please.
Obviously many of you don't live in urban areas- those of you who do, and drive 3 hours to hunt the "wilds" are missing out.
You don't have to sit on someone's deck to hunt urban/suburban.
There's always a 20 acre patch of ground somehwere that's undeveloped. It's guaranteed to be a deer haven- use those spots during the week to get in a quick hunt before or after work- you'll be amazed at the numbers and the quality of deer you have an opportunity to harvest.
If you don't need the venison still participate and donate your harvest through the Hunters for the Hungry program- get involved, before someone takes the opportunity away from you.
If you want to start a program of your own, you don't have to reinvent the wheel- email me and I will send you EVERYTHING you need- forms, procedures, and processes, as well as techniques for getting membership, how to sell landowners on the benefits, and how to get coaches within your state conservation corps to help you attract properties.
There's only 33,000,000 people in this pic.
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Lion kill in back yard.
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If I know that what I am doing is legal and I know bowhunting is a honorable way of procuring my meat, I just keep smiling all the way to the freezer.
I live and hunt in the burbs. Not only did Pa. recognize that deer were a problem in urban areas they set it up for archery hunters to hunt 50 yards from a occupied building. My quietest hunts are right in the neighborhood, no 4 wheelers, target practice, or other hunters. Big bucks but hard to pattern.