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Title: I'm Russ, and I'm a bowaholic...pics added on p.3!
Post by: 30coupe on September 12, 2009, 12:34:00 AM
Okay, I have to admit it, I'm addicted.

I decided I needed a takedown bow (you know, in case I get another chance to go to Alaska), so I started shopping. Wouldn't you know, I found one      :eek:  

I had just about convinced myself to order a new Chek-Mate Hunter II. Then my hunting partner reminded me of how much quieter longbows are than recurves. I went home and shot both...he was right. As quiet as I think I have my recurves, they still don't come close to longbow quiet.     :readit:     A money order is wending it's way via the USPS to New Hampshire where my new (to me)Kota Prairie Nomad lies in wait, already packaged for shipment. She has two sets of 62" limbs: 53# @ 29" and 53# @ 28", yew veneers over bamboo core, cocobolo and ebony riser...drool...       :jumper:    

Yes, I am a bowaholic...but I'm done now      :rolleyes:
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on September 12, 2009, 01:52:00 AM
Done now? Never say never!

 :archer:
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Post by: hill boy on September 12, 2009, 05:20:00 AM
let us know how it shoots.
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Post by: Big Ed on September 12, 2009, 07:26:00 AM
I have been saying I am done for about ten years now. LOL Ed
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Post by: Hot Hap on September 12, 2009, 03:56:00 PM
I've got a CM HII you might be able to talk me out of. Hap

PS Congradulations
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Post by: bentpole on September 12, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Welcome to the club.   :biglaugh:
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Post by: Day Dreamer on September 12, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
Did you see that sweet silvertip in the classifieds.
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Post by: mcgroundstalker on September 12, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
Ya could be doing alot worse things in life. Buyin' alot of bows is fun. Just ask my wife.  :rolleyes:

... mike ...
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Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on September 12, 2009, 10:33:00 PM
You know I said when I got into trad that I just needed one good longbow and it would last me the rest of my life....
I shoot a Bear montana longbow, never thought I would enjoy a recurve as much as as a long bow but somehow I ended up with a Bear super mag 48" that I don't think I can part with. Then I discovered all these fine bowyers out there and I am waiting on my Striker Slapstick from Rick Ellis (Spent a day at his shop shooting and WOW) Got another bow ordered from Rick for a bear hunt next year.
My wife said she didn't see how I could need all these bows and I told her I read a guys signature on here that said "If you want it more than three times you surely need it" (Love that theory) and I have been looking at some MadDog bows, Waiting till I want it the third time LOL.
Love my bows and love shooting them, It's good clean fun!
Kris
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 12, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
:cool:
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Post by: Shleprock on September 12, 2009, 11:29:00 PM
Hey 30coupe check out a Kota Killum. You'll soon add one of them to your list. The best of both worlds.
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Post by: Stan the bow man on September 12, 2009, 11:35:00 PM
Theres a step for that addiction.Pick up another chip.Or keep on keeping on.  :knothead:    :banghead:    :pray:
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Post by: Steve Clandinin on September 12, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
30 years ago I said the same thing,now 30 bows later I'm still going strong.I'm sorry my boy but I don't think many of us here have found the cure.I really like your last statement "I'm done now", yes the cheques in the mail and I love you ! LOL.
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Post by: 30coupe on September 13, 2009, 12:15:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Shleprock:
Hey 30coupe check out a Kota Killum. You'll soon add one of them to your list. The best of both worlds.
I had a Killum a while back. Nice bow, very pretty, but the grip just wasn't right for me, so it found a new home. It was probably the smoothest drawing recurve I have shot though. I hope the Nomad will be the same. The measurement on the grip is much better anyway.
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Post by: Ray on September 13, 2009, 07:57:00 AM
I just wish some of you would drop some weight,so you would sell something I could shoot.(LOL)
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Post by: mooseman1967 on September 14, 2009, 12:24:00 AM
On one particular sunday this summer the misses was gone for the day so I decided to take all my bows out and look them over (see what needed new strings and such) out on the picnic table well actually it took both tables. Wouldn't ya know it she came home early and caught me red handed, she finally found out how many I had. I used the same old line of "well some are for the kids"
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Post by: TheFatboy on September 14, 2009, 03:58:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by mooseman1967:
On one particular sunday this summer the misses was gone for the day so I decided to take all my bows out and look them over (see what needed new strings and such) out on the picnic table well actually it took both tables. Wouldn't ya know it she came home early and caught me red handed, she finally found out how many I had. I used the same old line of "well some are for the kids"
:knothead:
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Post by: saltwatertom on September 14, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
Hey Russ, I just got back from a bear hunt last nite, (been guiding for 10 days, we got a BIG one but I can't talk about that here seein as it was a gun hunt), way to go on the new bow. Just remember the to keep telling youself, "I can quit any time I want to"   :D    :biglaugh:  

I expect to see that bow next spring for your black bear hunt.
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Post by: on September 14, 2009, 12:02:00 PM
Keep comin' back, Russ. One day at a time.
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Post by: weezy on September 14, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
Good luck. If you figure out how to quit, please let me know.
Bob
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Post by: Spike on September 14, 2009, 04:18:00 PM
Russ,bow shipped this afternoon. Sent email with details.
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Post by: Oliverstacy on September 14, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
Darn you...I had items on the Bay hoping to get enough funds for that one!

Man I wish I had more Paypal money!

Let us know how it shoots.

Josh
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Post by: Jason Kendall on September 14, 2009, 06:36:00 PM
I hear ya Russ, I can build myself any style of bow I want but I just cant seem to stop looking at that Predator recurve Vermonster has for sale! I have wanted one of them before I started building bows over 14 years ago and I still havent owned one! VERY tempting!
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 14, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
Well Jason all you have to do is tempt me with one of yours maybe.    :D
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Post by: 30coupe on September 14, 2009, 10:59:00 PM
Jason, I looked at that one too, but I had Dave measure the grip and it's a bit large for my hands. Besides, I am a sucker for a longbow...as if you didn't know, lol! I bet I know a guy who could customize the grip to fit your hand and shoot it with a few coats of Thunderbird though.    :thumbsup:  

Tom, I'm putting the rest of my fun money in my Alaska fund. If I don't make it next spring I'll be there the next one for sure. PM or email me the details on the bear. I think about you guys often. Can't wait to get back up there...no place like the Kenai Peninsula. You and Bill Sant were gracious hosts who made a great trip even more special.

Josh, sorry buddy. I saw your post and felt a twinge of guilt...but I think I'm over it now    ;)
I'll keep you all posted on the Nomad. If it shoots as good as it looks I'll be thrilled.  

Spike - I emailed you back. I'll be haunting the mailman.
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Post by: Oliverstacy on September 14, 2009, 11:51:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by 30coupe:
 


Josh, sorry buddy. I saw your post and felt a twinge of guilt...but I think I'm over it now      ;)  
That made me laugh a touch!  But the sorrow is still there...but gee the new washing machine is nice   :knothead:    man are those things expensive.

Josh
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Post by: 30coupe on September 15, 2009, 12:10:00 AM
[/QUOTE]That made me laugh a touch!  But the sorrow is still there...but gee the new washing machine is nice    :knothead:     man are those things expensive.

Josh [/QB][/QUOTE]

At least your camo will be clean    :goldtooth:
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Post by: Oliverstacy on September 15, 2009, 12:22:00 AM
Russ...I'm not sure I can get the sad smell of last year's season out of my hunting cloths, but I guess this thing will give it a run for its money!  Last season really stunk!  Then my horrible shooting  :thumbsup:  

Josh
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Post by: 30coupe on September 15, 2009, 12:28:00 AM
Josh...I'll second the darn turkeys idea...since I dare not print what I REALLY think of them.

Looks like you've got quite a nice batch of bows there already. How's the WhisperStik test going?
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Post by: Oliverstacy on September 15, 2009, 03:25:00 AM
It's going well...I guess I'm just very lucky!  JD and I are going to try out luck this weekend for deer here in Michigan.  Last year they had a special doe season; you can hunt with a firearm or a bow but either way you have to wear the required orange.  We'll do it the same way this year as we did last...stickbows and orange!  :thumbsup:  

Currently I have a bow that I call "Thor" and we're going to see how many different people can take does with it.  62" Voodoo...60@28", it simply smokes an arrow!  Osage beauty.  My next WhisperStik is a bow that is currently being referred to as "Winner Winner Chicken Dinner".  Never bet a bored insomniac he can't find something  "[dntthnk]"  , you're going to loose every time.  In this case he lost in first class fashion!  Sorry JD couldn't resist.

Josh
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Post by: 30coupe on September 16, 2009, 10:03:00 PM
The Nomad arrived today. She's a beauty.

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Kota%20Prairie%20Nomad/Limbspecsa.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Kota%20Prairie%20Nomad/Kotastrung.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Kota%20Prairie%20Nomad/assylimbs.jpg)

And man does she shoot!

Three shots at 16 yards with 53# @ 28" limbs.

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Kota%20Prairie%20Nomad/KotaPrairieNomad001.jpg)

Fifteen, twenty and twenty-five yards. I held a little low at 25, but I think I would still have a dead deer. Not bad for the first day!

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Kota%20Prairie%20Nomad/KotaPrairieNomad004.jpg)

Zwickey Deltas with steel inserts (235 gr.) on Beman ICS Bowhunter 500 shafts with 5" shield cut feathers (about 520 gr. total) at 20 yards. I didn't have guts enough to shoot a third one!

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Kota%20Prairie%20Nomad/KotaPrairieNomad005.jpg)

I didn't do a lot of tuning, just some shooting. These are the arrows I have set up for my 52# Kanati. It looks like they will be just the ticket with both bows. Heck they shoot great from my Badger and my 46# Kanati too.

First impressions of the bow: very stable, butter smooth draw, shoots right where you point her. It seems a tad slower than my 52# Kanati and maybe a touch louder to me. My daughter was with me when I shot though and said all she could hear was the arrows hitting the target! To be fair, the Kanati has an 8 strand string with a single set of cat whiskers, while the Kota has what appears to be a Black Widow string with probably 16 strands and a set of four Widow silencers. This could probably account for the slight difference in perceived speed (no chrono). One of these days I'll make up a skinny string for the Kota for an apples to apples comparison. As well as I shoot with it just the way it is, maybe I should leave well enough alone.

Oh, and Josh, that little twinge of guilt went away when my first arrow punched out the orange dot on that bottom squirrel on the target      :saywhat:  

This one's a keeper for sure! Thanks for letting her go, Spike.   :bigsmyl:
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Post by: TheFatboy on September 17, 2009, 04:35:00 AM
Everytime I see all these new bows, I keep thinking of those many months I still have to wait for my custom bow. It's a pain!

May you and your new bow live some wonderful years together!
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Post by: Spike on September 17, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Russ,sure looks like it works for you! Nice shootin. String is a BW 14 strand DF97. I had a 10 strand 450+ on it but it had a broken strand so I setup the one thats on it. I found the 450+ to be a little more quiet than the DF97 on most of my bows.
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Post by: 30coupe on September 17, 2009, 07:39:00 AM
Thanks, Spike. I've got two spools of D97 that I've made maybe a dozen skinny strings from, so I'll probably be using that for quite a while yet. I'll whip up an 8 or 10 strand string for the Kota and see how it performs. Without a chrono, it's just a guess as to which one is faster, but I can see a bit more drop at 25 yards with the Kota, so I think it's a tad slower. Also, my Kanati started out at 52.75# and may not have dropped as much as Jason anticipated, so the draw weight may not even be a pound different. Add a heavier string and you may have a drop in speed. That doesn't mean the Kota is slow because the Kanati will just plain smoke an arrow!

Speed aside, it is a sweet shooter! And it's found a home    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Oliverstacy on September 17, 2009, 10:02:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by 30coupe:
Oh, and Josh, that little twinge of guilt went away when my first arrow punched out the orange dot on that bottom squirrel on the target       :saywhat:  

Keep rubbing it in...love the salt!  :biglaugh:  

I will order one someday...or save some pennies and buy one next year at Denton Hill.

Tim sent me a 60" Nomad to try last fall...I almost bought that bow.  He refinished the limbs and made a new riser and brought it to Denton Hill, almost bought it there.  It was the Arch Royal addition with the spliced Cocobolo/Curly Myrtle limb veneers with a Cocobolo/Ebony riser.  

54@28 pounds and shot like a dream.

Josh


Josh
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Post by: 30coupe on September 17, 2009, 04:15:00 PM
Mine looks like kind of a combo. It has the arched riser, but not the spliced limb veneers. That one sounds great too. They draw so smoothly, it doesn't seem like 53#, but it shoots like it.