Just an observation every shoot i go to people shooting Black Widows are always in the top 3.Are these bows magical or do they just shoot that good.
This is just a discusion not meant to make people mad. :bigsmyl:
I am going to the IBO Traditional worlds Saturday so we'll see how they do.
Both...they are magical and they shoot very well. Make no mistake...there are a lot of good bows out there. I've shot my share. For me it comes down to the handle. I like the Asbell styled grip on my bow and it fits me. It is hard to explain...but it just fits. I don't have to fight or fidget to get into proper shooting form.
I've shot quieter bows, faster bows, and prettier bows...but not as well as my 58" PSA.
Having said that there are some I haven't shot that I'd like to try. Great Plains, Blacktail, and Morrison come to mind. A sleeper from Texas is one of Ron Foleys bows. Darn nice for the money.
I agree completely with scarne... They shoot good in all aspects, but not the best in any one, however they shoot amazing when it is all combined together.
Won 5 tournaments this year so far with mine, gonna be six this weekend i hope.
I just lean mine against the stake and it shoots 10's all by it'self.
I take it you got a widow randy, What kind did you end up with? You gonna be at brierfield?
Switched from a PMA to a PSA and my shooting improved on day one. Everything just seems to fit. Some days it feels like it shoots all by itself. That being said, I'd love to try a Morrison.
I'm a big supporter of Black Widow. I personally feel its the person 99.99% of the time. You don't need a black Widow to shoot a great score and come in 1st
No Thomas,I probably won't make Brierfield.We have our hands full with my new son.I just got a new PLX.
Frassettor,
I agree completly,just said it a little differently.
The Widow is a well made stable bow with enough mass weight to help a little.There are no magic bows,not even Widows.We would all be better served if we spent as much time learning how to shoot as looking for a perfect shooting bow.
congrats on the new son man!
I haven't found that to be the case in tournaments around here. However, Widows are good shooting bows, no doubt. They have been around a long time and there are a lot of them out there. Thus, probability likely explains some of the results you see in your area, i.e., there's just more people shooting them than any other brand. Or maybe it's just that the best shooters end up with Widows eventually. :bigsmyl:
Bob Lees take everything around here!!
My opinion is the Black Widows are awesome bows. They have plenty of weight, so they are more stable than some others I've shot. But it still comes down to the person. A good shooter will out shoot anybody with whatever bow...
As for the IBO worlds, I'm betting someone shooting a Dakota Bow will win it.. Namely, Rick Welch.
for 3d shoots around here its usually whatever bow im holding in my hand, jk its not magic its practice and its not the stick its the indian
Sounds to me like you have quite a few Widow shooters in your area.
I've seen Toby sprinkle magic pixie dust on them and say some kind of chant over them before they ship them out to their customers. :)
I belive it lol!
Well, I'm predominately a longbow shooter myself. I have some custom made bows and shoot them pretty well. Even have some recurves that I was shooting better than my longbows. But, all that changed when I picked up a 62" PLII from off the classifieds from a most generous gentleman named Denny Kleiman. I shoot this bow better than any bow I've picked up to date. It is a nail driver and one of the most smoothest pulling longbows I've ever shot.
I am about to unload some excess bows so that I can get me a brand new PL that is a little heavier for elk hunting. I don't know what they do at Black Widow but, I hope it never changes! :thumbsup:
I own 6 Widders.
I ain't never won squat.
I just picked up a 2006 PLII 60@28 64" from RMSG and I have to say that my experience was just like wannabe1's. Black Widow makes one fine LongBow. I immediately moved it to my leading hunting bow for Elk this season, with no hesitation, and only a week till the hunt.
I have several of their recurves and I shoot them very well. And I have a Morrison ILF and I still don't shoot the Morrison as well as the widows but I'm getting it figured out. Their both great bows, with the Morrison being very light in weight and a little faster if you can believe that.
And on the lighter side the widows have a neat bark that the Ladies seem to like and the men wheel bow shooters are jealous of .
You fellers need to get to some more shoots out of the region 8^). Black Widows are nice bows, but you really need to get outside the little box of 3D to see where the ship really hits the sand. See what's shooting top scores on the NFAA circuit where the shots are farther than 30 or 40 yards. Mostly you will find ILF limbs and metal risers standing on the podium.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Widows and their history, and the beauty of wood risers, but there's others out there that are better overall for stacking arrows in the five ring.
George your right, but if you limit the bows to shooting off the shelf then those metal riser ILF bows don't shoot any better.
We have a traditional class in our state shoots here most of the time and we shoot off the shelf in that class. A Navajo Bow usually wins it. But I'm steadily climbing into the game with my Widow. And I shoot outdoor at 45 and 65 yards unless I'm practicing for elk hunting.
I still don't shoot anything as well as I have shot my bear takedown though. I've broke more arrows with that bow than any other.
That is a very true statment, but im just not into those.. there fun but i love to hunt too much with my osag/cocobola PTFX w/ Canebreaks.......
Its so beautiful and gracefull, gotta love wood bows
I'm able to miss superbly-well with my Black Widows.
I do like them, but they don't have more accuracy magic than other comparible bows.
BW, Morrison, Bob Lee - they are all fantastic bows. I love my BW PMA II but before I got her, I won plenty of 3D tourneys shooting a Martin Hunter. A good, consistent, focused shooter and a well made, consistent shooting bow are a winning combination.
I believe Widows are some of the best made bows out there, I also believe that most of the best shooters will eventially shot a Widow. I've also been to Nixa and saw Toby sprinkle pixie dust on the bows.
I have owned alot of very nice bows last few years and can say my PSX-X is one of the easiest bows I have ever owned to shoot with accuracy. Like stated above I have had faster bows and quieter bows but the shape and weight of the PSA riser just makes it easy to shoot well. Right now I am mainly shooting Morrisons but my PSA-X still gets the call time to time and I bagged a nice tom this spring with it and several wild hogs this spring.
Have a BW longbow agree over all it provides for an excellent combination of features we all look for in a bow. And it is the person pulling the string that make it happen. Does help to have a bow you have confidence with, thanks Jerry.