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Title: dental floss?
Post by: Covey on September 09, 2009, 04:57:00 PM
I have tryed several differant kinds and still have'nt found one thats good! do you guy's have a brand your partial to? " I'm not cleaning my teeth with it, just so you know"  :biglaugh:  Jason
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Pat B on September 09, 2009, 05:11:00 PM
Artificial sinew is similar to dental floss.  I used unflavored floss.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Grant Young on September 09, 2009, 05:16:00 PM
I use the cheapest unwaxed floss I can find in discount stores for nocking points. Don't know what you are using it for so I couldn't make a suggestion. Grant
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: hvyhitter on September 09, 2009, 05:21:00 PM
never liked dental floss...never lasted long as a nock point....use serving thread now,lasts forever.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on September 09, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
Depends on what you are using it for.  

Dental floss is the most bulletproof thread on the planet.  Sew a button on with it and then try to tear that button off...
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: AkDan on September 09, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
I also started using dental floss years ago and learned to tie on nocks with the regular nylon serving.  Works excellent!  If you're trying to use floss for nocks safe your hairline!
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: frank bullitt on September 09, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
Jason, didn't I put in a piece of F.F., pale yellow, in with that string for a nock?
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Covey on September 09, 2009, 06:44:00 PM
Yea you did Steve! what kind is it? that stuff works really good! For the rest of ya'll it is for the nock point! Thanks guy's, Jason
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: LKH on September 09, 2009, 06:44:00 PM
I use pieces out of old bow strings.  Boil it first to get the wax out.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: xtrema312 on September 09, 2009, 06:52:00 PM
I use Johnson and Johnson Clean-burst Berry Mint waxed for nocks.  Cinnamon is good also and they match my string, smell nice for a while, and seem to work ok so far.    :)  

My hunting buddy is my dentist so I seem to have a lot of those trial size floss dispensers and tooth brushes.  I also get free advice at 5 in the morning about how bad diet Coke and McDonalds Mocha coffee is for my teeth.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: George D. Stout on September 09, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
I've used waxed dental floss for decades.  It wears like iron, stays tight, and is cheap.  I'm still using a roll of it I got six or seven years ago.  If you wind it on tight and use a whip finish to tie it off, it's not going anywhere.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Big Ed on September 09, 2009, 07:09:00 PM
I use the Dento-tape. I believe it is a Johnson-Johnson Product.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: GingivitisKahn on September 09, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
My nock locater on my new string is made of some crummy, shred-happy dental floss my dentist gave me.  What utter junk - I need dental floss to get the shredded remains of this stuff out of my teeth.

On the other hand, it's five yards of free nock locater material for my bow.  A few granny knots, and a dab of glue and yahoo-yippity - I'm in business.

For the teeth - dental tape works way better for me.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Gottabow on September 09, 2009, 09:14:00 PM
Anyone have a great way to tie knocking points and want to share it?  Thanks
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: RLA on September 09, 2009, 09:21:00 PM
This is my method and it work's for me. I start by finding the proper nocking point with a brass nock set left loose so it can be moved up or down the string. When I find the right spot I mark it with a magic marker and remove the brass nock. I then use waxed dental floss as my nock set. After I reach the desired diameter of twist and tie it off. I use a cigarette lighter to burn the ends and melt the wax slightly and carefully. Then let it harden for a few minutes before shooting.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Gottabow on September 09, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
What type of knot do ya use?
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: xtrema312 on September 09, 2009, 10:15:00 PM
I start at the far point I want it away from the arrow for a bottom and a top nock point.  I tie a basic knot and leave the tag end.  Then I wrap tight and close turns up to the point I want at the arrow.  Then I continue to wrap back with a second layer to the start.  I do a basic knot again using the same tag end from when I started.  I cut the ends down close to the knot.  That is all.  I rub it in a little to work the wax and add a little wax if needed to make it all like one solid material.  I have done more complex multiple knots, but I found this to work just fine.  What I like best is I simply cut the knot off and unwrap it down to the first knot.  I can usually pull it and break it or at lest stretch it a little to cut it with no danger of cutting something I don't want to cut.  I have used multiple knots while doing the wrap thinking I needed them, but that just made getting it off a lot more difficult.  I have about 2000 arrow out of one of my bows with the way I do it now and no sign of any issue.  If one does come loose I would just unwrap it a little and pull the end through a couple loops to snug it back down until  I can tie a new one.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: LC on September 09, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
To temp find my nocking point I use electrical tape, actually it works really well by its self. I use barber scissors to cut thin strips of it without getting my finger imprints on it. As a plus it comes in a multitude of colors. But when I find the sweet spot I simply unwind the old tape and  use dental floss or old B50 and tie it on using half knots till it's the size I want the then full knot it, dap it with super glue. When it's dry cut the tag ends and super glue again pushing the tag ends down smooth.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: AkDan on September 10, 2009, 01:32:00 AM
gottabow,

it's pretty simple...

Start with some number 4 nylon serving cut of 10 "es or so.

Now start with basic overhand knots....(the first step in tying your shoe).

one on the facing you, then, working down (or up your pref here but I do like to keep the finish not away from my nock so I go up), one on the back side, I do this 4 times, 4 in front 4 in back....on the last knot, I double the overhand knot and pull tight.  Cut your tags appx 1/4" and burn them with a lighter ...they'll burn and start melting...once they are close to burning into the knot I'll mash them into the nock point I just made by wetting my fingers..pretty simple and it works extremely well.

If you tie the over hand knots to tight you wont be able to twist the knock up or down..if it's too loose it'll be sloopy and move on you.   I dont tightn them too tight more like slightly more then snug by a skosh   :D  .  If you find yourself too LOOSE..you can always hittm with a dab of super glue once you get it where you want.  

My dental floss nock points would eventually go to crap on me and they can be a pain to set just where you want them.  I think it has more to do with how I shoot but for whatever reason I always tore them up.  I did shoot every day at one point in life.   Who knows, but what I do know is since I moved on to tying on nocks with serving material problems solved!  You'll see a red number 4 nylon nock on all of my bows.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Whitetail Chaser on September 10, 2009, 01:47:00 AM
First off, you should all have floss in your bathrooms since you floss every day, right?

Actually I am a dentist, but I no longer use floss for my nock points.  I will use it for a wind feather, but for nocks I stick to the crimp-on brass ones.

Brett
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Davo on September 10, 2009, 03:11:00 AM
Is there something wrong with using a regular knock or is that not traditional.  Should I take my brass knock off, dont want to be socially ostricized.  I have dental floss, I like dental floss its my friend but is there an advantage and do I just use an overhand knot or what is the twist mentioned above and If I shoot 3 under should I use two knocks or strings.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: QUINT on September 10, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Just as George says. I do put a drop of titebond2 on it also, and whip knot it as I wrap it, top and bottom, and finish with a squareknot. Nock points last for ever that way.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: QUINT on September 10, 2009, 06:50:00 AM
Brass nocks work well on compounds and for release shooters. I've tried them several times with the same result. They tear up my tabs. They are not as hard on gloves, but they do cut them also.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: xtrema312 on September 10, 2009, 07:33:00 AM
I find they tear up my tab also.  I like to use one above and one below so that is double wear on two fingers plus extra weight on the string.  I use them to tune then change them.  However, I recently started experimenting with electrical tape for temporary nock points so brass nocks may soon disappear from my tackle box.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: frank bullitt on September 10, 2009, 07:37:00 AM
Yes dental floss, nylon serving or any of the string materials can be used. Alot of ways to "skin the cat"!  I always apply a little super glue to finish or you can even use the wife's hard fingernail polish.

 I shoot  bare fingers, so no brass nocks for me. And with all the different dia. size "new age" strings, there isn't a one size fit all brass nock set! Good shootin, Steve
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: hvyhitter on September 10, 2009, 08:30:00 AM
Once I find the correct nock point on my string, I double serve it for about an inch above in a different serving color. It never slips and is easy to find in low light or by feel if need be. The little brass ones allways seemed to slip and I always worried about string damage under the serving.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: MCNSC on September 10, 2009, 10:05:00 AM
I just started using electrical tape also, plan to leave it and see how long it last, so far so good. Quick and easy. hope it last a while
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: amar911 on September 10, 2009, 10:48:00 AM
I make a loop at one end of a foot long piece of dental floss, wrap over the loop with the long end of the floss until I get things built up to the size I want them, pass the long end of the floss through the loop, pull the loop all the way through, pull both ends to tighten everything up, and then cut off the two tag ends. I do one of these above and one below. It requires nothing but two lengths of dental floss and about 3 minutes, and I always have dental floss on hand because I use it on my teeth every day.   :goldtooth:  

Allan
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: bolong on September 10, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
I've been using dental floss for about 35 years. I put fingernail polish on it when I'm finished with it and put another coat on itas needed. Get a smoother release and doesn't wear on my glove like brass nock.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: Gottabow on September 10, 2009, 11:27:00 AM
Thanks for the input guys..good shooting to yas
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: AkDan on September 10, 2009, 02:32:00 PM
I used to bike everywhere with my bow and a brass nock if it got inbetween my handle bars and the bow would scratch the heck outta my bow.  So I quickly went to shooting floss...and then to the nylon serving tied on.
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: TxAg on September 12, 2009, 01:12:00 AM
"Start with some number 4 nylon serving cut of 10 "es or so.

Now start with basic overhand knots....(the first step in tying your shoe).

one on the facing you, then, working down (or up your pref here but I do like to keep the finish not away from my nock so I go up), one on the back side, I do this 4 times, 4 in front 4 in back....on the last knot, I double the overhand knot and pull tight. Cut your tags appx 1/4" and burn them with a lighter ...they'll burn and start melting...once they are close to burning into the knot I'll mash them into the nock point I just made by wetting my fingers..pretty simple and it works extremely well."


I just untied my old nock and retied two (one above and one below) using the above method. Worked really well. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: dental floss?
Post by: AkDan on September 12, 2009, 01:14:00 AM
np tx!