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Title: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: BRONZ on September 09, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
How many guys sit around the fire with their hunting clothes on?  Or, do you change into something that won't be worn while carrying your bow?

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Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on September 09, 2009, 12:54:00 PM
I have never been very concious of my smell (I've always hunted with a rifle and smells were an advantage as it would sometimes bump a buck which I'd reach out and touch with a .30-06. Since taking up the bow I've had to change a lot of habits - still haven't sealed the deal but one of the things I've been more aware of is sent. I use scent killer soap and spray my clothes before hitting the trail, but I'm convinced after a few minutes of hiking there's no doubt I'm giving off human odor, regardless of what I've done to mitigate the problem. Frankly, if the wind isn't in your face it doesn't matter what you've done or what you smell like...

All that being said, I'd expect the smell of campfire to be less offensive or alerting to a deer than the smell of In-And-Out Burger remnants   :D
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Post by: VAFarmer on September 09, 2009, 01:05:00 PM
I don't know about campfire, but animals in general don't like smoke.  There is a big difference between the smell of smoke and smoke itself.  
I speculate that if he can smell the smoke in your clothes, he can smell YOU.  
I wouldn't worry too much if you are setting up downwind, or in a stand.

after a long day, sometimes you're just too tired to change anyway  :)
God bless,

Farmer
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 09, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
I have sat in the smoke around a campfire intentionally since I saw African bushmen doing it. They burn elephant dung and sit in the smoke. They are better hunters than most of us can ever hope to be, so I figured it couldn't hurt.

On another note, I have a buddy that has had to put down his cigarette twice to shoot deer. He tagged two does from about 10 to 15 yds on diferent occasions WHILE smoking a cigarette in the woods. He has also shot about a dozen more deer smelling like a stale cigarette without any scent blocker or cover scent. Go figure..there is something to say for luck.

I sit in the smoke, always play the wind and spray my boots or step in a puddle...other than that nothing special and I have had a number of deer at tripping distance.

Just do what works for you.    :thumbsup:    

Your results may vary,
-Charlie

**Have you guys ever seen the incense sticks you burn that are used to attract deer? They supposedly work. Too much crap to keep up with, just grab your bow and hunt.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: George D. Stout on September 09, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
I just wonder how the scent free stuff smells to a deer!   We base everything on our sense of smell, not the deers.  And you will notice that the ScentFree, whatever stuff advertises 99% effective on "replicated" human odor.  

I would say smoke would have little effect, based on my experience.  Now, I'm sure the scent people will tell you different.   Most "scent" stuff is made to eliminate "cents",  as well as "sense."
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: 44charlie on September 09, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
i used to smoke my camo intentionally as a cover scent, keep the bugs away too.
lets face it most deer are shot and never smell you only because the wind is in your favor. so therefo i make no effort anymore to be anything but stinky!
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Post by: jacobsladder on September 09, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
i believe smoke would help more than hinder... its the human scent or scent of a predator that is the problem...... a deers sense of smell is way better than we can comprehend.... so you can imagine how much scent they take in and process daily.... it doesnt take long for them to relate a certain scent with danger..... i dont think the hunter can cover his human odor from a deers nose... he can only help by playing the wind.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: bolong on September 09, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
I personally believe smoke from a camp fire may actually help. Where I hunt the smoke can infiltrate the woods for a long distance, depending on weather conditions, wind direction, humidity etc.  I think the deer are used to it and it doesn't seem to bother them ar all. I have observed as well as killed many after leaving the campfire and getting on my stand. I just think of the smoke as a cover scent.Some may disagree but I can only speak of my experiences.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: Don Stokes on September 09, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
Had to put down a pipe once to shoot a deer, back when I did that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 09, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
The wind is the wind....

My clothes smell like campfire smoke pretty much all the time.
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Post by: svenska on September 09, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
the Natives always smoked themselves before a hunt for cover scent..it is a natural smell and as long as you're hunting into or across wind it ain't no problem anyway.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: Jerry Ragle on September 09, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
bear hunted with some guys in canada thought they we crazy all of them stood around a camp fire wearing there camo all of them killed bears.said the bears were use to the smell of smoke because of controled burns in that area.
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Post by: p1choco on September 09, 2009, 08:16:00 PM
QuoteAll that being said, I'd expect the smell of campfire to be less offensive or alerting to a deer than the smell of In-And-Out Burger remnants    :D  [/QB]
Smelling like In and Out?  I'd be a dead deer if you smelled like that  :biglaugh: .
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: GingivitisKahn on September 09, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
Sit in the smoke, snarf down another s'more and keep the wind in in your face.  Scent control accomplished.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: LKH on September 09, 2009, 08:32:00 PM
Almost all my hunting is spot and stalk and I never worry about how I smell.  I do pay extreme attention to the wind and will make every effort to staying downwind.  

Animals don't spook because of smoke smell.  Fire is part of their environment.

Ever see the picture of the elk drinking from the river with huge flames in the background?
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: deertraks on September 10, 2009, 07:14:00 AM
I intentionally smoke my clothes and it works. A lot has been debated about this, all I know is it works for me. Try it, you will be pleasantly suprized. If you want to read more about using smoke as cover scent, google scent smoker.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: Don Stokes on September 10, 2009, 08:26:00 AM
There's a lot of controlled burning in the pine plantations of the South. Foresters I know have told me of deer hopping the low flames to get behind the fire, and then going about their business. Other animals and birds to likewise. All part of Nature's big wheel.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: J-dog on September 10, 2009, 08:41:00 AM
Watch the wind - if they can smell smoke on your clothes they WILL smell you.

Second though in many places, indigs will sit in the smoke of a campfire before hunting? Something to ponder.

J
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 10, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
Googled "scent smoker"  and it is interesting. Stands to reason because smoke is very intrusive and lingers.

-Charlie
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: hill boy on September 10, 2009, 10:19:00 PM
probably depends on if the animal is a smoker or not.I just don't think they like to be couped up with smoke and the windows rolled up.  :D  Just kidden.I like to change when I get to camp.It's a cofindence thing.
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Post by: FrozenFew on September 10, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
I always go with the winds free theory, I have never ever in my life gave a darn about where I stored/wore or washed my hunting clothes. I am sure if you go to extreme lengths it may work, but really I couldn't be bothered with any measures.  I smoke in the stand all the time and throw the butts/ashes in a bottle.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: RAU on September 12, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
Woodsmoke is a real common smell in the country. Ive read about several that smoked there hunting clothes on purpose, the most well known guy I can think of right now, who recomends it in one of his books is Greg Miller. Hes killed some BIG, BIG bucks! Ive been meaning to do this for a while now but havent yet. If i was you I'd try it and let us all know.
Title: Re: Camo smelling like campfire?
Post by: Doug Treat on September 13, 2009, 12:23:00 AM
I will often smoke my clothes as I hunt (just did it today) and it seems that the more I do it, the closer I get to critters on the ground.  Last year, about 2 or 3 hrs. after intentionally smoking my clothes, I called in a bear and shot it (with a compound) at 3 yds.  It never smelled me-at 3 yds.  I have had deer down wind of me after smoking my clothes from 5-20 yds. multiple times.  I know they smell something because their nose goes up and they are probably smelling the smoke, but they didn't spook if I stayed still.  Here's my theory:  Since smoke is made of carbon, I think the carbon absorbs human odors while also acting as a cover scent (wood smoke smell) that is not threatening to animals.
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Post by: PAPA BEAR on September 13, 2009, 03:21:00 AM
ditto.....keep the wind in your favor and it dont matter what ya smell like....no matter how hard you try to be scent free it just aint gonna happen. if they smell ya they smell ya and yer screwed anyway so just stink 360 and go for it with the wind in your face
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Post by: Groundpounder on September 13, 2009, 06:53:00 AM
I think smoke is not offensive to deer especially if you hunt farms they are used to smelling burner barrels and deisel smoking tractors and such.native americans had to smell like smoke they had no problem taking game with there bows. Ive camped in the middle of the mountains with a fire and laying there trying to sleep you can hear everything walking the perimeter of your camp just out of sight, so the smoke makes them curious im sure the light from the fire itself does to. Deer are a curious animal by nature they check out strange smells just as often as theyll turn tale and run too. now im not suggesting you start smoking everything and using it for a cover scent but it probably wont hurt.Just one more quick story i heard one time . this one fellow swears he was chewing peach tobacco from georgia and he spit it out at the bottom of his stand and a deer came along and actually sniffed and chewed it. go figure
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Post by: Curveman on September 13, 2009, 07:04:00 AM
Too funny hill boy! I think starting a fire might even be a good thing if it gets rid of the smell of a bad breakfast if you know what I mean.    :biglaugh:
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Post by: sou-pawbowhunter on September 13, 2009, 09:04:00 AM
Just a thought, we sometimes smoke meat to "cure" it; could smoking ourselves by the campfire help to rid us of some of the bacteria that causes human odor?  I do believe in embracing the old ways when I can, but I can't help but think about why they work.
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Post by: James Wrenn on September 13, 2009, 10:40:00 AM
If you don't keep the wind in your face nothing matters anyway.Hunt the right wind and don't sweat the small stuff.jmo