Going from brass to tie-on nocks. What is the best material to use ?
String material, serving material, dental floss...BCY even offers a serving-sized spool of material just for tied-on nock sets, etc. Most any durable string will work. For materials like dental floss, add a drop or two of super glue.
Chad
I use dental floss exclusively. It's very thin and that way you can have as small or large as you want.
I don't glue when I'm done....I used the waxed floss, and all you need to do is burnish it to seal it good. A piece of thin leather, or even your finger/thumb will do it. Wrap them snug and whip finish, and they won't come loose.
I like B50.
Dental floss and artificial sinew will work. The lighter the material the better. I use 8125 or d97 most of the time.
I use No.4 nylon serving or B50,haven't used a brass nock for over 15 years.Started when I started shooting traditional,just looks more traditional to me.
Exactly what George said!! works great!! Jason
Working with a new bow or string, I use the brass nocks for adjusting until I'm sure I have it right, then tie on a strand of FF string or similar. Dental tape is also good. Easier to work with than the string-type dental floss for me.
Everyone, thanks for the tips.
Tried some braided nylon & superglue on one of my strings. Hard to get the right amount of glue. Too much & it comes out hard & difficult to twist up or down.
The dental floss (string not tape) worked great for building up string diameter to get nocks to fit the skinny string (8 strand D97 & 0.21 62 x).
Liked D97 from an old string for the nocks themselves worked the best. Easier to build up than thin dental floss & seemed softer than the braided nylon with glue.
The dental tape is a good idea, will give that a try.
George, found your previous nock tying post. That looks good too. Think that will work better than glue.
130# braided dacron works very well also and you can thread up and down the string to adjust also. Just pull tight and burn the ends and your done. A simple double over hand knot is all it takes. Mark
Just cotton thread and fletching glue is all I use. No knots needed, just a drop of glue at the approperate spot and start wrapping the thread. another drop of glue when the thread shows dry and another drop to finish 'er off. Quick and simple.
ART B
I'm with Mark. I use a heavier string and tie alternated half square knots. I will make it about four string widths wide. It will thread up and down the serving with a little effort.
use the over hand knots....one on each side alternating up the string.
then run a double over hand not at the end to finish. (not a square knot, but instead of once, go twice around then pull tight. Trim the tag ends I like to leave 1/8 or more (long is good)
Now burn the tag ends and rub them down so it melts into the knot. To short and you wont be able to melt them down enough to hold things together till you decide to glue it down. This will hold it together long enough for you to figure out where it needs to be...
THEN glue it down. If you want.
I dont have to glue my nocks. I trim more like 1/4" tags and melt them down into the nock, works very well and have found I dont have to glue at all.
Some of the adjusting is how tight you pull your half hitches. I prefer regular ole serving material not the fancy smancy stuff (not the plastic either, I forget who makes it) Nylon?. if I pull each knot TOO tight I cant twist up or down...if it's too loose it'll slide all over on ya.
I take 1 red strand of B50 and 2 strands of black B50 and twist them together. I then tie the nocking point on as shown it the TG How too section. I leave about a 1/4" and burn it down.
My strings are red and black and the red and black nocking point really looks good on the string.
I don't use any kind of glue since the string will stretch and the nocking point will have to be adjusted. Easy enough just twisting it up or down the string. Works just like a nut on a bolt. Twist it one way to go up and the other to go down.
You can get the same "nut on the bolt" effect with the method I use Pac. Give the glue about a minute to set and start screwing the nock up or down the serving. Once you got it where you want it just set with more glue. If for whatever reason the nock needs ajusting, I do that by twisting or untwisting one end or the other of my flemish twisted string. Seldom have to do that though.
How do you keep your nock from moving?
ART B
Art B
I keep the nock from moving by making sure I tie it tight enough. Funny thing is my daughter gets it right just about the first time every time and I have to retie a few times.
You talk about adjusting by twisting one end of the string or the other depending if you want to go up or down. I always twist from the top so a movable knock is needed. I can sure see the logic in your method and it makes sense. Never crossed my mind.
Yeah Pac, it does seem to take a few more tries at thing the older we get :( .
ART B