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Title: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Bowhunter4life on August 25, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
Wow, 64", 55# @ 28" (58# @ 29").  Not overly sure on the woods, but is beautiful.  I added a Selway slip-on which makes it rather heavy (which I like...), super smooth drawing and it really likes my 55/75 Gold Tips.  

Can't complain to this point, but we'll need some more time to do some fine tuning.

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Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: zwickeyman on August 26, 2009, 12:39:00 AM
Bill makes a great bow.
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: longbowben on August 26, 2009, 08:35:00 AM
Very nice find.Congrats
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Bill Howland on August 26, 2009, 09:57:00 AM
The wood combination in that Non-Typical is Bolivian Rosewood and Black African. Both are very heavy woods. Do I get a prize? Oh, wait I made that bow so I guess I'm disqualified.  :knothead:  
Good looking bow and in great shape for its age. Doesn't look like the previous owner shot it much. Congrats!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Gaff on August 26, 2009, 10:00:00 AM
boy, thats a sweeeet lookin bow!!!
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: amar911 on August 26, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
You are fortunate to find a used Non-Typical. That one is very attractive. Bill is one of the best bowyers ever and builds not only a good looking bow but also a good shooting bow. When you are ready to get rid of it, let me know!   ;)   I have a Non-Typical, but it is a significantly lower poundage bow and not as fancy in the wood department. Want to trade bows with me paying some money to boot?    :readit:  

I currently have a Brackenbury Peerless static tip recurve on order from Bill. I have shot the prototype, and it is incredible! I have it right now and hate to send it back to Bill, but off it must go soon. It may be (and probably is) the best Brack ever, and that is saying a whole lot. Bracks are among my favorites. With more than a dozen of them on my rack, they are the most numerous of any make in my collection of about 40 bows.

Allan
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Danny Rowan on August 26, 2009, 01:47:00 PM
Dang Allan, 40 bows,LOL, and I thought I was bad with 12 on the rack.

My favorite bow is my Brack Quest and I have another on order.

I shot a Non-typical that my bro had and it was a shooter, tried to steal it from him,LOL. I think he has since sold it as he was out of work.

Say, could you email me pics of the Peerless? Have not seen one. drowan11@yahoo.com

Danny
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: on August 26, 2009, 01:49:00 PM
I was gonna guess cocobolo and ebony......
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: bentpole on August 26, 2009, 03:45:00 PM
BEAUTY!
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: pete p on August 26, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
very nice....im guessing macassar and actionwood??
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Pinecone on August 26, 2009, 07:51:00 PM
Bill Howland does a fabulous job with his bows.  I have a Non-Typical with gorgeous spliced veneers on the limbs and a chunk of turquois embedded into the riser.  But the real story on Bill's bows are not just how they look, but how they shoot...which is just super!

Congrats on getting a heck of a nice bow.  Good luck with it this Fall!

Claudia
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: HATCHCHASER on August 26, 2009, 08:13:00 PM
That is one of the nicest bows I have ever shot.  The only reason I don't have one is the wait time.  If I had ordered one after he sent me the non-typical prototype then I would probably have 2 by now!  Great guy and in the top of the heap of bowyers in all departments.  What is this new recurve.  Oh no here I go again.  Just gonna have to bite the bullet and get on the list.  :scared:
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Brack Shooter 32 on August 26, 2009, 09:35:00 PM
Bill is the MAN !
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Chris Surtees on August 26, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Danny Rowan on August 26, 2009, 11:27:00 PM
HEY, that is the bow my bro had,very sweet shooter.
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Bowhunter4life on August 27, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
Yeah Danny, got it from Thomas who got it from Don.  It is really liking my 31" Goldtip 55/75 and 200 grain tips.  160 Snuffer w/long aluminum adaptor, and 125 grain Snuffer & 125 grain Wensel Woodsmans with 75 grain steel.  Am still getting a bit of porpoising that I need to figure out but it is stacking them in pretty good.
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Curtis Haden on August 27, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
That's a dandy bow, Jeff!  Congrats!!!
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: HATCHCHASER on August 30, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
What is the deal on the new bow design?  Is it a Quest riser with static tips?  :help:
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: amar911 on August 30, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
Hatchchaser,

The Peerless is no more of a Quest with static tip limbs than the Non-Typical is a Quest with longbow limbs. All three of them are very different bows, and all of them shoot great. Of course, they were all born in Bill Howland's head, so they are bound to have a family resemblance. If a picture paints a thousand words, then maybe I should just show you a few pictures of the prototype I have been shooting. As to what Bill did exactly with the design, I think you would get the best answer by asking him yourself. As to what I think of the bow, I can only tell you that after shooting the Peerless I told Bill to change the Non-Typical I had ordered a year and a half ago to a Peerless. If I had been on Bill's order book for two bows, I would have changed the first one to a Peerless and kept the second bow as a Non-Typical, because my present Non-Typical is one I picked up used while I had my new one on order, and I would really like one in my choice of poundage and materials -- I just like the Peerless better. Here are the pictures.

(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/amar911/Peerless4.jpg)

(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/amar911/Peerless6.jpg)

(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/amar911/Peerless2.jpg)

(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/amar911/Peerless3.jpg)

(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/amar911/Peerless1.jpg)

Hope this helps answer your question.

Allan
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: HATCHCHASER on August 31, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
Wow.  I shot the prototype non-typical and should have ordered one.  I'm just gonnna have to get on the waiting list.  Is it faster than the quest and quiet as the non-typical?  I really like static tip recurves.
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: Danny Rowan on August 31, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
Waldo,

The Peerless, according to Bill, is not as fast as a Quest but is quiet and stable. He designed it to be this way in the lower poundage as the Quest really shines at 55# and above he wanted a recurve that would perform well at the lower poundage and this is where the Peerless really shines. Hope I got that right,LOL. I am no techy but Bill is a master at what he does. Also the Peerless has a bit of deflex in the riser.

Danny
Title: Re: New to me Brack Non-Typical
Post by: amar911 on August 31, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
The Peerless could be as fast or faster than the Quest when shooting a 10 gpp arrow, and Bill originally intended to design it that way. He also wanted to have the stiffer, more stable static tips so that they would not twist as easily in low poundage bows. Because there is always a tradeoff between velocity and other factors, Bill decided to go for the combined advantages of accuracy, low noise, and stability at a slight sacrifice of velocity, but not much. What he got is almost a target bow that shoots exceptionally well in hunting and 3D situations. It also will accommodate longer draw lengths with a shorter bow compared to a Quest. You guys need to remember that Bill was an Olympic target archer, so he is prone to building bows that shoot very accurately, whether on the range or in the field. The Peerless does that and is still very fast. Both Danny and I have talked to Bill about the bow and its design; however, I have shot the bow a lot, and Danny will get that chance soon, but has not done so yet. He will almost certainly have a somewhat different impression of the bow after he has shot it. Just hearing about it does not do the bow justice. I think Danny will want a Peerless over a Quest even in a higher poundage bow. Danny's statements about the bow seem to be a reasonably accurate account of what Bill told me, but the bow needs to be shot to understand the impact of the design. Lance Coleman shot the Peerless prototype quite a bit before me, so he would definitely have some good input if he chose to give it.

The Peerless is outstanding, but there are many other great bows out there too. None of them are made by space aliens with intellects far beyond those of mere humans who created them from materials not available to us here on earth. People may like the particular brands and models of bows they own better than they would like a Peerless. I am not saying the Peerless is the best bow out there, any more than I am saying my Morrisons, Shrews, Blacktails, ACS CX, my other Brackenburys or the other bows on my rack are the best. I like them all. The Peerless just works well for me, and it is my favorite Brack bow of all, which is why I changed my order to get one.

Allan