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Title: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: dave19113 on August 23, 2009, 12:57:00 PM
Im looking to find response's from people shooting around a 56# recurve and around 600+ gr arrows, what type of velocities are being turned out. I crono'ed some arrows and I feel that they arn't flying as fast as they should be.....

Any feed back would be appriciated...


Thanks


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Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: swampthing on August 23, 2009, 04:23:00 PM
My 55# longbow would toss 715g approx 153 fps @29" draw.
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: LKH on August 23, 2009, 04:29:00 PM
Need more info.  Draw length is more important than weight.  My 26" draw with 56# will be very much different than your's if its 28".
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: HATCHCHASER on August 23, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
My 55@30" Black Swan recurve shot my 650 grain arrows at an average of 179 fps.  This was with an eight inch brace, wool silencers and wool yarn wrapped on the string where it touched the limbs.  It doesn't get much faster than that at 12 grains per pound.
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: ishoot4thrills on August 23, 2009, 05:31:00 PM
HATCHCHASER, you must also have a 30 inch draw, no? That is smoking an arrow that heavy! Are you fast enough to run to the target butt so as to blow out the flaming feathers before they ruin your arrow too?!?

  :eek:    :scared:    :notworthy:
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: Jim Wright on August 23, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
I recently put 628 gr. footed cedars through my Toelke "Chinook", 54# @29", they went 173 f.p.s., awhile back I chrono'd some 555 gr. Doug Firs at 183 f.p.s.
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: HATCHCHASER on August 23, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
That bow is quiet too.  And yes I do have a 30" draw.  That being said if I compare bows I try to do it with the same chrono on the same day.  That Black Swan is the fastest bow I have shot, but I am sure that a few others are right there with it.  To me the benefit of speed means you can shoot a heavier arrow.  :campfire:
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: dave19113 on August 24, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
My arrows are as follows:

2219 28" 785gr... 325 up front...138 fps
2018 28" 601gr... 200 up front...151 fps

when I do the math on energy they seem subpar.. But the penetration is amazing...Almost 20" where the same arrow with 125gr up front doesn't penetrate nearly that much. Plus the heavier ones fly like darts.

Should I not worry about energy ratings as much and just go with the performance?

Also, is there anything I can do to increase the speed but not changethe arrow?


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Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: Bjorn on August 24, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
Energy ratings are pretty meaningless for trad gear. You say you are happy with the penetration-go with that; and get out there and put some blood on the ground! Judgeing by your arrow length your draw is less than 28" and if that is the case I think you may be happier with the 600 gn arrow in the long run.
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: T-Bone on August 24, 2009, 04:40:00 PM
My 50 @ my 28" draw shoots a 625 grain 2016 148 fps.  Maybe your draw is not drawing the full 56#. Many people think my set up is not heavy enough for elk, but I know it works.
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: dave19113 on August 24, 2009, 04:41:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
Energy ratings are pretty meaningless for trad gear. You say you are happy with the penetration-go with that; and get out there and put some blood on the ground! Judgeing by your arrow length your draw is less than 28" and if that is the case I think you may be happier with the 600 gn arrow in the long run.
yes my draw length is 27.5.... both do shoot well and yes they are very accurate at 15-20 yards. The reason I ask is bc I dont want a combination that is fighting itself... IE the heavier arrow is going so slow that the extra weight isnt worth it.
Title: Re: Arrow Velocity......
Post by: George D. Stout on August 24, 2009, 05:41:00 PM
There is a point of diminishing returns, but no one has a black and white number to give you.  I generally go with what has worked for me over the past five decades.  Between 9 and 10 grains per pound of bow weight.  That combination has killed plenty of game over the decades, and most of those people had no idea how fast their bows were shooting.   Chronograph numbers instill doubt in people heads....better of just hunting and forget about some ambiguous number.