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Title: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
Yesterday we gathered in the local archery shop.  The owner, a longbow shooter himself, lets us shoot -after we clean up, sweep and mop the shop.  A very good deal for all concerned.
I put a golf tee in the block target, just the portion of the tee where the ball sets was visible-about 3/8 inch.  we stood back at took turns shooting at it. Genearlly after two shots, we had to remove arrows as the taget was obscured.  We were at about 12 yards or so.  A compund shooter with a $1200 rig entered and was getting some serving done and watched us.  He just shook his head at the accuracy of the bows.  He could not believe how consistent and accurate we were.  I believe a lot of wheelie shooters believe they are the only ones who can consistently shoot at dime sized targets with any degree of accuracy. Most of the tourneys we shoot here in NV, we stick shooters shoot in groups by ourselves and do not mix in with the other shooters-they just take too long!!!I have been shooting sticks since 1954, with some time in purgatory with wheels, but I just watch arrows fly for the enjoyment-can't see them with compounds these days.  cheers.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Dave Bulla on August 23, 2009, 01:10:00 PM
Yea, the accuracy is just as good, but it takes a little (or in my case a LOT) of practice to get it (if I ever do...) and that is part of the fun eh?

You are right about trad shooters usually sticking to themselves at shoots and we do shoot quicker when we get to a target but most of us make up that time looking for arrows behind the target    :rolleyes:      :D     So I think it all works out in the end.

Sure wish I could shoot good enough to have "minute of squirrel head" accuracy but as of yet, NOT.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: bigiron on August 23, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
used to shoot red stick on dots the size of nickels, dimes & silver dollars in the bow shop i worked at several years ago,to get people interested in trad. bows. get them dialed in with the right arrow & then trad them off for something else to tinker on. had 18yd. range & 20yd. Dart range. tons of fun & comrodery.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: GMMAT on August 23, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
If you think the accuracy is equal......enter a compound tournament.  There's no rule against it.

Traditional bow accuracy is FAR from being as random as I once thought.  But it doesn't sniff compound bow accuracy.  It doesn't have to.  Two different animals.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: kbetts on August 23, 2009, 06:44:00 PM
None of my hunting friends ever even shot a traditional bow until I started.  Now there are two, with more converts on the way.  Funny how they think it is so complicated.  Since I work on their compounds, they've seen the improvement in the way I shoot and it has them thinking.  
I shot a turkey this spring and explained that if I had to concentrate on my peep and picking a pin I would have missed.  Instead, I shot a walking turkey at 20 paces at the base of the neck.  Luck?  Maybe some, but I practiced hard and a lot of it in the dark to make concentration my focal point.  Now I'll go out and play on the range with my wheelie buddies and watch their expressions when I split their groups at 30yds.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Gehrke145 on August 23, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
GMMAT I agree, if some one can shoot at 20 what I do at 60 with my 3d wheely rig I would toss them a $100 bill!
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: JEFF B on August 23, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
hell we dont have a say as to who we shoot with well me anyway they always put me with wheel bows but i still have fun as i like to try and smash there arrows. plus i get to read my book while wating for them to  shoot.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: GMMAT on August 23, 2009, 07:16:00 PM
QuoteGMMAT I agree, if some one can shoot at 20 what I do at 60 with my 3d wheely rig I would toss them a $100 bill!
Never said anything like that (I didn't).

I know guys right here in NC I'd put up against ANY compound shooter.....if the wheelies shoot 60yds and the trad guys get to shoot 20yds.

We countin' 12's?

I'd take that bet, for $100.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Gehrke145 on August 23, 2009, 08:03:00 PM
I'm all in, when you coming out to Colorado to elk hunt will meat up.  I would love to see someone win that bet, now if you talking hunting.  The stick wins hands down, well at least for me!  I've gone to tons of shoots and can't remember one where any stick shooter could keep them in a 5 inch circle every time at 20, (10 arrow rounds) not saying knowone can do it just haven't seen any.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: GMMAT on August 23, 2009, 08:11:00 PM
Again...don't put words in my mouth...lol.  I never said I could.  I said I know guys here in NC I'd back in that bet.  5" circle?  I asked if you're counting 12's!....lol

But I'll be in CO, next fall.  Still love to meet...and we'll just, instead, have a drink-off.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Gehrke145 on August 23, 2009, 08:29:00 PM
lol deal, where you hunting in the state?
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: GMMAT on August 23, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
40mi. N of Erie.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Gehrke145 on August 23, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
No kidding, my dad hunts that counrty up there once in a while.  Some giant muleys
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: illianabowhntr67 on August 24, 2009, 05:56:00 PM
I took took up stickbows knowing I could not shoot 50yrd. groups like with my compound.It's kind a like the debate between flintlockers and inliners.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: SteveB on August 24, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
Kissing a dime at 12 yds should not be unusual.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: gsdmikko on August 25, 2009, 07:36:00 AM
movin to co. in january..(western)
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: vermonster13 on August 25, 2009, 08:10:00 AM
Looking for some easy money eh Jamie? lol
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: gsdmikko on August 25, 2009, 08:16:00 AM
Nah,, but I would take that bet..  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: stick_string on August 25, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
For me...shooting trad was not about the accuracy.  I knew that I would fall short of that apple tree...  :knothead:  

For me it was about getting closer than my wheelie buddies.  When they would stop at 30yards or even 20yards....I will get closer.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Don Stokes on August 25, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
I shot a compound for about 10 years, until I finally realized that in a close-range hunting situation the stick bow was superior, due to the simplicity and speed of handling. It's not just about accuracy. In the Eastern woods I hunt most of the time, a shot over 20 yards is rare. At that range and less, I'll take the stickbow every time.

Besides, they make much better walking sticks.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Gehrke145 on August 25, 2009, 10:58:00 AM
+1 Don stokes, for hunting I don't think you can beat a recurve or longbow.  As far a easy money, if you shoot that good you earned every penny   :bigsmyl: , I'm even headed into court for some overtime to cover it right now!
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: James Wrenn on August 25, 2009, 11:11:00 AM
Well the fact is for hunting we don't have to be very accurate.The shots are close and hitting in the 8 ring verses the 12 has the same end result in the woods.I like stickbows for hunting because I feel for the things I do they happen to be a little better and are more fun.When it comes to popping dimes at longer ranges I know which bow to shoot and it will have a cam on one end.Good thing I don't have to hit dimes to kill the things I shoot.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Saltydog on August 25, 2009, 11:27:00 AM
Count me in on that bet. Trad @ 20 and Wheels at 60 would be really interesting. The someone in the group I shoot 3d with almost every Sunday will win the Trad competition most of the time. It's a common sight to have 2 or 3 x-ring scores in the targets. The are some pretty good shots here in SW PA. In fact I saw a scorecard yesterday from a gal that shot a 288 (12 xs) challenging mountain course.
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: Don Stokes on August 25, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
Wow! My best ever with 12-rings was 275. Did it twice. And back then I could shoot dimes at 20 yards. Well, quarters anyhow.   :)
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: PAPA BEAR on August 25, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
ehhh....look at byron furgeson...lets see a wheelie shooter hit a baby aspirin in the air   :readit:    :readit:
Title: Re: Traditional accuracy and wheel bows
Post by: J-dog on August 25, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
Yeah small targets are good - I see when you take away that point of aim (the golf tee is the spot) that some trad shooters start to loose accuracy basically shooting at the whole target.

Wheelies are good but only after they have held it for 5 minutes!

Kiddin like my wheelie friends,

J