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Title: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: string bean on August 14, 2009, 09:21:00 AM
I've been at this traditional archery thing for several years but never had the opportunity to even see an animal when I have had the longbow or even be around people that have made kills with traditional equipment, so that leads me to these questions.  Do I have enough punch to get through whitetail and feral hogs in the wilds of East Texas shooting a 530gr arrow w/175gr Magnus II head coming out of a Marriah Chinook longbow 58# @ 28" and I draw about 26 3/4" -27"?
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: Prairie Drifter on August 14, 2009, 09:29:00 AM
Without a doubt. I shoot 47#@26" and have blown through deer w/ the same weight arrow .
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Post by: Curveman on August 14, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
No question.
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: string bean on August 14, 2009, 09:38:00 AM
LOL  I was just wondering cause them arrows sure are SLOW compared to my compound so I was wondering plus with all the talk on here about EFOC and people shootin over 200gr up front and stuff, I was getting worried.
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: Russ Clagett on August 14, 2009, 09:57:00 AM
At first I wondered too, but my first trad kill was a corsican ram, shot him with a 55 pound longbow, 525 grain arrow, and it passed through him like a lightning bolt. Never did find that arrow.

I think you're good.
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: WildmanSC on August 14, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
I'm shooting a 504 gr arrow out of a Marriah Thermal.  I have no doubts whatsoever that it will blow through a deer or hog.  The Thermal is very quick for a bow shooting a nearly 11 gr/pdf arrow.

Bill
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: on August 14, 2009, 10:55:00 AM
Try and remember that an awful lot of people have taken an awful lot of animals over the years with traditional equipment--everything from 35# on up, and with all kinds of arrows and broadheads too. Even before anybody ever heard of "FOC" or, for that matter, fiberglass, carbon, or FF strings.
Now, having said that, I think the underlying issue is feeling confident enough to shoot at an animal with traditional equipment. I think this is something that most former compound bow or gun hunters feel when they make the switch to stick and string. I'm sure that everyone will agree that the only way to get confident is to shoot, shoot,shoot. If your setup hits where you aim it, and has a reasonable amount of kinetic energy (sounds like you do), you will be FINE. And remember to BREATHE...................
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: George D. Stout on August 14, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
That setup worked very well prior to the compound bow coming on the scene.  We have to remember that archery history is possibly about 25,000 years old, not 35 years old.  You may have to deprogram yourself and then read some old magazines and books 8^).

That setup will kill anything in North America, and most of what's in Africa.
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on August 14, 2009, 11:39:00 AM
I killed this Antelope with Bob Lee Classic 46@28 with a Axis 500 @29.5 inches with 75 gr brass insert and 165 gr Zwicky
(http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz345/California-Bowhunter1965/IMG_3387.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: BRONZ on August 14, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq125/TEAM-TIMANO/PB070185.jpg)

ChekMate Falcon 45# @ 28".  GT 3555, 125 Snuffer SS, 50 gr brass insert.

You've got plenty of knockdown power.
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: string bean on August 14, 2009, 02:02:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by George D. Stout:
That setup worked very well prior to the compound bow coming on the scene.  We have to remember that archery history is possibly about 25,000 years old, not 35 years old.   You may have to deprogram yourself  and then read some old magazines and books 8^).

That setup will kill anything in North America, and most of what's in Africa.
I'm trying to   :banghead:     I'm going hunting next week and maybe the "curse" will be lifted.
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: BowHuntingFool on August 14, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
Sounds like you have an awesome set up and more than enough to get the job done! I wish I had a Chinook, took long of a wait for me!

Lets see some pics of your set up!
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: string bean on August 14, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BowHuntingFool:
Sounds like you have an awesome set up and more than enough to get the job done! I wish I had a Chinook, took long of a wait for me!

Lets see some pics of your set up!
I'll see if I can remember to get some pics this weekend and post 'em up for ya.  Now I've had this bow for 8 years if my math is correct. Got it for my 31st birthday and my 39th birthday was yesterday so 8 years it is.  LOL I had ric write "No. 31" on it so I could remember when I got it.  About all I can remember on wood choices is that I got red elm for the limbs.  I think the ex-wife put the vodoo curse on it when she bought it too.
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Post by: ron w on August 14, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
What Mr. G. Stout said......
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Post by: AdamH on August 14, 2009, 05:19:00 PM
"BRONZ" I love that photo !! Nice .....
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Post by: bigislandmark on August 14, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
Good Luck this weekend!

As stated above I believe you have more than enough "omph" to take game with your set up.

I've had pass throughs on feral goats and sheep with a recurve 43lbs@26". Pass throughs on pigs with my current bow; 51lbs@26" shooting 2117 in the 570 grain range.

I believe that shot placement is the key.

Aloha,

      Mark
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: amar911 on August 14, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
Absolutely, you have plenty of punch for most anything that walks on this continent. Just make sure your equipment is tuned and you are shooting straight and you will put those animals on the ground with no problem.

Allan
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: John3 on August 14, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
No doubt whatsoever... Make sure you have perfect arrow flight with a "scary" sharp broadhead.  Your set up will shoot through any deer like butter...


John III
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: beachbowhunter on August 14, 2009, 08:04:00 PM
KerPOW!
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: Ben Maher on August 14, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
no problem ! i use low 50# Hill style bows with 525gn cedars , dacron string and regulatly zing through our tough Aussie hogs....
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: string bean on August 14, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
Thanks for all the words of wisdom and encourgement. A few pics for BowHuntingFool.  Like I said all I can remember is that the limbs are red elm.  I hope you like 'em too cause it took about an hour on dial up!!  :banghead:  

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/stringbean123/1.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/stringbean123/2.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/stringbean123/3.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/stringbean123/4.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/stringbean123/5.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: BRONZ on August 15, 2009, 08:02:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by AdamH:
"BRONZ" I love that photo !! Nice .....
Thank you sir.

string bean, that's a nice look'n bow!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: string bean on August 15, 2009, 02:54:00 PM
Thanks.  It may not be the "best" bow out there but it's worth EVERY penny and well worth the wait!  Maybe one day I'll be able to afford another.  :pray:
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: billy shipp on August 15, 2009, 06:29:00 PM
string bean.....That is a very nice bow, and it has enough power to kill anything in North America....go kill something with it....birds, rabbits, squirrels, heck, anything.
All you need to do is kill some critters with it to get your confidence up.

Billy
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: doug77 on August 15, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
recovering form back surgery last I ended up useing a 43# BW PMA. I had good tuned arrows and got compelte pass throughs on 2 adult does. You will be fine.

doug77
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: string bean on August 15, 2009, 09:49:00 PM
Gotta call from my buddy today wanting me to come over and shoot so I packed up my target and reached in the closet to get my compound bow case, took a couple of steps, then put it back and grabbed the Chinook and out the door I went.  I know it's just a target but I was suprised(plesantly)when my arrows where sticking just as far in it as his(he shootin' 60# compound). It sure helped with the "deprogramming" if nothing else.  Seems I shoot better when I dont' think about it, just pick a spot, draw, anchor and release.  At times it seems like I'm almost there and other times like I ain't gonna make it.  Thanks again for the encouragement!!

I'm not getting to go hunting this weekend but sometime next week then it's on full tilt boogie!!
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: Stone Knife on August 16, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
Note the air bubbles, and yes there were two holes in this deer   :thumbsup:

  (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/420W/IM000299.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I have enough punch?
Post by: James Wrenn on August 16, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
If you have any trouble with that setup it is because of shooter error.Much more than enough bow and arrow weight for the things you want to hunt than is needed. jmo