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Title: and then I had this idea...
Post by: todd secker on August 12, 2009, 09:23:00 PM
I am out in Quantico, VA for about a month.  The last time I was out here there was a pretty good walk through archery range, so I thought I would bring my bow and do some shooting while I am out here.  Well, appearently the archery range had been torn out since I last saw it.

So I had this idea...
I'll just go out and find where it used to be and roam around stump shooting.  Sounds like fun, so out I head.  I found the old range and the stumps are out thick.  I spotted a nice 18 pointer and started in for the kill.  Bingo, dead stump.  Things are going pretty good.  Next stump, bingo.  Then I see this one little opening with an onery stump laying low.  The shot is good.  I had to kind of contort myself into retrieve my arrow, but I made it.  I retrieve my arrow and start the reverse contortion and all of my arrows dump on the ground.  A little smile and I start to retrieve the first of about a dozen arrows spread amongst the blowdown and I get hit by a bee that instantly makes my hand swell like a foot.  That one didn't feel any better than the next, and I realized I am covered in little angry bees.  I don't know what ya'll call these little bees out here, and I can't tell you what I called them.  I took off to running in no particular direction and I'll be darned if those little killers didn't follow me.  So now I am doing the hoochie coochie dance.  Well, they finally decided to leave me alone and I realize they still have my arrows.  I got close enough to the arrows to see that the bees had reconviened right on top of them.  Now what?

And then I had THIS idea...
I ran back to the truck to see what I could find.  I had a stocking hat, some shooting glasses, and some flyfishing waders.  Sounded like a plan.  I put on the stocking hat and glasses, but am trying to figure out what to do with waders.  I figured if they protected my legs from the water, then surely they would protect my arms from bees, and since my hand was swolen up like a foot, they should fit just fine.  So off I go.  I get there and yep, the bees are still flying.  I get to a closing in kind of distance and make a dash.  I get my foot-hand on almost every arrow and here comes the bees.  I take off.  There were still two flu-flus in there.  These are not ordinary flu-flus.  I have shot them every year for the past 12 years and haven't lost them.  Old arrows you say, no says I.  I'm going in.  I get a different angle because I could not reach them from my first mad dash.  In I charge.  I grab the arrows and the bees didn't seem to like that at all, so here I go.  Now if you can picture this, I am running full blast down a trail towards my truck.  I have on a stocking hat in August, a pair of shooting glasses, and waders on my arms, holding a bunch of arrows with a bunch of bees chasing me.  
Luckily I got back all of arrows and I only got stung twice.  I don't know what these little things are, but my hand and arm are still killing me and it happened about three hours ago.  Always an adventure....
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Post by: ron w on August 12, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
Oh, to have that on film.......priceless!!!!
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Post by: BCWV on August 12, 2009, 09:39:00 PM
Sounds like yellow jackets. They're bad this time of year up my way. I got into a nest myself last week mowing. Seems like the older I get the more they hurt.
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Post by: James Wrenn on August 12, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Must not have been yellow jackets or you would have left those arrows.  :goldtooth:
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Post by: GRINCH on August 12, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
Oh yea,those little suckers are relentless,would have loved to been watching.
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Post by: Shore08 on August 12, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
Perseverance! I love it. I would have loved to see it even more though  :D
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Post by: celticknot on August 12, 2009, 10:00:00 PM
Pictures
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Post by: cavscout on August 12, 2009, 10:06:00 PM
WOW i think that tops my fox bite story, way to hang in there and get your arrows back. to bad that wasnt on tape ,would have won funniest videos for sure
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Post by: KY..Rob on August 12, 2009, 10:29:00 PM
I'm glad your OK! But man that was hilarious  :biglaugh:  Like the rest, I wish that was on tape, instant $10.000 for sure, Can you say "Ninja Whompin action"

Rob..
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Post by: Hawkeye on August 12, 2009, 10:58:00 PM
If I'm ever down behind enemy lines, I pray you'll be the one coming in after me, Buddy!!  I'm not too sure about the wisdom of your plan, but I really respect your persistence!!!!

Maybe you discovered the reason they took down the archery range!    :saywhat:  

Train hard-  :thumbsup:

Daryl
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Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on August 12, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
Todd,

Sorry to hear about the bee stings. Those things stink. But on the bright side, the visual image you just gave me was great. No offense, but I will have to tease you about this in the future.   :biglaugh:
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Post by: Dave Bulla on August 12, 2009, 11:38:00 PM
Gotta be ground hornets or yellow jackets.  Heck, they might be two names for the same thing but I know the only thing worse is what we called "white face" hornets.  They make paper nests in trees or bushes and we'd bomb them with rocks.  When they came after you, you could see them incoming as little white dots and buddy, they didn't give up easily!

Once when trimming Christmas trees on a nursery I had one come out of a tree and head right between my eyes.  Rascal stung me on the bridge of my nose.  Only time I've ever had a reaction to a bee sting.  My face swelled up like Rocky Marciano and the boss took me to the hospital for an adrenaline shot.  I feel your pain bro!
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Post by: Bill Kissner on August 12, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
Reminds me of the time years ago when a guy  I was squirrel hunting with decided to shoot a hornets nest with his shotgun. He ended up with many more than 2 stings!   :knothead:  

These bee stings can be deadly to some people. Glad you got away without too much damage.
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Post by: boznarras on August 13, 2009, 12:42:00 AM
As a kid growing up on a little farm in Tennessee, I used to find yellowjacket nests while plowing with a tractor. They would swarm all around me. You can't get off a moving tractor, with a plow following, so I had to swat and duck for a bit when this would happen.
Guess I should have had some waders.
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Post by: Austin on August 13, 2009, 12:53:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by boznarras:
As a kid growing up on a little farm in Tennessee, I used to find yellowjacket nests while plowing with a tractor. They would swarm all around me. You can't get off a moving tractor, with a plow following, so I had to swat and duck for a bit when this would happen.
Guess I should have had some waders.
Lol, I've hit the nests while mowing brush with a gravely brush mower. Usually had a few stings before I saw the buggers. Then it was time to drop the handles and run, let it keep going and meet up with it 20 or 30 yards down through the woods.
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Post by: JDeanP on August 13, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
I feel your pain. I was once stung in the calf and had such a reaction as I couldn't walk on it for a day or so. Mild compared to some folk's reactions I know, but painful nonetheless. Relish those arrows, man.
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Post by: sparrow on August 13, 2009, 01:21:00 AM
First tree I ever cut for a selfbow everything went well until I dragged the first split over a dead log. I riled them up I guess but didn't see them until my second trip over the log when they were good and mad. Half a dozen stings later I managed to get to the truck. I named the first bow "Stinger"
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Post by: Walt Francis on August 13, 2009, 02:36:00 AM
Todd, that was great, it gave me a really good laugh.

Here is my encouter with some yellow jackets:

The summer of 1985, the year I quit coaching wrestling in Sacramento and move back to Idaho, my dad was building a bunch of jack fence with lodge pole.  My youngest brother Ed and I volunteered to become lumberjacks and do a selective cut on 40 acres that my dad had got the bid on in the local national forest.  One day I was felling the lodge pole while Ed was following behind trimming the limbs when a bunch of yellow jackets suddenly attacked me, before I could drop the chainsaw I had been stung several times.  I dropped the chainsaw and took off running waving my arms trying to out run the bees and keep from getting stung again: it didn't work.  After running to the west for seventy five yards I made a sharp left turn and headed for a little stream a hundred yards away.  As I approached the stream the bees were still stinging me so I dove into the deepest pool (about 18 inches deep) I saw and stayed there as long as I could hold my breath.  Suddenly, there was a big splash and Ed was lying in the creek next to me.  When I came up for the first gasp of air I got stung on the nose but that was the last time they got me.

Now, according to brother ED, here was what happened.  He is trimming branches when he suddenly sees the chainsaw flying through the air.  He looks up and sees me running away, slapping my face and swinging my hands at the dark cloud that surrounded me; He says it reminded him of an old cartoon he saw one Saturday morning when he was a kid.  Anyway, he thought it was funny and started laughing and followed me whishing he had a camera to catch the show.  It was funny to him until I went into the stream and the yellow jackets started looking for another target.  He was it.  When he got stung the first time he was about 30 yards from the stream and took off running, making a dive into the stream next to me.

We ended up staying in the stream for a while Ed pulled the stingers off my head and hands, and then encased my head and hands in mud.  By this time my eyes were swollen shut so he had to lead me to the truck then drove me to my Dad's place an hour away.  We stopped three different times for me to soak my head and hands in streams for about five minutes and put a new mud masks on.  By the time we arrived at dad's I was extremely neuseous but almost able to see a little out of one eye.  I spent the remainder of the day soaking in my dad's creek and applying mud masks.  

Early the next day, while it was still cold enough the yellow jackets shouldn't be moving yet, we went back for another couple of loads and determined the Yellow jackets had a ground nest at the base of the tree I had cut down.

To this day, every time Ed and I are together and he sees a bee he starts laughing, asking me if I remember the time we cutting lodge pole for dad.
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Post by: Killdeer on August 13, 2009, 05:14:00 AM
Great story, in the Pat McManus tradition!
Those arrows are gonna fly extra well after their "blessing" by the bees.

My story goes back to when I was about 18, and was moving an old woodpile for my dad. You see it coming, but I didn't! Something tickled my leg shortly after picking up a rotten log from the bottom of the pile. I swatted at it, and I felt it again...felt like chewing, or a thorn scraping back and forth in one spot. Then it burned!

I looked down, saw the dull red wasps, and screamed like a girl. This was accompanied by a leaping forward roll of about six feet, whereupon I launched myself back up and running. My Irish Setter gave a yelp behind me as I ran for the house. Dad saw me coming, a red cloud of anger trailing behind, and waved me toward the lake. No fool, he.

Straight down the path, onto the dock and straight off the end. I clung to a piling to keep myself under. Being primarily an underwater swimmer, I could stay down a long time. I still had one or two of the things on me when I came back up. Twenty-two stings. Oh, and one on poor Copper's nose.

They were nothing compared to the bathtub of ice-cube laden water that my mother made me sit in. Or the itching afterward! I still have a few scars from scratching them.

Everybody assumes yellowjackets, but there are more ground-dwelling wasp species.

The paper-nest-building bald hornets, on the other hand, and bumblebees have never bothered me. I leave the hornets to their work, as they seemed intent on hunting flies around the barns I worked in. Leading trail rides back, they would fly out to the horses and chase the flies, but leave us alone. I never molested their nests. I stumbled into an underground bumblebee nest once, they came flying out around me. They didn't land on me or chase me, though, and I have never received any sting from them.

Thanks for the story, it is good that you can laugh about it so soon after the fact. Glad you were limited to a couple of stings.
Killdeer
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Post by: leatherneck on August 13, 2009, 06:30:00 AM
Todd, I want to thank you for the good laugh this early in the morning. I'm still smiling.
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Post by: BobW on August 13, 2009, 09:24:00 AM
better you than me - I'm alergic....
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Post by: Stinger on August 13, 2009, 09:29:00 AM
Be careful about wandering around any of the ranges on Quantico (which is pretty much all of the woods there) with a bow in hand without going to range control first.  Also you should stop by the game warden hut and talk with them.  As innocent as what you are doing, if you get caught out there you can get in real trouble.
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Post by: John Krause on August 13, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
hehehehe.....

Everyone has a good bee story just like everyone has a good rat story  :)

Nice visual image  :)  time for some counter surveillance on 'em   :)
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Post by: George D. Stout on August 13, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
Bees are part of growing-up.  Anyone who lived in or near the woods has bee stories to tell.  

As Killy said, the white faced hornets were more interested in flies than us, and my dad taught us to respect them;  peaceful coexistence.  I had one take a fly off my arm once...amazing.
Now Yellow Jackets, that's a whole nother' story.
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Post by: amicus on August 13, 2009, 10:17:00 AM
Those are great story's. Thanks guys. I really enjoyed them.

Have a great day

Gilbert
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Post by: Blasterjdh on August 13, 2009, 10:24:00 AM
I really enjoyed the stories - Thanks Folks
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Post by: Brad_Gentry on August 13, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
Waders on your arms... I bet those Marines at the base would be proud of you ability to "adapt and overcome"! Try not to get yourself killed out there, we got some serious hunting to do when you get back.
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Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on August 13, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
Dang! There's coffee on my keyboard!   :biglaugh:  

I'd bet my last dollar you found yourself a yellow jacket nest. My worst woodland adventure EVER involved a nest of those little buggers. I seriously feel your pain. Get a meat tenderizer (like papaya enzyme) and sprinkle it on the sting site. That should help.
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Post by: SELFBOW19953 on August 13, 2009, 10:58:00 AM
Quantico, shades, stocking cap, waders, and a bow.  Sure sounds like "up against the wall and spread'em" time to me!!!  What Stinger said!!! In these times, that's an invitation for big trouble.

Back when I was in the Air Force and stationed in Thailand (1972-74), I took a picture of camo'd, unmarked C-130, from the front, with the ramp in the back down.  I walked about 50 feet and had the pleasure of hearing "up against the wall and spread'em".  It's no fun looking down the bore of several M-16s.  Seems the plane belonged to some company, Air America, I think it was.  And would you believe, they wanted my film?  Was very careful what I photographed after that.
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Post by: Whip on August 13, 2009, 11:22:00 AM
You're a brave, brave man Todd!  

There are a few other adjectives that come to mind as well, but I'll just leave it at brave!  :p    :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
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Post by: Dustin Waters on August 13, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
I was building a deck off the back of my house last fall.  During the staging process of putting out the lines and marking post locations, I sunk an old arrow in one of their nests and kept walking.  The guy that was tying the lines to the arrows walked right into a pissed off cloud of them.  He got stung five times in about ten seconds and we called it a day until I could find something to kill them.  He got home and got stung three more times by them as they had clung to his clothes and rode home with him.  Relentless is the only word to describe them
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Post by: straitera on August 13, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
When a yellow jacket stung the back of my thumb, the swelling didn't stop as I watched & felt it crawl up my arm from the inside like a herd of ants. In one hour it swelled like a cartoon up to my neck. Kept epinephrine around till they discontinued it. Any ideas appreciated. Good post. Funny unless you're allergic.
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Post by: todd secker on August 13, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
Great stories guys.  At least I know I am in good company here. Turns out there were a couple of more stings than I realized, but live I will to shoot again and do more stupid things, so stay tuned.  I will be out here three more weeks....
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Post by: Killdeer on August 13, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
Guess what I found last week!

Nymphal ticks.
Just something else to look forward to, Todd.
Killdeer   :goldtooth:
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Post by: John Krause on August 13, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
You gonna tell 'em about the phone or do I?   :)
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Post by: Killdeer on August 13, 2009, 03:12:00 PM
Phone, Todd?

  :saywhat:
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Post by: Brad_Gentry on August 13, 2009, 03:46:00 PM
This ought to be good...
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Post by: todd secker on August 13, 2009, 04:11:00 PM
Dang John, I thought we were buddies.  OK, while I am in disclosure mode, I forgot to mention that just after typing my little story, I decided to get some excersise in the pool.  After my swim, while drying off, I realized that my cell phone was in my pocket.  So now I'm bee-stung and without a phone 700 miles from home.  God doith have a sence of humor.
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Post by: Aeronut on August 13, 2009, 04:30:00 PM
I can imagine the sight of you tearing through the forest in your improvised 'bee suit'.

We have some bees around here that are midway in size between honeybees and bumblebees.  They are black with a white stripe around their body and nest underground.  Dad and I had a run in with them on a fishing trip one time and I have never seen a more relentless bee.  I'll take a wasp over them any day.

Dennis
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Post by: Don Stokes on August 13, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
My hunting buddy was repairing broken pipes in his hunting cabin and pulled off a board over a nest of yellow jackets. He had a hammer in his hand when one hit his face, and his instinctive reaction was to swat at it, forgetting the hammer. When he reached the refuge of his truck, and killed the ones that followed him in, he realized he was all bloody. Smacking yourself in the face with a hammer is overkill for a yellow jacket!!