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Title: 3 to 1 Head that is already sharp..
Post by: frassettor on August 03, 2009, 07:42:00 PM: Somedays I really have trouble shooting the big wide 2 blade heads. It all me, I tried mounting them every which way, but somehow I get more easily destracted some days then others. So I was thinking about getting a more of a 3 to 1 ratio head. Mabey a Snuffer, Phantom ect....

Any recomendations?? :confused:
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Post by: fireball31 on August 03, 2009, 07:45:00 PM: Phantom's are super sharp out of the pack. I think the snuffers pack more of wallop and are incredibly easy to sharpen. You won't go wrong with either. But if I'm not mistaken the snuffer isn't a 3 to 1 ratio. Maybe take a look at the woodsmans
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Post by: James Wrenn on August 03, 2009, 08:06:00 PM: Steelforce makes some that will fit the bill as well.
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Post by: hunt it on August 03, 2009, 08:11:00 PM: New STOS comes good an sharp.
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Post by: SlowBowinMO on August 03, 2009, 08:27:00 PM: A Grizzly sharpened by Ron at KME! :D
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Post by: trapperDave on August 04, 2009, 12:33:00 AM: steelforce!
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Post by: Bjorn on August 04, 2009, 01:20:00 AM: STOS fills the bill. I don't mind sharpening a little now and again; but that is not where it is at for me.
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Post by: Recurve50 LBS on August 04, 2009, 01:43:00 AM: A Grizzly sharpened by Ron at KME!
I second that one!
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Post by: johnnyk71 on August 04, 2009, 02:23:00 AM: i like Razorcaps a lot.
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on August 04, 2009, 02:59:00 AM: G'day Frassettor,

If you're having difficulty shooting other heads, the problem could well be weak arrow spine, and may not be fixed by changing broadheads; see, once I had weak arrows that wore STOS heads (3:1), and nothing I could do could get those arrows to fly true. Do your field-point arrows fly okay? Even with a weak arrow, they sometimes fly just fine, but it's when you stick a broadhead on that the weak arrow wanders way off target.

All the best,

Ben
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Post by: frassettor on August 04, 2009, 07:32:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Ben Kleinig:
G'day Frassettor,

If you're having difficulty shooting other heads, the problem could well be weak arrow spine, and may not be fixed by changing broadheads; see, once I had weak arrows that wore STOS heads (3:1), and nothing I could do could get those arrows to fly true. Do your field-point arrows fly okay? Even with a weak arrow, they sometimes fly just fine, but it's when you stick a broadhead on that the weak arrow wanders way off target.

All the best,

Ben
My fieldpoints fly great. It seems like that when I get drawn back and try concentrating my spot I still see the head in my periferel vision and that is what sometimes throws me off. Just was wondering if I should try more of a longer head (3 to 1) instead.
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Post by: Charlie Lamb on August 04, 2009, 07:39:00 AM: Try mounting the broadhead with the blade vertical... that way they'll all look the same.

Shoot your broadheads more. If you are bothered by the "peripheral look" of the broadhead, then you need to get use to it regardless of which head you use.
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Post by: Steertalker on August 04, 2009, 08:55:00 AM: Quote
A Grizzly sharpened by Ron at KME!
I third that!!! ;) :D ;)
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Post by: frassettor on August 04, 2009, 09:12:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Try mounting the broadhead with the blade vertical... that way they'll all look the same.

Shoot your broadheads more. If you are bothered by the "peripheral look" of the broadhead, then you need to get use to it regardless of which head you use.
Thanks Charlie....That makes sense! Seems like some days I can "tune them out" and others I end up digging them out of trees! :D
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Post by: Bill Carlsen on August 04, 2009, 09:51:00 AM: I had some difficulty with some broadheads shooting well consistently and then tried an elevated rest. Long story short, I can shoot any broadhead I want off the elevated rest.

I would also add that shooting bh is really the ultimate test of whether or not your arrow spine is perfect. If your arrow spine is either borderline one way or the other shooting bhs consistently well can be the result of that. Try bare shaft shooting one of your shafts and see what happens.
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Post by: Norseman on August 04, 2009, 10:31:00 AM: Grizzly sharpened by Ron at KME

Normally I draw the broadhead, which is threaded onto the arrow shaft across a lightly stretched out rubberband to see how sharp it is..it should cut the band.

With Ron sharpening the Grizzly, I can cut the band simply by dragging just the broadhead and the steel insert across the band....NO SHAFT. That is how sharp these are.
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Post by: JimB on August 04, 2009, 10:38:00 AM: I had Ron do a dozen of those for me also.You couldn't ask for more.Just be careful with them.
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Post by: samr on August 04, 2009, 10:52:00 AM: ok who or what is "Ron at KME"
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Post by: groyce on August 04, 2009, 12:44:00 PM: Abowyer -- Brown Bear 3 to 1 single bevel
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Post by: Bjorn on August 04, 2009, 01:33:00 PM: The Brown Bear from ACS requires nothing in the way of sharpening by the archer.
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Post by: tradtusker on August 04, 2009, 04:07:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SlowBowinMO:
A Grizzly sharpened by Ron at KME! :D
yip you wont find anything sharper :thumbsup:
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Post by: Steertalker on August 05, 2009, 08:15:00 AM: samr,

We're talking about Ron Swartz, owner of KME Sharpeners. He manufactures and sells BH and knife sharpeners. Also, he provides a sharpening service for those who have difficulting sharpening their own BH's or knives. He's a great guy, loves to help people and sales a fantastic prodoct. I use his BH sharpener to sharpen my 190 gr Grizzly El Grandes. When I'm done with them...there sharper than a Silver Flame....and that it pretty sharp!

I believe he is a sponser here...http://www.kmesharp.com

Brett
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Post by: Scarne on August 05, 2009, 08:56:00 AM: A Grizzly sharpened by Ron at KME!
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Post by: samr on August 05, 2009, 01:27:00 PM: Thanks for the info. I looked at his site and it is very intriguing. Just when you think you have all the toys you need...
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Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on August 05, 2009, 01:55:00 PM: Tuskers from Ron @ KME shot clean through my bear this spring and marked up the bait barrel as well! That was with my "weenie" 50 lb. hybrid!