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Title: Need some help with BH's
Post by: xtrema312 on July 17, 2009, 10:23:00 PM
I need some help with selecting broad heads.  I plan to use a 125-140'ish head.  These will be white tail only hunting.  I have used some Magnus two blade non-vented screw in 125 some years ago in my compound and they flew very well, but bent tips on pass through shots in the ground and bone hits.  I didn't have much luck sharpening them with the broad head sharpening tool I had at the time so I didn't use them long because the penetration was not great.  Before that years ago I used bear razor heads, but that was a long time ago.  I have been shooting Muzzy heads for years, and I don't know much about cut on contacts and sharpening them.

I have been looking at snuffers, WW, and Stingers.

What are the best heads for cost, great forgiving flight and easy to sharpen?

What is the best way for a newbie to sharpen them?  I have a Gatco Edge Mate with diamond set down to fine.  Can I sharpen broad heads with that?
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: SlowBowinMO on July 18, 2009, 01:42:00 AM
Based on what you've posted the Stinger would be my suggestion for you.  They fly fantastic and come sharp out of the pack.

I've not used your sharpener, but Stingers won't need more than a touch up after practice, so I'd expect your Gatco to be up to the job.

Hope this helps, Tim
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: shortstroke 91 on July 18, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
I'd second the stingers but the old standard Magnus can be modified by making them a chisel point similar to the Bear razorheads and tip curl is almost a non issue. If you decide to go with the Magnus and have a hard time sharpening them send them to me and I'll get them hair poppin' razor sharp and send them right back.
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: hunt it on July 18, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
Get some Muzzy Phantoms they are similar to the Stingers mentioned above but superior in my opinion. The Phantoms come in a 125gr and a 200gr I believe. They will resharpen real easy on any of the carbide draw sharpeners with only a few passes. You can shoot them 2 bladed or add the bleeders for four blades.
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on July 18, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
If you're looking for a 125-grain screw-in that's sharp out of the package, I'd definitely go with Muzzy Phantoms. A lot of folks use them, and I haven't heard the long list of stories of them bending and breaking that I've seen with other similar broadheads.

If you're looking for something glue-on that you'll sharpen yourself, will fly great and that you'll never have to worry about bending or breaking, Ace Standards fit the bill exceptionally well.
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: xtrema312 on July 18, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Thanks for the info.  I was actually to the bow shop near my house today getting some arrows fletched, and I was looking at the Muzzy Phantoms.  Those, the Hell Razor, Steel Force and the G5 were the only cut on contacts I noticed.  I have always been a big Muzzy fan.  Maybe I will give them a try.  The price was right on them, but I didn't know how they stacked up.  Do they fly as good or better than the others?  How are the G5's?  They look like they could be a durable head with a strong point.
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: amar911 on July 19, 2009, 12:17:00 AM
I like the Stingers too. Just my 2 cents. Nothing wrong with the Phantoms at all.

Allan
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: khardrunner on July 19, 2009, 08:11:00 AM
I second the Ace Standards...solid heads and pretty easy to sharpen. I use an 8 inch grobet file I picked up for like 10-12 bucks. It only takes about 5-10 minutes to get one shaveable.
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: Bill Carlsen on July 19, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
The original Muzzy heads were designed by John Mussachia, Sr., who was a trad bowhunter. Many trad bowhunters use them quite sucessfully. I have thought of using them myself, but i have so many others that I can't quite bring myself to do it. Having said that, after over 50 years at this bowhunting thing I have settled on Razorcaps and Phantoms as my two go to heads. I do have a dozen old Pearson  Switchblades that I plan to take on a Maine bear hunt in Sept. if they are shooting well for me with my current shafts.
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: J-dog on July 20, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
Used muzzys (regular) 130s/145s no problem getting penetration on deer sized animals. I was shooting 60# limbs on my tip back then.

J
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: tarponnut on July 20, 2009, 02:26:00 PM
Stingers and Phantoms are hunting sharp out of the package and both sharpen easily.
Title: Re: Need some help with BH's
Post by: George D. Stout on July 20, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
You need to learn to sharpen heads no matter what you buy.  It's not a horrible task, actually it is part of bowhunting.  And even sharp-out-of-the-package heads, will need touched up occasionally.   Find yourself an old timer who knows how and spend some quality time with them.