Post by: SpankyNeal on July 16, 2009, 11:27:00 PM
Regards...Ken
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Post by: SpankyNeal on July 17, 2009, 12:02:00 AM
Thanks...Ken
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Post by: Arwin on July 17, 2009, 12:09:00 AM
Offensive: yes
Knowing that the "real moron" bought the whole store in hopes to bag a deer: Priceless.
Post by: Arwin on July 17, 2009, 12:13:00 AM
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Originally posted by vermonster13:LMAO even more!!!! :knothead: NO DOUBT Vermonster!!!! That would have been the real way it's gonna be. I completely stopped going to a local "archery" shop because they are all about x-bows now and don't give a crap about anything else. It's a shame cause they carry a few Thundersticks and used to have a decent trad section. All has given way to those pieces of crap. I'm ranting but you can only guess how I feel about those P.O.S.!
It's all about the Benjamins. They know where the cash flow is for their business and that's who they market to. Surprised he wasn't carrying a x-bow.
Post by: SpankyNeal on July 17, 2009, 12:28:00 AM
Ken
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on July 17, 2009, 01:15:00 AM
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Originally posted by SpankyNeal:I've been saying that about the traditional archery for a long time: that we should be able to promote our pastime without trashing others. Unfortunatley, a lot of us haven't quite figured that out yet. Do I find the commerical in question offensive? No more than a lot of what I hear and read on a daily basis from fellow traditional archers referring to other user groups.
I know advertising is geared towards particular audiences, but you don't have to trash others to get a point across!
Ken
Just food for thought.
Post by: Brian Krebs on July 17, 2009, 01:17:00 AM
It was insulting.
It was just a commercial for Cabelas showing what a well outfitted person looks like next to one that is not outfitted.
Stupid.
Post by: PAPA BEAR on July 17, 2009, 01:20:00 AM
Post by: Brian Krebs on July 17, 2009, 01:26:00 AM
The real bumbling fool is the person(s) that made this commercial !!!
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Post by: Curveman on July 17, 2009, 06:37:00 AM
Sincerely,
Steve
Post by: SteveB on July 17, 2009, 07:10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Jason R. Wesbrock:Was my first thought actually.
QuoteOriginally posted by SpankyNeal:I've been saying that about the traditional archery for a long time: that we should be able to promote our pastime without trashing others. Unfortunatley, a lot of us haven't quite figured that out yet. Do I find the commerical in question offensive? No more than a lot of what I hear and read on a daily basis from fellow traditional archers referring to other user groups.
I know advertising is geared towards particular audiences, but you don't have to trash others to get a point across!
Ken
Just food for thought. [/b]
Steve
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Post by: mike hall on July 17, 2009, 08:06:00 AM
Cabelas marketing team must be a bunch of clueless young guns who don't understand what it takes to hunt traditional.
Fools!
Post by: Don Stokes on July 17, 2009, 08:06:00 AM
Sticks and stones may break my bones...
Yes, call them, write them, e-mail them if it makes you feel better. However, keep in mind that to the marketing mindset, ANYTHING that gets your attention means success to them. The more obnoxious a commercial is, the more likely we are to remember it. They know that. They bank on it. Think of Enzyte and "Smilin' Bob", and Billy Mays, may he rest in peace!
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Post by: Mike Burch on July 17, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
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Originally posted by Jason R. Wesbrock:Exactly!.....Lighten up fellas!
QuoteOriginally posted by SpankyNeal:I've been saying that about the traditional archery for a long time: that we should be able to promote our pastime without trashing others. Unfortunatley, a lot of us haven't quite figured that out yet. Do I find the commerical in question offensive? No more than a lot of what I hear and read on a daily basis from fellow traditional archers referring to other user groups.
I know advertising is geared towards particular audiences, but you don't have to trash others to get a point across!
Ken
Just food for thought. [/b]
Mike
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Post by: BadKarma on July 17, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
Thank you for telling us of your concerns about the television commercial, which is being pulled off the air as of this morning.
We certainly did not intend to offend anyone in the hunting world and apologize for that. It was not our intention to depict traditional bowhunters in a bad light nor pit one segment of the outdoor sporting world against another.
Our attempt at a light-hearted message apparently missed the target and we are moving quickly to correct it.
Again, thank you for letting us know your feelings.
Sincerely,
Joe
Joe Arterburn
Corporate Communications Manager
Cabela's Inc.
One Cabela Drive
Sidney, NE 69160
Post by: shortstroke 91 on July 17, 2009, 11:42:00 AM
Brandon,
Thank you for telling us of your concerns about the television commercial, which is being pulled off the air as of this morning.
We certainly did not intend to offend anyone in the hunting world and apologize for that. It was not our intention to depict traditional bowhunters in a bad light nor pit one segment of the outdoor sporting world against another.
Our attempt at a light-hearted message apparently missed the target and we are moving quickly to correct it.
Again, thank you for letting us know your feelings.
Sincerely,
Joe
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Post by: adirondack46r on July 17, 2009, 12:04:00 PM
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Originally posted by SpankyNeal:Actually, if you hang around here long enough you will see plenty of it. Most of it is subtle, but it's there. I agree with the "pick your battles" philosophy as mentioned above, and on this one I say just roll with the punch.
It just ticks me off that here we are as traditionalists, not bashing others chosen equipment...
By the way, I live in Tennessee. Have you ever seen anyone from Tennessee depicted in a poor light? 'nuf said?
Let's get on with the business of helping each other be better hunters and shooters of trad equipment.
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Post by: SpankyNeal on July 17, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Regards...Ken
Kenneth,
Thank you for telling us of your concerns about the television commercial, which is being pulled off the air as of this morning.
We certainly did not intend to offend anyone in the hunting world and apologize for that. It was not our intention to depict traditional bowhunters in a bad light nor pit one segment of the outdoor sporting world against another.
Our attempt at a light-hearted message apparently missed the target and we are moving quickly to correct it.
Again, thank you for letting us know your feelings.
Sincerely,
Joe
Joe Arterburn
Corporate Communications Manager
Cabela's Inc.
One Cabela Drive
Sidney, NE 69160
[email protected]
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:14 PM
To: Joe Arterburn
Subject: Television Commercial
Dear Mr. Arterburn,
I have just viewed your commercial on the Outdoor Channel that depicts an archer with all of the latest gear as being an intelligent, up to date hunter, and compares him to another archer carrying a recurve bow and a back quiver, dressed in red long johns, as being a bumbling idiot! Being a traditional bowhunter who hunts with nothing but longbows, wood arrows, and a back quiver, I take extreme offense to the image you are portraying of traditional archers! I have seen many more bumbling idiots in the woods carrying all the latest equipment than I ever have of those who choose traditional equipment in my 40+ years of bowhunting! In your corporate core values statement you list "Respect for individuals". I find this advertisement a violation of that statement, and totally disrespectful to myself, and all traditional archers. You may cancel my Cabelas Club membership effective immediately, and I will not consider Cabelas for any of my outdoor needs as long as this advertisement continues to air!
Respectfully,
Kenneth Neal
Post by: FerretWYO on July 17, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
I know that this can give a bad impression of those of us who choose to hunt and shoot trad archery equipment. It is good that they see that and have taken actions to remove it from the air. I dont think that it is a detrimental mistake on the part of cabelas though.
Cant we all just get along lol.
Post by: PAPA BEAR on July 17, 2009, 01:01:00 PM
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Post by: Bill Kissner on July 17, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
On the other hand though,I have never thought talking about compound shooters in a derogatory tone helps us promote our way. We come across as arrogant elitists and should keep it down.
Post by: leatherneck on July 17, 2009, 01:49:00 PM
Now, lets get back to talking traditional. Stump shooting anyone?
Post by: Chris Wilson on July 17, 2009, 01:53:00 PM
Not really, but I guess I've got thicker skin than most.
Post by: Killdeer on July 17, 2009, 01:59:00 PM
Looks like the situation is being corrected, it is never good when one promotes oneself by dissing another.
I have been a high-dollar customer of Cabela's, and I would hate to cut myself off from their goods. Their eight-man Alaskan Guide tent has served me without problems for many years, and I look to Cabela's to supply high-quality equipment combined with excellent customer service.
I hope that they remember people like me when they produce their next ad campaign. My nose needs no more tweaking.
Killdeer
Post by: Lefty on July 17, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
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Originally posted by Forrest Creature 1:FC1, I didn't know you are the official spokesman for TradGang, now. OK to voice your opinion, but I personnally didn't find it offensive, so don't include us all in your statement. I happen to like Cabelas and do alot of shopping there and their customer service is extremely outstanding.
I just got off the phone with a Rep from that store and told them that the Trag Gang is not happy with the ad that was ran. 1-800-237-4444 is a contact where you can leave a message for the ad people at that store.Please call and tell them how you feel.
I took the commercial in jest. Lighten up. In this PC perfect world, people get this panties in a bunch way to easy. You should only be offended if you really do bumble around half drunk in the woods, like that poor fool did. Then maybe you got a claim for personal slander. Maybe they were just making fun of hunters in flannel.
So, easy a caveman could do it! Damn Geico! Now there is a cause to undertake!
Post by: richbat on July 17, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
Post by: tarponnut on July 17, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
Socrates
(not really)
Cabelas ad dept. needs to have a little forethought next time.
Post by: adirondack46r on July 17, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
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Originally posted by tarponnut:I'm offended that you're offended that I'm offended! Hey wait, I forgot... I'm not offended. Nevermind.
It always amazes me when someone is offended by someone being offended.
Post by: bama on July 17, 2009, 03:08:00 PM
Post by: pseman on July 17, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
Come on guys, the commercial was supposed to make folks feel the need to buy more stuff, not bash traditional hunting. If 3 Rivers ran a similar(but reversed) ad, I'll bet most here would think it was funny, not offensive.
If anything, I think writing Cabelas demanding they pull the ad because you are "offended" makes us look much worse than a funny TV commercial.
JMO
Post by: ChuckC on July 17, 2009, 03:20:00 PM
I am distressed by one thing. In this day and age very few people know anything of substance about the wild. Face it, many have no idea where our food comes from or what happens to it prior to the store where they purchase it.
What they see on TV and in the computer is the ONLY thing that many know, truthful or not. What they see can and does, on a daily basis, affect and mould their minds, their ideas, and their knowledge.
Yes sir, seeing that ad can most certainly cause or back up some folks to believe exactly what was portrayed. . . if you are carrying one of those antique bows, you are a slob, stupid, not able enough to own and carry a "real" bow, and likely drunk as all hunters are.
Connotations can be amplified from there. That guy is a bumbling fool, he carries a stick bow, which is bad, everybody knows that. Stick bows are associated with fools and inept folks and thus they are inept weapons. Why are they not illegal.
If we do NOT voice up against this, whether it was simply a slip with not enough forethought given, or a callous act against Trad folks, then we allow this indoctrination to stand.
To be honest, simply pulling the ad is not near enough. People viewed this already. A broadcast apology and explanation seems in order.
If you truly believe it doesn't matter, you'd better wake up. It has been happening all around us, regarding a lot of different topics,for years. You don't have to prove anything. All you have to do is say it loud enough and long enough.
ChuckC
Post by: Curveman on July 17, 2009, 03:26:00 PM
I disagree with those who feel we shouldn't have bothered to write. I participated in a letter writing campaign that depicted a Jeep helping a deer safely past hunters by having it play dead on the bumper. Remember that one? No? It was pulled immediately as well.
I have thick skin too and did not cry any tears over that ad or this one. In fact I thought the Jeep ad was funny and very clever. All of that is beside the point. I wrote because there are forces and groups who are trying to win "hearts and minds." The efforts can be subtle in trying to shape a viewpoint. Jokes that perpetuate stereotypes. Clever commercials. There ARE groups trying to ban bowhunting as cruel etc. Starting by getting people to view traditional equipment as being more likely to wound an animal might be an avenue that would give them some traction etc. No? I heard on two hunts that no one should hunt with traditional archery as: "you'll have the deer looking like a pincushion before it dies." This, from compound hunters! (I was happy to prove them wrong). :D No? Think about how some states have already banned some firearms by succeeding in having them viewed by the voters as: “too, too, dangerous.” Maybe my thoughts are farfetched but I’d write in protest on principle anyway and did.
Oh! I took the time to thank Cabela's for pulling the ad and stated that their responsiveness has me back in their camp. I think that's important too.
Post by: vermonster13 on July 17, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
Very true and don't forget it folks. They didn't have to pull the ad and they did show their support for hunting. People makes mistakes the difference is in who owns up to them. Cabelas is one of the good guys.
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on July 17, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
I didn’t see where anyone said folks shouldn’t write emails in protest. If they did say that, I apologize for missing it. I think the point some were making is that if we don’t like other user groups bashing us, we should probably stop bashing them. It cuts both ways.
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Originally posted by Curveman:Well done. But is that really any different than what a lot of traditional bowhunters say about compound users? I think Bill Kissner said it best:
I heard on two hunts that no one should hunt with traditional archery as: "you'll have the deer looking like a pincushion before it dies." This, from hunters! (I was happy to prove them wrong).
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On the other hand though, I have never thought talking about compound shooters in a derogatory tone helps us promote our way. We come across as arrogant elitists and should keep it down.
Post by: Bob G on July 17, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
Post by: ethan on July 17, 2009, 05:14:00 PM
But as far as the bashing goes, I've got a few hunting buddies who hunt with compounds and I have to say I usually take alot more than I give.
Ethan
Post by: Old York on July 17, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
Cabela's...I ordered some red long-johns.
Now I'm gonna git me a beer, it's F®íÐÅ¥ !!!!
:bigsmyl: :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
Post by: Mo. Huntin on July 17, 2009, 05:41:00 PM
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Post by: Old York on July 17, 2009, 05:47:00 PM
Hard times bringin' out the worst.
'Ere's to ya, mate!
Post by: SteveB on July 17, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
Darn deer keep running off with them. :D
Steve
Post by: Mo. Huntin on July 17, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: pdk25 on July 17, 2009, 06:18:00 PM
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Originally posted by TradBowyer:Apparently they do care, and realized the money they would potentially lose. Congrats to those who complained and got the commercial removed.
Umm. guys lets think about this rationally. On this site, I have read where newly designed camo is a waste of money, gps is non-traditional, don't even mention crossbows or compound bows, scouting cameras are for lazy "cheating" hunters who don't want to get out and do footwork, we buy everything we need off of the little guy etc, etc, etc...so what exactly would you shop at cabelas for anyway?....so some of you are getting your panties in a twist over cabelas putting out an add, writing them about how we are done shopping at your facility....and really we might make up 10% of Cabelas sales...do you really think they care??? LOL..life is too short to get all upset about everything that comes down the pike.
Post by: heydeerman on July 17, 2009, 06:21:00 PM
A short while ago I saw a commercial for Cabelas that showed 2 bowhunters. One was carrying a compound and had all the latest gadgets with your latest hunting gear. He appeared to be in control and ready to hunt. The other was carrying an old recurve and wearing red long johns and stumbling through the woods. He appeared to be an idiot.
The reason I am writing about this commercial is because I am a traditional archer and bowhunter. I take offence that you, a hunting outfitter depicted a traditional bowhunter as an idiot. I have been a customer of Cabelas for over a decade spending several hundred dollars at your Wheeling location last year. I feel you owe the traditional archery community an apology for the way you portrayed them. I have no intentions of making another purchase from Cabelas until one is publicly made. I would also suggest you fire the those involved in making a commercial like that. If you have no intentions of pulling this commercial and issuing a public apology then you may remove my name from your mailing list as I will not be using your services and products any longer.
I don't know if you noticed but you sell several different lines of traditional bows and equipment in your latest Archery catalog.
Sincerely,
Jim Suttinger
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Post by: TonyW on July 17, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
Not likely to throw any of that new-fangled money that way, and Lord knows I'm too backward to use that there plastic money to buy from them folk.
Post by: Tilbilly on July 17, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
The point is that they publicly mocked ANY niche involved in hunting or the outdoors in general, when that is their buisness. And the public doesn't need to be fed any more negative images than they already get in general.
Glad they saw the light.
Post by: Curveman on July 17, 2009, 07:46:00 PM
I felt it was at least implied in the threads that said we should just take a joke or that letter writing was just more publicity/they'd just see the ad as effective/our letters wouldn't matter. Just recently the Obama admin. tried to have its Customs ban the importation of knives that could be opened with one hand. It was the HUGE amount of mail that generated that they are now revising that position. Anyone who sits on their arse and doesn't write is REALLY hurting us! I know some politicians and they tell me that getting letters has an ENORMOUS influence on them. They figure that if they get one letter then 1,00 people agree but were too complacent to write! I agree completely with what Ted Nugent said: "If you reps don't know your name, then you're not doing your job to protect our rights!" (gist).
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Originally posted by leatherneck:sounds good.
It apperars Cabelas saw the mistake(by way of your emails) and took action to make it right. We can't ask them to do any more than that. Thanks for doing the right thing Cabelas.
Now, lets get back to talking traditional. Stump shooting anyone?
Post by: SpankyNeal on July 17, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
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Post by: Don Thomas on July 17, 2009, 11:44:00 PM
Post by: tradtusker on July 17, 2009, 11:56:00 PM
good job to those that put the time in to correct it
Post by: Broken Arrow 1 on July 17, 2009, 11:57:00 PM
Post by: jeff w on July 18, 2009, 08:25:00 AM
As far as the ad, it never really bothered me---in fact, I think some of the characteristics of the traditional hunter were model after myself or some of my friends. Anyway, I knew it was an attempt at 'humor' in order to sell a product. No big deal--I generally dislike 90% of all the hunting ads anyway. It is good to see they responded to those that raised their concerns.
Post by: rkmnt2 on July 18, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
I do understand that it's all about the big bucks and the advertising guys are doing a job to get the most for the investor. And it would seem that the gadget guys would spend more than the trad guys. I gotta agree with Broken Arrow though....I'm WAY more in debt now than I was then! There's just a smaller population of "us". That's one of the attractions for me.
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on July 18, 2009, 10:33:00 AM
1. lemme be as clear as i can to all ...
PLEASE DO NOT CLAIM TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE OF TRAD GANG, OR USE THE NAME "TRAD GANG" IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM UNLESS YOU HAVE DIRECT PERMISSION FROM TERRY GREEN - there are no exceptions.
2. please be respectful in your posting, trad gang will not tolerate public bashing of any kind - there are other online venues for that kinda nonsense. thank you.
3. imho, cabela inc, knew pretty well what they were doing with their ad, and they got the response they at least somewhat expected.
thanks to all you good folks that took cabela inc. to task and let them know that it was NOT ok to depict trad bowhunters to the general public in such a demeaning manner.
Post by: TonyW on July 18, 2009, 10:45:00 AM
I never stepped foot in Cabellas, but whenever I weave through my local Bass Pro, I always gawk at the crowd around the archery counter. Nothing much for me to buy, 99.999% vanes or bolt-on doodads, but they do have nice wool socks.
At least the Cabella's ad has alerted the crowd not to shoot their crossbows at every sound they hear or shadow they see when they venture off the asphalt and concrete.
Post by: leatherneck on July 18, 2009, 01:27:00 PM
Sorry, I figured this post needed some lightning up. :bigsmyl:
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 18, 2009, 03:22:00 PM
We should be able to take it a bit too.
I don't care for Cabelas, which is hard because we have one 20 minutes from my house. I will say they are a great supporter of Michigan Bowhunters Association. I walked through the archery section last month, and it was more crossbow than archery. Oh well.
I suppose what I'm saying is that if Cabelas, and all of the high tech bowhunters see me as a bumbling idiot, well, I just don't care. I know what I am.
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on July 18, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
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Originally posted by Roger Norris 2:i agree. i could care less how cabela inc. plays the marketing game ... but this was never about you and me - the target demographic for that tv ad wasn't the trad community - there's no need to belittle trad bowhunting/archery in the eyes of the ignorant. the negative publicity trad bowhunting dealt by cabela inc, or anyone else, should never go unresponded. i wanna see the young'uns, our legacy, respect trad and not be influenced by negative media.
Of all the posts on here, the one that landed home the best for me was Jason Westbrock's. We spend a ton of time laughing at the latest gadget, camo, lazer sight, etc.
We should be able to take it a bit too. ....
Post by: R.W. on July 18, 2009, 09:45:00 PM
Tell them to remove your name from their mailing lists, and cancel any order that you can.
Inform them that you will take YOUR custom, elsewhere, where you are not seen as a bumbling fool.
And tell them that YOU will personally let others know that doing business with Cabela's DOES NOTHING for traditional archery, and hunting with tradtional gear.
Vote with you wallet, that is what will really hurt them.
Post by: LAR43 on July 18, 2009, 10:31:00 PM
I just did as R.W. mentioned. A wallet vote gets their attention immediately!.
Larry
Post by: TSP on July 19, 2009, 11:05:00 AM
Many who come here think of traditional archery (yes, I'll use that term and do it proudly) as not unlike a very good friend. All I can say is that if someone is backstabbing your very good friend on a commercial scale just to make money and it isn't offensive to you, then just maybe that 'very good friend' isn't so important to you after all. For those who think otherwise and take steps in such situations, traditional archery and its followers thank you.
Time to go find that footage, assess the level of backstabbing and contact the company accordingly.
Post by: Strutter on July 19, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
Rob
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Allan
Post by: Colt on July 19, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
They all just seem like a bunch of arrogant jerks because they think their equipment is sooooooo much better than anybody else's and because of that, they always seem to think they are better hunters.
A couple of these yahoos I know only drink imported beer and wine. I mean c'mon, that's just not right.
Post by: ChuckC on July 19, 2009, 12:04:00 PM
1). We need to thicken our skin and not get too hot.
2). We do NOT need to giggle and say "oh well." We DO need to (and did) voice out about the discourtesy. It can (and did... thank Cabelas) get the point across.
3) That done, we need to get on with life, stay vigilant, and not worry or fret more than necessary.
4) We need to include this knowledge and thought in our talk here and elsewhere. What's good for the goose """".
Note to those who think we over reacted.... if that "bumbling idiot" in the commercial were portrayed as Hispanic, or black, or a woman or (insert your favorite group) do you think they would have even gone and aired it ?
We are people, just like them. Fourty years ago that sort of advertisement was the norm. Today, people need to consider more angles before they do this.
ChuckC
Post by: Curveman on July 19, 2009, 12:15:00 PM
Joe,
Thank you for your prompt and sensitive response. I am back in Cabela’s camp and encouraging my tradbow friends to join me!
Thanks again,
Steve
For me this wasn't an issue of needing a thicker skin. I wasn't hurt at all by the ad but I didn't want the image of tradbow hunters to be tarnished even in the minds of new hunters.
Post by: Don Thomas on July 19, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
Post by: Rob DiStefano on July 19, 2009, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: Arrowhead80 on July 19, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
Post by: Lenny Stankowitz on July 20, 2009, 04:26:00 AM
Could the same not be said for those who deliberately alienate others based on their legal hunting methods?
Post by: Bowspirit on July 20, 2009, 04:35:00 AM
Post by: Don Thomas on July 20, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: stick_string on July 20, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
Was not offended, My mother in law worked for them and they do ALOT for hunting/conservation, etc........
They employ alot of folks and do alot for the community and conservation. Good on you guys for getting it pulled.
Post by: Lenny Stankowitz on July 20, 2009, 09:36:00 AM
I wasn't referring to crossbows but that's ok.
Everyone has their ox to gore, too bad they alienate 10% of the "market" with each one.
Post by: D. Devall on July 20, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
Post by: leatherneck on July 20, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Colt:Lets not lower ourselves to the darkside. We are better men/women than that. These are statements I expect from them,not us. Lets not lose the respect for ourselves as traditional archers and give the others the satisfaction.
Is there anybody out there that hunts with a Mathew's bow, not a yuppy?
They all just seem like a bunch of arrogant jerks because they think their equipment is sooooooo much better than anybody else's and because of that, they always seem to think they are better hunters.
A couple of these yahoos I know only drink imported beer and wine. I mean c'mon, that's just not right.
BTW- I drink expensive wine. Please don't call me a yuppy. :bigsmyl:
Post by: non-typical on July 20, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
my wine wasn't expensive till they upgraded the carton.
Post by: leatherneck on July 20, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
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Originally posted by non-typical::biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Mike,
my wine wasn't expensive till they upgraded the carton.
Thanks, I needed that today!
Post by: Colt on July 20, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
Excuse me, I guess I'm just not,mmmmm, what's the word..........sophisticated.
There is not ONE guy I hunt with who would rather crack open a bottle wine than a Bud. Not lowering myself to the darkside, just stating a fact.
Please don't call me a dumb redneck. :bigsmyl:
Post by: leatherneck on July 20, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
Just don't want to give them any more ammo. We(me,you, and all other trad gangers) are too good a people for that.
Maybe one day me,you, and your Budweiser can share a campfire and I'll introduce you to some fine wine and some fine shine! :campfire: Take care.
Mike
Post by: Colt on July 20, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
My Grandad (mom's dad) used to make 'shine. Guess where they are from. That's right. West Virginia. No kiddin'.
Actually, I don't drink Bud, just my buddies. I like the beer from a local brewery from Chippewa Falls,Wisconsin called Leinenkugel's. Beer of the northwoods. Stuff is GREAT!!!!!
You be careful working in that prison.
Post by: leatherneck on July 20, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
I've heard of that beer before. I'd like to try it one day.
Well, heading to the farm to watch some deer. Looking to see if "big ten" is still lurking. Later all.
Mike
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on July 20, 2009, 03:36:00 PM
I don't know guys, I kinda thought it was funny!
Post by: wollelybugger on July 20, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
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Post by: joevan125 on July 20, 2009, 10:40:00 PM
Post by: Killdeer on July 20, 2009, 10:40:00 PM
Killdeer
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Post by: Shinken on July 20, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
I don't see many boxes of arrows or longbow tubes in that load....
Shoot straight, Shinken
Post by: Killdeer on July 21, 2009, 05:36:00 AM
:bigsmyl: