Come a certain time of year.....how many of you switch to 100% BH's for all of your shooting? I used to do that with the compound, but I'm honestly asking myself if it's necessary, now. I know my setup is in tune. I had to really learn how to do it (tuning). I have confidence I have the right length arrow; right tip weight and proper spine.
Is there really a reson to shoot ALL BH's, IF you're confident they're impacting with your FP's?
I plan to make up a dozen arrows next week, and I'll order more BH's if there's a valid reason. I just can't think of one.
Funny that you just posted this... I switched to ONLY broadhead shooting last week. Yes, about every July I do this. I want NO issues come September 15th with my arrow flight or my "sight picture".
For years until I started to shoot in a indoor trad league I only shoot broadheads year round.
John III
Sight picture is a good point.
Thanks.
I'm not aligning my BH's with my fletchings, but I am going to orient them the same way for my sight picture. I suppose a constant would trump switching back and forth.
Thanks, again.
I do it about mid August.It`s a confidence thing.
I KNOW everything is tuned...I know my broadheads and field points land in the same spot...and I know it isn`t necessary. But I still do it.
Confidence is as important as my broadhead being as sharp as possible.
I would never shoot field points on anything,wheels or trad,but targets are :eek: :scared: :readit: priced,so I usually keep a couple BHs handy and screw them into the SAME arrows I shoot with all year long.I'll do this periodically throught the year,but usually 3-5 times a week during September.
I want no surprises come gameday. :archer:
imo, if yer broadhead arrows fly well, there's no consuming need to shoot them all the time, nor is it at all practical. case in point is roving in the woods or out in the fileds, where you want judos and not broadheads.
i have no problem setting up my carbons to fly the same for both types of heads.
i shoot almost every day at 30, 20 and 15 yards with judos into a suspended rug "matt".
at least once a month i'll switch heads to woodsmans, just to confirm i'm still point on with the same arrows (currently, 605 grains total weight).
In colo our Colo Bow hunters asso has a BIG jamboree the third week end of July (you should come). After that I shoot almost only BH's. My gear is tuned so that does not make a difference but looking down the shaft of a arrow and seeing a BH is differnet than seeing a field tip...I ony have so much RAM in my brain I don't want to be distracted by seeing something I'm not used to seeing when the moment comes.... so I shoot BH's after mid July.
Joe
I can honestly say that come early september, I will take 6-12 shoots with the best spinned arrows I have and that's it. I've been doing it for 25+ years and haven't had any real problems. I thing practice with BH's is over rated. The only thing that matters to me is practice and form.
I shoot my wooden arrows with broadheads enough that I KNOW they are flying good and impacting where they should. Then I put'em up and sharpen them up until hunting season. In the next couple of weeks I pull out the 3-d target and pretty much shoot at it only.
QuoteOriginally posted by joe ashton:
I... My gear is tuned so that does not make a difference but looking down the shaft of a arrow and seeing a BH is differnet than seeing a field tip...I ony have so much ROOM in my brain I don't want to be distracted by seeing something I'm not used to seeing when the moment comes....
i guess i'm lucky that even though i see the shaft 'n' head in my peripheral vision, all i'm totally focused on the 'spot'. the kinda head stuck on the shaft don't matter at all.
I hardly ever use FP's for Practice Not because there is any differance --just got BH's on all my arrows
Not me. I do practice with broadheads in a sand pit. They hit exactly the same as field points or judos (I do keep the head weight the same on all three)
I shoot field tips at my 3D targets because broadheads tear them up too bad. Since they fly the same I can't see any reason to do that. But actually most of my practice in the fall is stumping with a judo.
Never see the arrow or BH at all. Total concentration instead on the "spot".
Glue-on BH's require spin testing and balancing so they fly straight. Where the BH lines up is where it's shot.
Stumpshoot judos all year at varying distances to 40 yards. Maybe (6) BH's before the season to make sure they're on.
I am positive my broadheads shoot well from my hunting bow before I will hunt with them but this only takes a shot or 2. After that, as long as my broadhead arrows spin well there is no reason they shouldn't shoot well. All of my other shooting is with field points. At 20 yards my broadhead arrows ans field point arrows shoot the same.
I tune by bareshafting then fletch up and shoot broadheads to check my tune. I use FP's from there on out but do shoot broadheads occasionally to just be sure everything is well.. I hit the same with both, a month or so before season I will shoot all my broadhead tipped arrows to be sure nothing has changed, then I sharpen them up and keep those arrows as my huntin arrows, I will use diffrent arrows with fp to practice from there on out..
I shoot all of the broadheads that go in my quiver to hunt before the hunt. I start shooting them a month or so in advance. I learned the hard way that just because they weigh the same does not mean they shoot the same. I shoot my "hunters" a few times to check flight, resharpen them and then shoot other BH's to practice until the season arrives.
Always have, always will!! It's better to know for sure then to not know for sure (possibly a mind game). From what I can tell they fly exactly the same but I still switch It up a month before the season.
My first shot of the day everytime I shoot is with my present hunting setup. Broadhead and all.
As others have said I don`t see the head when I shoot and have more than once shot a broadhead in a stump instead of a judo when out walking by not paying attention to the arrow I pulled out.
I do almost all my practice with a judo. But the first shot of the day is a snuffer.RC
My tuninig is made in the way I get the BHs and field points to hit the same spot.So I practice with field points and from time to time I check my Blades,but I am really confident on their accuracy.
My broadheads fly the same as my field points so I shoot field points and keep the broadheads sharp in the quiver for hunting.
I shoot every arrow before I sharpen the heads.After that I only shoot them hunting.If tuned right there is no reason to wear out targets shooting broadheads all the time.All my arrows shoot the same after tuned.
What James Wtenn said.
Several years ago I experimented with the different sight picture of each to see if it mattered with my shooting style. It does not.
I shoot a bow strictly to hunt, yet only practice with field points.
I shoot the arrows tipped with broadheads once to see if they are o.k., then sharpen them and put them away.
I don't shoot as much now to protect my shoulders, but when the season is closer I'll shoot every other day or so. I practice with field points to make sure my muscles are in tune, and start shooting my broadheads a couple of weeks or so before the season to make sure they're right, and to get the sight picture down. My best practice, though, is with judos in the woods. I haven't had a problem with switching between points.
JC's mention of shooting a stump with a broadhead reminded me of my ex, who shot a cow elk with a blunt. She didn't realize it until after the shot. She missed with the first arrow, then pulled the blunt by mistake while focusing on the animal. She made a perfect shot with the blunt, of course!
I will the week before season starts.
i usually shoot a combination of field tips and BH's year round then when i get close to going on a hunt i will shoot mostly BH's
I like RC's method of using a broadhead for the first shot every shooting session im going to start doing that.
interesting a lot of guys shoot judo's a lot i find there is a noticeable difference in impact point after 30yards when shooting a judo always lower due to the drag, guest it makes no difference as most people dont hunt much further that 30 yards anyway.
interesting thread :thumbsup:
yes, i also find a drag difference with judos at 30 yards and out. there is probably some difference at the shorter distances as well, but arrow speed hides it.
overall, if i do the right thing with regards to form and release, shot placement is the same for me with both judos and woodsmans at 10 to 25 yards. same arrow, just a change of points (all points are 250 grains, and the insert is 100 grain brass = 350 grains up front).
i can get the judos and woodsmans to impact the same at 30+ yards if i drop the judo weight down by 40 to 50 grains - however, this makes for different judo flight at the shorter distances, probably due to change in arrow weight and foc.
all this may seem too anal for some folks, but once i get the numbers sorted out all i've gotta do is build my arrows the same and the rest is up to my shooting. so for me it's worth putting in the testing time since once it's all sussed out i'm good to go and i like no-brainer stuff that lets me concentrate on hunting/shooting.
yes sir , mine is ready...now! :)
Built a pit 2 weeks ago.Didn't realize how much I missed that HISS OF DEATH from my snuffer but will continue to shoot all 3 broadheads,feildpoints,and judo's.
I shoot judos all year until Hunting season. Once I put a broadhead on my arrow, I test out the flight and if I'm satisfied, its gets honed up and in the quiver.
After the season, I retouch up all heads and leave them alone. If my arrows are flying perfect with broadheads, I'm not going to practice with them prior to hunting season.
Mainly all year long, I have two arrows in quiver that are field tipped, I use them too but the ride the quiver as practice arrows when hunting.
But to answer your question I shoot BHds 99.99% of the time.
J
I shoot all my BH-tipped hunting shafts a few times a couple of weeks before the season, and that's about it. As far as I'm concerned, "practice" is all about form, release, and mental concentration, and I don't care much about what's on the end of the arrow. I don't spend much time futzing around with my tackle either. I know where potential problems lie: it's between my own ears, not with my equipment. Don
You are right Don,also because with our Robertsons we don't have many problem to fine tune them,is it true?
I agree, Cacciatore! (Great handle, BTW) Dick's bows are very forgiving in terms of minor variations in arrow weight, spine, etc., which is no doubt why I've learned not to spend too much time worrying about it. Good bow design is about more than blasting an arrow through a chronograph! Don
I shoot my broadheads just often enough to confirm that they're flying with my field points (which is always the case with proper tuning) and then I don't mess with them. What type of head is on my arrows doesn't effect my shooting, so I don't see the need to constantly practice with broadheads.
On another note:
QuoteGood bow design is about more than blasting an arrow through a chronograph!
[/b]Excellent point! The compound industry finally figured that out a long time ago. Maybe one of these days, our side of the world will figure it out as well.