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Title: traditional ?
Post by: Cyrille on June 29, 2009, 11:27:00 PM
I have on order a Black Widow TD PMA bow recurve
Being as it is fiberglass lamenated with dyana flight string and cut past center.Can this bow still be considered traditional?
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Post by: Mo. Huntin on June 29, 2009, 11:42:00 PM
No send it to me as soon as it arrives and I will give you a board bow.
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Post by: nightowl1 on June 30, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
i think these questions are becoming traditional haha

its up to you bud
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Post by: deadpool on June 30, 2009, 02:44:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by nightowl1:
i think these questions are becoming traditional haha

its up to you bud
hahahahahah that was a good one!
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Post by: L. E. Carroll on June 30, 2009, 03:28:00 AM
My defination for traditional in this modern time that we are living in has changed somewhat. With the modern advances we have come to enjoy as in fiberglass and carbon in some of the Great Bows that we are enjoying shooting and hunting with, is as follows:

Only has 1 string, hand held, and increases in draw weight with every inch it's pulled back.

A "shooting device" that requires any of the following: pullies, stabilizers, cables, needs a strap around your wrist [to help draw it]with a trigger release attached, or gun stock attached.
Would not by my defination to be considered traditional.

I'm sure there are others who may disagree[ however, I hope not many]   :wavey:
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Post by: vtmtnman on June 30, 2009, 05:48:00 AM
It's no less trad then the carbon arrows or the aluminum ILF riser/carbon foam limb bows others use.Trad is trad,meaning no wheels.That's it.
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Post by: Guru on June 30, 2009, 05:59:00 AM
Why would you ask that question on a Trad bowhunting forum where probably 90% of the guys here are shooting equipment as described?
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Post by: flinthead on June 30, 2009, 07:12:00 AM
I shoot with friends that shoot self bows , Trad Tech Titan bows with elevated rest , and everything in between. My 3 piece Crow Creek Longbow may not appear trad to some.I shoot what I like , suggest you do the same . Flinthead
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Post by: sj_lutz on June 30, 2009, 07:34:00 AM
IMHO you answered your own question in your post when you mentioned the word "recurve".
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on June 30, 2009, 07:46:00 AM
if it's just a stick 'n' string, it's trad.  period.  let's all move on ....
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Post by: Cyrille on June 30, 2009, 08:00:00 AM
Thanks I believe I got the point! Pun intended!
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Post by: GMMAT on June 30, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
I'm really new to this, but I've come to realize I'm just a "bowhunter".....who'll take advantages if they suit me/my needs.  Heck with the classification.
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Post by: Sticks2117 on June 30, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
Who cares can we stop all this arguing and just shoot
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Post by: b.glass on June 30, 2009, 09:13:00 AM
Cyrille, I assume you are fairly new to traditional archery. Your question appears to have raised some hackles. Please don't take offense. Compound shooters would call a fiberglass recurve and carbon arrow setup "primitive". We call a self bow and cane arrows primitive. But it's all traditional to me and evidently to most on this site. I guess you can say there are degrees? But it does'nt really matter. Basicly, just NO wheels.

Bona
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Post by: Smallwood on June 30, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
on another note, you have just ordered imo one of the best , top of the line traditional bows that are made. you should be very happy with it and it should last you a lifetime if taken care of.
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Post by: frassettor on June 30, 2009, 10:02:00 AM
Traditional.....

A bent stick with a feathered shaft..
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Post by: Don Stokes on June 30, 2009, 10:43:00 AM
There's no such thing as "traditional" archery. The lines have been blurred completely. It's all in our minds...
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on June 30, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
What do you think? That's all that matters.
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Post by: Vabowman on June 30, 2009, 11:57:00 AM
I know little to nothing about trad shooting, but from what I gather, if doesn't have wheels,it's trad...now there seems to be a difference between Trad and Prim right? Prim is like self bows, wooden arrows, real feather fletching, knapped heads and such??
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Post by: dakota tim on June 30, 2009, 12:23:00 PM
I agree with Rob D. - if it's stick & string - it's trad.  I also think it's defined by each individual to a point.  For me, It's a bare longbow with wood arrows.  Many would say you have to shoot wood to be trad.  Some would say I'm not trad because I have glass in my bow.

I have a friend that has been shooting carbons with vanes (please stop).  I just shot last week with a friend that shoots a recurve with an arrow rest.  He also shoots cans with vanes.  If you tried to say they weren't trad, you'd probably find your nose stinging and leaking a red substance.  Every time I'm tempted to say, "Hey why don't you get rid of that rest" I think of Paul Schafer.  I sure wouldn't have said it to him!
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Post by: L. E. Carroll on June 30, 2009, 07:08:00 PM
Sticks2117
Am I missing something??? I can't find any arguing. Just peoples opinions being espressed.

Gene  :wavey:
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Post by: Guru on June 30, 2009, 07:16:00 PM
I was thinking the same thing Gene
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Post by: Adirondack Bowman on June 30, 2009, 08:00:00 PM
?
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Post by: High Knob on June 30, 2009, 09:25:00 PM
I have often wondered where you draw the line. I guess that depends on the individual.
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Post by: buckeye_hunter on July 01, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
Just hunt ethically within state regulations.

The equiptment and what you decide to call it is up to you.

This next part is heresy to many, but....

Crossbows have been around since midieval times. Some would argue that is a heck of a lot of tradition in its own right.

Have fun, be safe and pass that bow and hunting on to a kid someday!

Then see what he calls it.

-Charlie
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Post by: Cyrille on July 02, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
I completly agree with that forth line in the above post. Cross bows have been around since midieval times so they too should be considered traditional, Personally I wouldn't use one even in compeitive target shooting, but neither would I fault anyone who does. I may or may not be around when my three year oldgrandson "inherets" my archery equiment but to know what he calls it would be interesting to learn.
It's suppose to arrive tomorrow!
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Post by: George D. Stout on July 03, 2009, 09:22:00 AM
Cyrille,  the term wasn't used to describe our equipment until the comopound bow came along.  So if we are looking in the proper context, it means anything except compound bows.

That being said, it is the most corrupted term in the sport right now.  No two people can say what it means, so it is virtually useless in proper conversation.  They were using fiberglass in the very early 1950's...actually right after WWII.

If you look at a bow, and it has a string joining the two ends, and no other accouterments to help draw it...like wheels or cables...than you have a conventional bow.  It should be simple, but humans have a way to screw-up a junk yard, so I don't expect any resolution.  I call mine recurves and longbows

Don't spend any of God's valuable time pondering terms.  I can tell you that is not time well spent.  Let someone else worry about such silly things while you are shooting stumps or chasing game.
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Post by: Cyrille on July 04, 2009, 02:01:00 PM
I agree completely with the third paragraph in the above post  remember the quote attributed to Alfred E. Newman of Mad Magazine--- "What, me worry?"
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Post by: Zog on July 04, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
The arrow is more important than the bow. As long as your arrows are trad, you're trad.  Be sure to get the carbon arrows that look like wood.  I got the wooden ones that look like carbon and they shot backwards.
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Post by: bayoulongbowman on July 04, 2009, 02:24:00 PM
Ditto to Guru...?????mmmmm   :saywhat:    :rolleyes:
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Post by: Covey on July 04, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
I shoot a recurve because I like to keep it simple! What George said purdy well sum's it up for me. I will admit that some of the compound bows these days sure do streatch the limits of anything that even remotely resembles a bow at all!! Just my 2 cents, Jason